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Multi Game, Multi Denomination.

#1

Ever to dispel tedium one searches for amusements and multi game
and/or multi denomination machines can provide their own particular
ways of distraction. They might even suggest strategies. I'm talking
here about gambling strategies, and I wonder what anyone thinks of
them, if anything.

Let us first take a multi game machine as an example. You would play
the highest payback game in it, of course, if you are mindful of your
purse. Assume, for example, you are playing triple play 10/7 DB and
you are counting the hands you are playing. This works too if you
just estimate the hands you have played from your known speed of
play, or from the points shown on the card reader. You have not
gotten a quad for four or five hundred games. You think a quad is
due. Sometimes the appear when "due", sometimes they do not. You
decide to take a chance, and switch to a lower return game, such as
9/6 DDB, for the chance the quad that is "due" and might materialize,
is one of those high paying ones in that game. Does this work? I find
sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't.

The example involving a multi denomination machine is similar. Here,
your bankroll tells you to play quarters. If you are doing well, and
you have ample credits, and, say, a quad has not appeared in well
over 400 hands, is it not a good gamble to switch to the higher
denomination -you don't have to change games in this machine- so as
to catch a higher paying quad?

Any other ideas? Are these good, bad or indifferent ideas? I really
don't know, since I don't know enough about the RNG in these multi
game and multi denomination machines. I don't even know if the
previous sentence makes sense.

E

#2

mubowor wrote:

Any other ideas? Are these good, bad or indifferent ideas?

Dude, you're working a little too hard at this and stretching a little
too far.

Sound basic strategy is what's called for - be it single play,
multi-play, spinpoker, or a trip to the laundromat to watch the
clothes spin after you've exhauasted your stake. Strategy is a
function of game paytable, not the game format ("specialty" games such
as Multistrike and Ten/Seven excluded).

Searching for special ways in which to play a machine tends to be an
indication of someone playing above their bankroll and uncomfortable
with a loss streak that isn't all that out of the ordinary.

- Harry

#3

There is nothing wrong with "taking a shot" and see what happens. If you
read Bob Dancers book, his fame and fortune are due mainly to playing high
stakes VP with about 1/50 th of the Kelly bankroll needed, and got
"over-royal'ed" at the right time. In other words - IMHO the key ingredient
to his success was dumb luck and balls of steel. Talk about "taking a shot"
I'd recommend finding a 5C 10 play triple double bonus poker machine. When
these machines get hot they burn. On my last trip to Vegas, over at the
Casino Royal, I put a Franklin into one, and cashed out for $1000 ( no , I
did not hit a royal on any line either ! ). Other great machines are the
1-100 coin ones found especially at Treasure Island - where you can develop
a strategy to parlay your bet and then - who knows - hit those 4 aces with
100 coins. Now purists may tell you, "you should think long term - all the
time - or not play at all." That's utter nonsense - keep their view point in
mind yes, but learn to play at least 50 games with perfect strategy ( or
carry around a booklet like I do ), and take that occasional shot - and have
fun!
One other game to take a shot with - Wheel of fortune. I will play this if I
can get odds of 2,000,000 - 1 on the top prize.

best wishes...Tom

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----- Original Message -----
From: "mubowor" <erchalb@cantv.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:33 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Multi Game, Multi Denomination.

Ever to dispel tedium one searches for amusements and multi game
and/or multi denomination machines can provide their own particular
ways of distraction. They might even suggest strategies. I'm talking
here about gambling strategies, and I wonder what anyone thinks of
them, if anything.

Let us first take a multi game machine as an example. You would play
the highest payback game in it, of course, if you are mindful of your
purse. Assume, for example, you are playing triple play 10/7 DB and
you are counting the hands you are playing. This works too if you
just estimate the hands you have played from your known speed of
play, or from the points shown on the card reader. You have not
gotten a quad for four or five hundred games. You think a quad is
due. Sometimes the appear when "due", sometimes they do not. You
decide to take a chance, and switch to a lower return game, such as
9/6 DDB, for the chance the quad that is "due" and might materialize,
is one of those high paying ones in that game. Does this work? I find
sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't.

The example involving a multi denomination machine is similar. Here,
your bankroll tells you to play quarters. If you are doing well, and
you have ample credits, and, say, a quad has not appeared in well
over 400 hands, is it not a good gamble to switch to the higher
denomination -you don't have to change games in this machine- so as
to catch a higher paying quad?

Any other ideas? Are these good, bad or indifferent ideas? I really
don't know, since I don't know enough about the RNG in these multi
game and multi denomination machines. I don't even know if the
previous sentence makes sense.

E

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#4

Quads are never "due". Anything that involves chasing is no strategy

Ever to dispel tedium one searches for amusements and multi game
and/or multi denomination machines can provide their own particular
ways of distraction. They might even suggest strategies. I'm

talking

here about gambling strategies, and I wonder what anyone thinks of
them, if anything.

Let us first take a multi game machine as an example. You would

play

the highest payback game in it, of course, if you are mindful of

your

purse. Assume, for example, you are playing triple play 10/7 DB and
you are counting the hands you are playing. This works too if you
just estimate the hands you have played from your known speed of
play, or from the points shown on the card reader. You have not
gotten a quad for four or five hundred games. You think a quad is
due. Sometimes the appear when "due", sometimes they do not. You
decide to take a chance, and switch to a lower return game, such as
9/6 DDB, for the chance the quad that is "due" and might

materialize,

is one of those high paying ones in that game. Does this work? I

find

sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't.

The example involving a multi denomination machine is similar.

Here,

your bankroll tells you to play quarters. If you are doing well,

and

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at all. If you don't mind taking a shot & losing - fine. That is not a strategy but rather a leisure time choice & will generally cost like 1. Thinking too much as dangerous as not thinking at all. --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mubowor" <erchalb@c...> wrote:

you have ample credits, and, say, a quad has not appeared in well
over 400 hands, is it not a good gamble to switch to the higher
denomination -you don't have to change games in this machine- so as
to catch a higher paying quad?

Any other ideas? Are these good, bad or indifferent ideas? I really
don't know, since I don't know enough about the RNG in these multi
game and multi denomination machines. I don't even know if the
previous sentence makes sense.

E

#5

Michael Boutot wrote:

Thinking too much is as dangerous as not thinking at all.

Especially if ... well-l-l-l ... better keep that one to myself. :slight_smile:

- H.

#6

One other game to take a shot with - Wheel of fortune. I will play

this if I

can get odds of 2,000,000 - 1 on the top prize.

Or every trip with the monthly WOF spin bonuses at Casino Royale!!

Pete

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