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Multi Strike with Super Times Pay

One thing I forgot in my last reply. I do not know if the free ride percentages have changes versus normal MS (Does anybody in this group know or have you checked a machine?) but without changes the STP feature would have a negative effect because the multiplier change in strategy hurts the normal MS adjustments for going to the next line.

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----- Original Message -----
From: peppermillionaire
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 8/11/2008 8:08:20 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Multi Strike with Super Times Pay

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "peppermillionaire"
<peppermillionaire@...> wrote:

Super Times Pay has no effect on return, though it does increase
volitility.

Just a quick post to apologize for the mistake on my part. STP does,
of course, impact return (positively) as the subsequent posters noted.
Brain fart on my part - what I was thinking is that STP doesn't
impact strategy.

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howard.w.stern wrote:

One thing I forgot in my last reply. I do not know if the free ride
percentages have changes versus normal MS (Does anybody in this group
know or have you checked a machine?) but without changes the STP
feature would have a negative effect because the multiplier change in
strategy hurts the normal MS adjustments for going to the next line.

The LED Gaming website provides an online opportunity to play the
game. Presumably the Free Ride percentages in the Help screen
accurately reflect those found in a casino.

http://www.ledgaming.com/MultiStrikeSuperTimesPayPoker/html/playthegame.shtml

I presume the "negative effect" you're referring to is the fact that
when a STP multiplier is active, strategy would shift away from
striving for advancement to higher levels and towards a strong win on
the current line (in other words, strategy equal to, or closer to,
standard optimal ER strategy for the current hand).

That would reduce the enhancement of the MS feature in the game.
Interestingly, the Free Ride frequencies shown (checking only the JB
game) in the online MS-STP are lower than normal.

If I understand correctly, the STP average multiplier exactly offsets
the 6th coin bet (i.e. averages 6/5, including those hands without a
multiplier). While I haven't worked it out precisely in my mind
(giving it 2 minutes of consideration), my guess is that the STP
mechanism still serves to enhance the aspect of standard MS that
serves to increase game ER over that of regular play of a vp paytable
(through related optimal strategy shifts that would increase ER).
Reducing the Free Ride frequencies in MS-STP, plus the reduction in ER
enhancement from the MS feature you refer to, would serve to cancel
out the STP-related enhancement and restore ER to something in the
arrange of MS. (But I'm winging it here.)

- Harry