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Multi Game, Multi Denomination.

If you're looking for a change, and a chance to win higher than your usual
bracket, "Double Pay" might be an option. I haven't checked on the availability
(or not) of these machines in various places.

It's two games in one: a stud game, and a regular one. If you're playing
triple play, you've got to bet 30 at a time to have full coin in. On the first
deal, you get points for whatever is dealt to you on each line. These points are
much higher than in the second game-- 60,000 credits for a royal flush. So if
you're dealt a royal while playing triple-play for quarters, you can get
$15K, $18 K if it's on the bottom line.

I find this game quite playable. It's psychologically very seductive because
you don't get many hands with absolutely nothing. And it has the appeal that
you could hit something much bigger than normal.

I have now read so many replies to Multi Game, Multi Denomination,
that if I were to reply to everything I would have to spend the whole
night writing.

Before I comment on your message, let me mention in passing that I
would love to find a "get rich quick VP scheme", but I'm not really
counting on one. Maximizing your return long term playing positive
machines with the proper strategy and bankroll is the only advice I
would give a novice without feeling guilty, all the time stressing
that this way he maximizes his probability of success, but no more. I
was using in my message the word "system" in the sense of betting
systems at craps, roulette, etc. They never change the odds, but they
do change the way the game pays. Some betting systems produce lots of
small losses and a few big wins, other betting systems do the
opposite, they all return the same in the long term since the game is
the same. When 'chasing the quad' in multi game and/or multi
denomination games happens to work, one does win a lot more money,
when it does not one loses a little bit more than otherwise. In the
long term, the return will be that of the game you are playing. I
know quads are never 'due' but often they do surprisingly appear
every 430 games, give or take a few dozens and these situations I
have experienced more in older machines. Since none of this is
predictable, you will fail sometimes trying to exploit it. In the
long term procedures like this do not make you richer than just
playing straight, in the short term they might produce fun week ends.
By the way, I'm not chasing losses. If any of the schemes I come up
with leads to disaster, I drop it very quickly. Though it would be
fun to do, I do not live on gambling, nor do I ever play with "bread
and butter" money. I don't chase losses, I chase rainbows.

Yes, I have tried double pay. Must be a year or more ago I first
encountered these machines at Caesars. There is a Bob Dancer article
about them that discusses the various paytables. Here is a link to
the Bob Dancer article that appeared in Strictly Slots,

http://www.igtproducts.com/IGTproducts/GameReview/doublepaypoker.htm

I have not seen the really good paytables mentioned in the article. I
can see how playing Triple Double Bonus in Double Pay Poker could be
extremely exciting. It is good, though, to know the numbers and the
volatility in order not to remain at one such machine expecting it to
hit. It could be the road to the poor house. On visits to Las Vegas I
would set aside a smaller portion of my bankroll -not very
methodically, but roughly- to fun machines, and this would be one of
them.

There is another game very similar to Double Pay Poker, but a little
more complex. It is called 3-Way Action Poker, and the Palms offers
it in dimes, Caesars in quarters. You are dealt five cards and there
is a paytable for that. Then you draw whatever cards you want, and
there is another paytable for that. So far, it is exactly as Double
Pay Poker, except that 3-Way Action Poker does not come in the multi
play frame, I have only seen it single line. Then, after the second
draw, you get two cards more to make a 7-card stud hand, and it has
its own paytable, the third on this game. I find this game is a lot
of fun, though I have yet to get a Royal in it. I have no idea what
the different paytables are, and I have not seen an article about the
game, Bob Dancer's or anyone else's. As a matter of fact, I have no
idea what the return or volatility of the game is. The game takes 30
coins maximum, which makes it $3 a play in dimes. The machines at
Palms can also be played with nickels, and that would be $1.50 at
maximum coin. Double Pay I guess is safer, you can figure out the
strategy there. I have absolutely no idea what the strategy is in 3-
Way Action, but it is fun to 'play it by ear' and 'figure it while
playing'. I'm amazed I have not done too horribly on these machines.

I like also another suggestion in another message, about figuring a
parlay strategy for those 100 coin machines at TI. I have not bee
there in a long time, but I think they are not full pay DB and DDB
machines, as I remember. You can play a sort of 'quad due' strategy
on these, as stated, without changing the return of the game you are
playing at all, but, if it works, increasing your week end holdings
immensely.

Happy gambling.

E

If you're looking for a change, and a chance to win higher than

your usual

bracket, "Double Pay" might be an option. I haven't checked on the

availability

(or not) of these machines in various places.

It's two games in one: a stud game, and a regular one. If you're

playing

triple play, you've got to bet 30 at a time to have full coin in.

On the first

deal, you get points for whatever is dealt to you on each line.

These points are

much higher than in the second game-- 60,000 credits for a royal

flush. So if

you're dealt a royal while playing triple-play for quarters, you

can get

$15K, $18 K if it's on the bottom line.

I find this game quite playable. It's psychologically very

seductive because

you don't get many hands with absolutely nothing. And it has the

appeal that

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you could hit something much bigger than normal.