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MS -Ancedotal evidence on slant top PE vs upright

I'm referring to JOB and not pick-em cycles. I've never hit 6 royals in a single cycle. However, I have hit 3 royals in a weekend trip to A/C and have had many trips to Vegas where I hit two royals.

I accept the earlier response which stated that there is a 1% percent chance of hitting only 3 royals in 10 cycles. Someone has to be in that lower 1% (:

Joel

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From: "haaljo" <haaljo@yahoo.com>

If you are talking Pickem then you have played a lot of hands.
The cycle is so long as I remember every 240K hands.

I am not sure 3 royals in 10 cycles raises eyebrows. Just bad luck.
Ever get 6 Royals in one 9/6 JB cycle? We have. Not at MS however.
Its been 1 PE Royal in 4 cycles at Mohegan Sun. That was 5 years ago.
haaljo in Boston

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, joel0457@... wrote:
>
> I've been under royaled every year at MS
> 2006 - 3+ cycles and 0 royals
> 2005 - 3+ cycles and 2 royals
> 2004 - 2+ cycles and 1 royal
> 2003 - 1+ cycle and 0 royals
>
> So, in (4) years and 10+ cycles , I've gotten 3 royals. I'd like
to know what the odds are of playing 10 cycles and getting (3)
royals.
>
>
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> From: "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...>
> > ---The last two times I was there I saw several 4OAK.I don't play
> > pickum much so I find the way the cards are dealt annoying. I
play
> > the JOB bartops 99% of the time. Last week when I hit my royals,
> > someone hit a 22,500 royal. I am over royaled there and Dori has
yet
> > to hit one. Just the way VP goes.
> > Mel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo" <haaljo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Jack,
> > > That is good news. I told my "conspiracy theorist" wife and she
> > said
> > > her player's card is flagged and machine changes software.
Always
> > > some reason to suspect but your observations are powerful.
> > > haaljo in Boston
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "jack_bravo"
<jb1805@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo" <haaljo@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Since the changes to the machines with the middle card dealt
> > first,
> > > > 2) Slanttops, machines busy, Nobody getting quads and
certainly
> > no
> > > > SF.
> > > >
> > > > =================================
> > > >
> > > > I find the middle deal a little annoying but, I'm sure that I
> > will
> > > > get used to it soon.
> > > >
> > > > I played on the slant tops in the old poker room this past
> > weekend.
> > > > I couldn't get 4 of a kind to save my life. The machine kept
> > > > taunting me with 4 to a royal or 4 to a straight flush. What
a
> > > > tease! The previous weekend, I hit 2 4oak on the 3rd machine
> > > > (nearest the car).
> > > >
> > > > This past weekend I did see several people have hand pays.
One
> > > > woman, in particular, who was playing on the 2nd machine
(nearest
> > > > the car) hit 4 4oak AND a straight flush. All of this
occurred
> > > > within 5 hours! One man hit 4oak twice but he was only
playing 1
> > > > coin. This same man hit 4oak twice playing 1 coin the
previous
> > > > weekend as well.
> > > >
> > > > I have seen a few of the AP players playing PE but have also
> > > noticed
> > > > some of them at the new bartop playing 9/6 JoB.
> > > >
> > > > I won't be able to pick up my toaster this weekend as I'll be
in
> > AC
> > > > visiting Harrah's. I have some birthday cash to pick up.
> > Hopefully,
> > > > I'll have some good wins to report back.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck, royals and 4oak to all.
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>

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O.K. Joel,
ROYALS are the good times. The Big Wins. My Wife has also won $60K in
tournaments over her 10 year VP gambling. Your three royals in one
weekend are the good times. Even with (now $8K) this year's MS loss,
we are pretty much breakeven at this casino. One PE Royal and a few
quads would make it all better!
For the good times.
haaljo in Boston

I'm referring to JOB and not pick-em cycles. I've never hit 6

royals in a single cycle. However, I have hit 3 royals in a weekend
trip to A/C and have had many trips to Vegas where I hit two royals.

I accept the earlier response which stated that there is a 1%

percent chance of hitting only 3 royals in 10 cycles. Someone has to
be in that lower 1% (:

Joel

From: "haaljo" <haaljo@...>
> If you are talking Pickem then you have played a lot of hands.
> The cycle is so long as I remember every 240K hands.
>
> I am not sure 3 royals in 10 cycles raises eyebrows. Just bad

luck.

> Ever get 6 Royals in one 9/6 JB cycle? We have. Not at MS however.
> Its been 1 PE Royal in 4 cycles at Mohegan Sun. That was 5 years

ago.

> haaljo in Boston
>
>
> >
> > I've been under royaled every year at MS
> > 2006 - 3+ cycles and 0 royals
> > 2005 - 3+ cycles and 2 royals
> > 2004 - 2+ cycles and 1 royal
> > 2003 - 1+ cycle and 0 royals
> >
> > So, in (4) years and 10+ cycles , I've gotten 3 royals. I'd

like

> to know what the odds are of playing 10 cycles and getting (3)
> royals.
> >
> >
> > From: "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@>
> > > ---The last two times I was there I saw several 4OAK.I don't

play

> > > pickum much so I find the way the cards are dealt annoying. I
> play
> > > the JOB bartops 99% of the time. Last week when I hit my

royals,

> > > someone hit a 22,500 royal. I am over royaled there and Dori

has

> yet
> > > to hit one. Just the way VP goes.
> > > Mel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo" <haaljo@>

wrote:

> > > >
> > > > Thanks Jack,
> > > > That is good news. I told my "conspiracy theorist" wife and

she

> > > said
> > > > her player's card is flagged and machine changes software.
> Always
> > > > some reason to suspect but your observations are powerful.
> > > > haaljo in Boston
> > > >
> > > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "jack_bravo"
> <jb1805@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo"

<haaljo@>

> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > Since the changes to the machines with the middle card

dealt

> > > first,
> > > > > 2) Slanttops, machines busy, Nobody getting quads and
> certainly
> > > no
> > > > > SF.
> > > > >
> > > > > =================================
> > > > >
> > > > > I find the middle deal a little annoying but, I'm sure

that I

> > > will
> > > > > get used to it soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > I played on the slant tops in the old poker room this

past

> > > weekend.
> > > > > I couldn't get 4 of a kind to save my life. The machine

kept

> > > > > taunting me with 4 to a royal or 4 to a straight flush.

What

> a
> > > > > tease! The previous weekend, I hit 2 4oak on the 3rd

machine

> > > > > (nearest the car).
> > > > >
> > > > > This past weekend I did see several people have hand

pays.

> One
> > > > > woman, in particular, who was playing on the 2nd machine
> (nearest
> > > > > the car) hit 4 4oak AND a straight flush. All of this
> occurred
> > > > > within 5 hours! One man hit 4oak twice but he was only
> playing 1
> > > > > coin. This same man hit 4oak twice playing 1 coin the
> previous
> > > > > weekend as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen a few of the AP players playing PE but have

also

> > > > noticed
> > > > > some of them at the new bartop playing 9/6 JoB.
> > > > >
> > > > > I won't be able to pick up my toaster this weekend as

I'll be

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, joel0457@... wrote:

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> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, joel0457@ wrote:
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> in
> > > AC
> > > > > visiting Harrah's. I have some birthday cash to pick up.
> > > Hopefully,
> > > > > I'll have some good wins to report back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck, royals and 4oak to all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jack
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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