Another thought-
You might want to check the San Diego and LA papers for bus deals that include hotel. I had a friend in LA who used to pay $25 oor $30 for the round-trip to Vegas, and get two hotel nights and some cashback. The Lauglin casinos advertise the same deals in the Phoenix papers.
Elaine
Quad Zilla wrote:<<<
desperately needed to crash. I went over to the slot club and they
said I needed a room first, then they could comp it. Further, they
said the hotel was probably sold out of rooms. This sucked.
Maybe, but it is predicatble. Next time, just reserve a
room in advance. You do not want to wind up in Vegas on a busy
weekend with no room. You will probably wind up spending close
to 100 bucks for a room or staying in a very seedy motel.
<<<
But I
tried anyways and luckily the hotel did have a room for $69 which I
was assured would be comped. I quickly went up to my room and
crashed. I couldn't sleep all that well though and awoke after about
4 hours and took off again.
First time in Vegas? Yeah, sleep is tough. You did well
to get 4 hours.
I woke up feeling very refreshed. I got my room for another night
and received a meal comp to the diner from the host. Played more
4700 dueces and lost more money. I then went over to the 4 queens to
get my 500 points so I could use my lva coupon to double them which
amounts to 1% cashback. The DB progressive was pretty good at $1300
and I started playing it. After being a couple hundred down pretty
quickly I was kicking myself for playing DB since I knew how
dangerously streaky it could be based on tons of winpoker
simulations and I didn't even know the game's strategy perfectly,
though I knew it reasonably well. This was my low point of the trip
and I was down about $500 overall of the $800 I brought with me.
With only an $800 trip stake, I think you should have
waited till the end of the trip for this one. Even deuces could
gobble up your bankroll if you ran bad.
<<<
The slot host made me wait 10 minutes for
him to arrive and then said that my daily average was too low (since
I put a little through the day before), that I was playing the wrong
games, and, I suspect, that I had won too much for him to give me a
measly food comp. Oh well, I was happy because I was now only $100
down for the trip.
This host is a moron. I bet you went somewhere else to
eat and you probably did not come back that day, if at all.
A new player who shows signs of giving action should be treated
well, even if the numbers are not quite right.
<<<
... Lady Luck ... "$50 in slot
play for $10". This sounded interesting so I tried it out. Turns out
it's a sucker bet. They put you on these special machines where you
can only get any money if you win one of the prescribed jackpots,
but "everyone's a winner" because they give you a souvenir gift for
playing. You could tell it was a sucker gimmick because they didn't
even take my coupon when I did the deal and seemed to have no qualms
if I wanted to do it over and over again. I did get a decent hand
held fan out of the deal but I felt a little dumb for being duped
into it.
Bummer dude. These have been around for years. I encounterd
one at the Riviera. I am proud to say I figured out the deal
before investing cash. Persoanlly, I think these things are a
bad business decision. Potential customers are not likely to
think much of your casino after getting snookered like this.
I finally went to the El Cortez and was very disappointed. THEY HAVE
TERRIBLE VIDEO POKER. VPHomepage says they have tons of 4700 full
pay everything, but none of it was jokers or fpdw.
Actually, they have a very good deuces wild game that has
an unusual payscale. I believe the deuces pay 2000 coins. You
probably saw the short pay on the other hands and thought it was
a bad game.
<<<
I may have missed
something, but I did a pretty thorough search of the whole casino.
There were plenty of 4000 jokers but they didn't hold coins, were
extremely slow, and only accrued points at 1/3rd the normal rate.
An all too common trick employed by some of the casinos
around town. That reduction leaves you with a whopping
0.06667% cashback rate. When that is all they give, I don't
see why they even bother.
<<<
The highlight of my time at the El Cortez was when a
crackhead started following me around and talking to me about
advantage play and how he too lives off of casinos.
Probably a VPFree member.
<<<
He did make some
interesting points about certain slots with bonuses (e.g. this game
where a cherry pie gets filled up) that build up but he could not
convince me that they actually became positive games at the higher
levels.
This guy was correct, but that means of making money at
the casinos is no longer lucrative, though the patient slot
vulture probably can still make 5-10 bucks a day this way.
I went back to the Plaza and made sure I had earned 2000 points for
the next day (it was now the early morning of Sunday) in case I was
gonna stay at the Plaza for a third day. I lost one or two hundred
at the 4700 dw. I got so fed up playing the coin fed machine at the
bar that I started playing the 4000 fpdw in a bank which was
actually very fast and bill fed.
Sometimes the best play is not the one with the best EV.
I am familiar with these machines and when I played there last,
I chose the fast one with a 4000 coin RF.
<<<
Raw oysters are nothing special it seems to me and just taste
like how the beach smells;
Nicely put. I agree.
<<<
the muscle was ok but then I inspected it a little closer
and was turned off by all of the distinguishable and
indistinguishable body parts together in that little clump.
Mmmmm. Body parts. (think Homer Simpson)
I headed off to the Hard Rock because they had some good promotional
stuff (50% more points, 6-pack coupons), good vp, and I wanted to
get room offers from them.
I think I may have seen you. I saw a fairly young man playing
quietly at the leftmost of the 3 machines on Monday afternoon.
I think you were there before I arrived and left maybe an hour later.
It was now 11pm and I had to get back to the Plaza to catch the
greyhound back to San Diego. Unfortunately, the hard rock shuttle I
was counting on bringing me back to the strip wasn't running anymore
and I didn't want to spend $20 on a cab so I walked all the way to
the strip and took the bus back downtown. It turns out the greyhound
bus wasn't leaving for a couple more hours so I decided to goof off
around the Plaza for a while. I had more than a little to drink and
sat down at a blackjack table and watched and had fun with the
players without actually gambling. It was a lot of fun and I became
pretty popular. Again, I think it had a lot to do with the novelty
of me being the young guy. It was the same dealer who I did the
matchplay coupons with when I first arrived and in the excitement I
asked her if I could use the coupons from my second cp booklet. She
said sure and I proceeded to eek out a final $50 from Vegas before
going back to my Greyhound bus.
Overall it was a very successful trip. I did better than I had
expected and left Vegas stuffed with hundred dollar bills. Don't
worry, I know that I cannot expect results this good on the average
trip. I have a spread sheet where I have recorded the results of
dozens of trip simulations using winpoker and I know I could lose a
significant amount in this sort of endeavor. My next trip will be
less hectic as I will have places to stay up front and I won't be
quite as green. I'll try to cut back on the alcohol consumption
which is so tempting since the waitresses constantly bombard you
with cheap alcohol; I also think I'll bring my own water in a bottle
to save on having to get free drinks for 25 cents a pop
<<<
I also think this activity would be greatly improved if I
had a good video poker buddy to keep me company and, very
importantly, to split the big hands between us to greatly
reduce the risk.
Lots of upside to partnerships. Also lots of
downside, since trusting the wrong person would be
a financial disaster.
Nice report
QZ
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