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Multi Strike with Super Times Pay

Does anyone know what the return is on 9/7 Double Bonus with both
Multi Strike and Super Times Pay, where the super times pay is 2X - 5X?
I know Multi Strike bumps 9/7 to 99.29% but I can't find any info when
they are combined. Is the extra coin bet per line not worth it because
the multiplier only goes up to 5X? Thanks for any help.

Super Times Pay has no effect on return, though it does increase
volitility.
http://wizardofodds.com/videopoker/tables/super-times-pay.html

I don't know of any Super Times Pay machines that limit multipliers to
2X-5X.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mguthrie56" <guthrie56@...> wrote:

Does anyone know what the return is on 9/7 Double Bonus with both
Multi Strike and Super Times Pay, where the super times pay is 2X - 5X?
I know Multi Strike bumps 9/7 to 99.29% but I can't find any info when
they are combined. Is the extra coin bet per line not worth it because
the multiplier only goes up to 5X? Thanks for any help.

Its going to be about 99.37%. The combo of STP and MS are averaged, and it turns out the upswing is about the same as one
of these gimmicks alone. The Volatility is very high, and if I pretend its a $2 single line game, I can usually judge the right session bankroll ( i.e. 80 plays $10/hand = $800 starting session for the quarter 4 line game ).
One good way to reduce the steep bankroll requirements is to play only 3 lines ( 18 coins ) with very little penalty.
Hope this helps...Tom
PS - 9/7 STP-MS is very hard to find , where did you spot this ?

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----- Original Message -----

Does anyone know what the return is on 9/7 Double Bonus with both
Multi Strike and Super Times Pay, where the super times pay is 2X - 5X?
I know Multi Strike bumps 9/7 to 99.29% but I can't find any info when
they are combined. Is the extra coin bet per line not worth it because
the multiplier only goes up to 5X? Thanks for any help.

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99.306551%, but as a famous Vulcan once mused, it's just an
approximation. Enjoy the ride.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mguthrie56" <guthrie56@...> wrote:

Does anyone know what the return is on 9/7 Double Bonus with both
Multi Strike and Super Times Pay, where the super times pay is 2X - 5X?
I know Multi Strike bumps 9/7 to 99.29% but I can't find any info when
they are combined. Is the extra coin bet per line not worth it because
the multiplier only goes up to 5X? Thanks for any help.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "peppermillionaire"
<peppermillionaire@...> wrote:

Super Times Pay has no effect on return, though it does increase
volitility.

Just a quick post to apologize for the mistake on my part. STP does,
of course, impact return (positively) as the subsequent posters noted.
Brain fart on my part - what I was thinking is that STP doesn't
impact strategy.

peppermillionaire wrote:

Just a quick post to apologize for the mistake on my part. STP does,
of course, impact return (positively) as the subsequent posters noted.
Brain fart on my part - what I was thinking is that STP doesn't
impact strategy.

No apologies needed ... we all skip an beta-wave every now and then.

But, the odd thing is that STP does impact MS strategy -- that is,
optimal MS-STP strategy differs from optimal MS strategy. (This was
alluded to in a previous thread awhile back.)

- H.