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Multstrike 5-play -- follow-up

Free ride percentages are available on the help screen of the machine you
are playing. For full pay games you can practice at ledgaming.com and the
pay table screen includes free ride frequencies. Payback supplied here does
include the free ride.

[Original Message]
From: <TedChee@aol.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 10/18/2004 3:55:02 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Multstrike 5-play -- follow-up

In a message dated 10/18/2004 3:21:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

<<<I don't have the statistical background to calculate MS multiplay
variance (it doesn't lend itself to the brute force method I've used
for single play MS). Perhaps Jazbo Burns will take it up at some
point. (He provides a comprehensive discussion of standard vp
multiplay variance and bankroll requirements at:
http://jazbo.com/videopoker/nplay.html>>>

I'm late to the game of MS so pardon me if this has been discussed

before.

Are the % returns for MS games calculated without free rides? (That would

be

my assumption.)

In order to calculate variance don't you need to know the frequency of

free

rides at each level?

Whether or not that's true, are these free ride statistics available
anywhere?

Having tried 5-play MS, I have to admit it is a lot of fun though it

doesn't

produce the volume of play/hr that I'd like. Wondering if casino theo is
generally higher, if so then it makes up for lower volume.

Also leery of the Piggy Banking bait-and-switch. When Piggy Banking first

came out, the slots were set loose so higher payouts were frequent.

Within a

couple of months, the chips were changed & triple 7s were just a fond

memory.

Afraid that free ride frequency may also be changed when MS reaches

popular

levels. So far in short tenure (all on 5-play MS) had many occasions

where

free rides occurred back-to-back which meant more 4X & 8X shots. So

after

getting hooked on early success with large jackpots, are there any

assurances ....?

···

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5-card lists the Free Ride values for the various Multi-Strike
paytables at http://videopoker.fws1.com/free-ride.htm

The paytables themselves are listed at:

http://videopoker.fws1.com/msp9-3-03.htm

These are for the original Multi-Strike program. The 5-Play
Multi-Strike program and the recently released version that supports
progressives and adds White Hot Aces and Super Double Double Bonus
Poker has a few modified values. These values were modified to
slightly reduce certain high-return tables to allow them to be used in
jurisdictions where they were over a regulated limit (for example, the
Deuces Wild Free Rides on the 25/15/9 Deuces Wild had a small Free
Ride adjustment to bring the Multi-Strike enhanced return down from
99.059% to 98.993%. This allows jurisdictions which have a 99% limit
to use this paytable in the new version.)

-Larry

Free ride percentages are available on the help screen of the

machine you

are playing. For full pay games you can practice at ledgaming.com

and the

pay table screen includes free ride frequencies. Payback supplied

here does

include the free ride.

> [Original Message]
> From: <TedChee@a...>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 10/18/2004 3:55:02 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Multstrike 5-play -- follow-up
>
>
> In a message dated 10/18/2004 3:21:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> <<<I don't have the statistical background to calculate MS multiplay
> variance (it doesn't lend itself to the brute force method I've used
> for single play MS). Perhaps Jazbo Burns will take it up at some
> point. (He provides a comprehensive discussion of standard vp
> multiplay variance and bankroll requirements at:
> http://jazbo.com/videopoker/nplay.html>>>
>
> I'm late to the game of MS so pardon me if this has been discussed
before.
>
> Are the % returns for MS games calculated without free rides?

(That would

be
> my assumption.)
>
> In order to calculate variance don't you need to know the frequency of
free
> rides at each level?
>
> Whether or not that's true, are these free ride statistics available
> anywhere?
>
> Having tried 5-play MS, I have to admit it is a lot of fun though it
doesn't
> produce the volume of play/hr that I'd like. Wondering if casino

theo is

> generally higher, if so then it makes up for lower volume.
>
> Also leery of the Piggy Banking bait-and-switch. When Piggy

Banking first

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...> wrote:

> came out, the slots were set loose so higher payouts were frequent.
Within a
> couple of months, the chips were changed & triple 7s were just a fond
memory.
>
> Afraid that free ride frequency may also be changed when MS reaches
popular
> levels. So far in short tenure (all on 5-play MS) had many occasions
where
> free rides occurred back-to-back which meant more 4X & 8X shots. So
after
> getting hooked on early success with large jackpots, are there any
assurances ....?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>