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#1

I am new to VP and this board. If this question belongs on a
different board---please advise.

I was wondering if there is an advantage of playing multi-hand VP
over a similar number of hands on single play machine?

I understand the obvious volatility of multiple hands. A $.25 play
on 10 hand is a $12.50 bet, but know different than playing 10
single hands in a row. However, there seems to be an advantage to
have a winning hand possibly multiplied or improved upon when a good
hand is dealt. If you can handle the volatility and use good money
management, the extra coins for stong hands should more than make
up for hands the many times 10 hands pays lower 0,5,10,15,20, etc.
coins. What am I missing?

It also seems to allow you to play more hands in a shorter amount
of time and isn't that an advatage? Also, isn't an advatage to help
one achieve more perfect play since if you make the right decision
it will be repeated 9 more times for sure.

#2

futrend wrote:

I was wondering if there is an advantage of playing multi-hand VP
over a similar number of hands on single play machine?

I understand the obvious volatility of multiple hands. A $.25 play
on 10 hand is a $12.50 bet, but know different than playing 10
single hands in a row. However, there seems to be an advantage to
have a winning hand possibly multiplied or improved upon when a good
hand is dealt. If you can handle the volatility and use good money
management, the extra coins for stong hands should more than make
up for hands the many times 10 hands pays lower 0,5,10,15,20, etc.
coins. What am I missing?

Just the downside that if you have an extended run of initial bad
hands, you stand to lose considerably more in multiplay than single
play. These two facts are the very evidence of the higher volatility
of multiplay. In either case, for a given amount of coin-in, the ER
is exactly the same for the same game and paytable.

It also seems to allow you to play more hands in a shorter amount
of time and isn't that an advatage?

Absolutely, in order to put through a comparable amount of coin-in in
the same amount of time playing single line, it's necessary to move up
in denomination -- which increases volatility even further over
multiplay (variance would perhaps be the better descriptor to use).

Also, isn't an advatage to help one achieve more perfect play since
if you make the right decision it will be repeated 9 more times for
sure.

Conversely, if my fingers slip on the buttons and I really muff a
10-play hold (like inadvertently break a trip), I tend to kick myself
10 times harder than in single play :wink: ...

- H.

#3

This website gets into the nitty gritty. Don't fear the math:

http://www.jazbo.com/videopoker/nplay.html

VPFree frontpage explains why people play multi-hands:
[EV] = [ER] x coin-in

Variance increases with the number of hands. Bankroll requirements
go up with variance. Amount you can bet for the same risk of ruin
goes down with variance. But the variance for multi-hand VP compared
to playing an equivalent number of single hands is less.

Here's my question. Can somebody post an equation for bankroll in
terms of RoR, edge, variance, betsize?

Thanks, NK

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:

I am new to VP and this board. If this question belongs on a
different board---please advise.

I was wondering if there is an advantage of playing multi-hand VP
over a similar number of hands on single play machine?

#4

Bankroll (11%ror) = VARIANCE/(ER-1) bets
double it for 1% ror
multiplay variance:
jacks: 2 + 18/N
deuces: 3 + 23/N
double bonus: 3 + 25/N

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nanking3030" <nanking3030@y...> wrote:

Here's my question. Can somebody post an equation for bankroll in
terms of RoR, edge, variance, betsize?