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My posting privileges on vpFREE have been revoked by the Administrator.

#1

I received the following email from the Administrator on 11/21
(Monday) -

'From vpFREE Rules and Policies:

"7. Negative personal comments or personal attacks, as perceived by
the
Administrator and regardless of circumstances, aren't tolerated on
vpFREE. Violators are subject to having their posting privileges
revoked
for some appropriate period of time. If you disagree with someone,
be
objective, polite and impersonal in any reply. Don't belittle
anyone
or
what they have written or do any name-calling. Use FREEvpFREE
for any negative personal comment posts."

Your vpFREE posting privileges are revoked for 4 weeks, because your
latest vpFREE post (and earlier ones) violates the Rules and
Policies.

vpFREE Administrator'

I've requested that the Administrator post the email above on
vpFREE - this request has been refused.

I am currently aware of several other people who have had their
vpFREE posting privileges removed for 5 weeks and/or have been
placed on "moderated" status (their posts have to be read and
approved first by the Administrator - which I assume he'll be doing
to mine, should I choose to post on vpFREE in the future [I have no
plans to do so, other than perhaps an occasional question].
None of these acts of censorship have been made public by the
Administrator.

I believe that this vpFREE censorship should be made public - at the
very least if the person being censored requests such.

I have posted and lurked on many gaming forums, and have found
varying degrees of liberality and conservatism regarding posting
rules.
But I've never been barred from any before, and have never found one
with the extreme subjective censorship which the Administrator
imposes on this site.

A few years ago I used to read a forum which had the rule
"You cannot call someone a fool.
You can call someone's ideas foolish."

I believe this is a reasonable rule. It leads to interesting
discussions of ideas, without attacking the person.

My last post regarding the math of Dancer's penalty card system may
have made Dancer look foolish.
But Dancer's position is foolish.
I tried very hard to not violate the vpFREE rules.
There is only so much I could do.

If someone came into the forum and seriously posted that the Earth
is flat, discussing that person's ideas would make that person
appear foolish.
But that is because that person's ideas are foolish.
(By extension that person is therefore a fool - but the ideas are
being discussed).

The Administrator has accused me in an email of having an agenda.

My agenda is this - It is disturbing to me to see a worthless
gambling system being peddled (directly and indirectly).
I feel that worthless gambling systems should be exposed.
Bob Dancer is peddling a worthless gambling system.

#2

I wasn't going to post, but since "JW" did, I thought I would attempt
to give him some support. I guess my NPC against "Bob Dancer" was 25%
more negative than your post, since I received a 5 week ban. I'm not
really sure that math really holds since 1.25 x 0 = 0, but, I
digress. First of all I have greatly enjoyed reading "JW" posts, 100%
of those I have read, and since Harry's percentages are slipping, I
think "JW" has you beat 2:1, sorry Harry. Actually the posts on
Free^2 tend to be much more interesting then the vast majority of
the stuff on vpFree, however the postings tend to be few and far in
between.

How could someone read "The Bob and Dan Show", which seemingly went
on forever, and hopefully will not be syndicated, and not detect
negative personal comments, I guess I misinterpreted their posts. BTW
is "Dan" going through male menopause or something, he rarely posts
on vpFree, suddenly he gets in a tiff with Dancer, decides he likes
it rough, so he then goes after the Administrator on EV v ER?

"JW" I think your "Agenda" is to write interesting and thoughtful
posts, and since I am going to be very busy for the next four weeks,
I'm glad you won't be posting to vpFree in that time period, I need
the time for other activities.

I received the following email from the Administrator on 11/21
(Monday) -

'From vpFREE Rules and Policies:

"7. Negative personal comments or personal attacks, as perceived by
the
Administrator and regardless of circumstances, aren't tolerated on
vpFREE. Violators are subject to having their posting privileges
revoked
for some appropriate period of time. If you disagree with someone,
be
objective, polite and impersonal in any reply. Don't belittle
anyone
or
what they have written or do any name-calling. Use FREEvpFREE
for any negative personal comment posts."

Your vpFREE posting privileges are revoked for 4 weeks, because

your

latest vpFREE post (and earlier ones) violates the Rules and
Policies.

vpFREE Administrator'

I've requested that the Administrator post the email above on
vpFREE - this request has been refused.

I am currently aware of several other people who have had their
vpFREE posting privileges removed for 5 weeks and/or have been
placed on "moderated" status (their posts have to be read and
approved first by the Administrator - which I assume he'll be doing
to mine, should I choose to post on vpFREE in the future [I have no
plans to do so, other than perhaps an occasional question].
None of these acts of censorship have been made public by the
Administrator.

I believe that this vpFREE censorship should be made public - at

the

very least if the person being censored requests such.

I have posted and lurked on many gaming forums, and have found
varying degrees of liberality and conservatism regarding posting
rules.
But I've never been barred from any before, and have never found

one

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jw776655" <jw776655@y...> wrote:

with the extreme subjective censorship which the Administrator
imposes on this site.

A few years ago I used to read a forum which had the rule
"You cannot call someone a fool.
You can call someone's ideas foolish."

I believe this is a reasonable rule. It leads to interesting
discussions of ideas, without attacking the person.

My last post regarding the math of Dancer's penalty card system may
have made Dancer look foolish.
But Dancer's position is foolish.
I tried very hard to not violate the vpFREE rules.
There is only so much I could do.

If someone came into the forum and seriously posted that the Earth
is flat, discussing that person's ideas would make that person
appear foolish.
But that is because that person's ideas are foolish.
(By extension that person is therefore a fool - but the ideas are
being discussed).

The Administrator has accused me in an email of having an agenda.

My agenda is this - It is disturbing to me to see a worthless
gambling system being peddled (directly and indirectly).
I feel that worthless gambling systems should be exposed.
Bob Dancer is peddling a worthless gambling system.