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mroejacks

#1

On 12 SEP, I listed the rules violations in your message #85793:

... "idiotic", "This analogy is ridiculous at best" and "Not
surprising people think you're ego is tad bit too large".

You responded to my listing of your rules violations by talking
about your intent, the nature of the post you were responding to,
my deficiencies as a monitor, a political analogy, the proper use
of the English language, an assertion that a generalization by
you was "pure fact", the importance of communicating properly and
other comments that were irrelevant to whether or not you
violated the vpFREE rules.

The use of these diversionary tactics has been your normal
response to my direct questions and comments. You have routinely
avoided directly addressing the issues, with assertions that I'm
vindictive, I'm retaliatory, I'm derelict in my duties, I should
be replaced, I don't treat members equally, I should consider a
poster's intent, I'm too secretive, I'm incompetent, I should
have better interpersonal skills, I should treat people as
adults, that you don't like the rules, that there should be
better rules and procedures, that you always address the message,
that your responses are accurate, that other people agree with
you, etc., etc.. All of these assertions are irrelevant when
deciding if you violated vpFREE's posting rules.

Your message #85793 either violated the vpFREE posting rules or
it didn't, and this is determined by a simple examination of your
post relative to the applicable vpFREE rule. None of your
diversionary comments are relevant.

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The applicable rule is Posting Guideline #9a:

"Negative personal comments or personal attacks, as perceived by
the Administrator and regardless of circumstances, aren't
tolerated on vpFREE. When making or responding to a negative
post, be objective, factual, polite and impersonal. You can
assert, deny, disagree, correct or explain, but no name-calling
and don't make belittling or sarcastic remarks about the writer
or their message."

Here's the offending paragraph from your post:

"Bob, you were doing fine until this idiotic last paragraph. This
analogy is ridiculous at best. Just because .25 plays are more
prevalent does change the approach a good VP player takes. It
makes no difference what denom one is playing since the math is
EXACTLY the same. Not surprising people think you're ego is tad
bit too large."

It should be obvious that there are three clear violations in
this paragraph:

1. You belittled his last paragraph by calling it "idiotic".

2. You belittled his analogy as "ridiculous at best".

3. "you're ego is tad bit too large" was a negative personal
comment.

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I initiated the "mroejacks" thread here on FREEvpFREE to rebut
the inaccurate, irresponsible allegations about me and vpFREE
that you posted on the Winpoker forum. That has been done and
unless a response from you unequivocally admits that your post
violated vpFREE rules, I probably have nothing more to say in
this thread, and you will revert to your previous status on all
vpFREE forums.

vpFREE Administrator

#2

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpFREE Administrator <vp_free@...>
wrote:

On 12 SEP, I listed the rules violations in your message #85793:

> ... "idiotic", "This analogy is ridiculous at best" and "Not
> surprising people think you're ego is tad bit too large".

You responded to my listing of your rules violations by talking
about your intent, the nature of the post you were responding to,
my deficiencies as a monitor, a political analogy, the proper use
of the English language, an assertion that a generalization by
you was "pure fact", the importance of communicating properly and
other comments that were irrelevant to whether or not you
violated the vpFREE rules.

The use of these diversionary tactics has been your normal
response to my direct questions and comments. You have routinely
avoided directly addressing the issues, with assertions that I'm
vindictive, I'm retaliatory, I'm derelict in my duties, I should
be replaced, I don't treat members equally, I should consider a
poster's intent, I'm too secretive, I'm incompetent, I should
have better interpersonal skills, I should treat people as
adults, that you don't like the rules, that there should be
better rules and procedures, that you always address the message,
that your responses are accurate, that other people agree with
you, etc., etc.. All of these assertions are irrelevant when
deciding if you violated vpFREE's posting rules.

Your message #85793 either violated the vpFREE posting rules or
it didn't, and this is determined by a simple examination of your
post relative to the applicable vpFREE rule. None of your
diversionary comments are relevant.

Once again you attempt to make the world black and white. If can't
understand the simple concept of "subjective interpretation" then it
will be impossible for you to communicate in the world around you. A
sad situation. A very sad situation for someone who accepts the task
of moderation.

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The applicable rule is Posting Guideline #9a:

"Negative personal comments or personal attacks, as perceived by
the Administrator and regardless of circumstances, aren't
tolerated on vpFREE. When making or responding to a negative
post, be objective, factual, polite and impersonal. You can
assert, deny, disagree, correct or explain, but no name-calling
and don't make belittling or sarcastic remarks about the writer
or their message."

Here's the offending paragraph from your post:

"Bob, you were doing fine until this idiotic last paragraph. This
analogy is ridiculous at best. Just because .25 plays are more
prevalent does change the approach a good VP player takes. It
makes no difference what denom one is playing since the math is
EXACTLY the same. Not surprising people think you're ego is tad
bit too large."

It should be obvious that there are three clear violations in
this paragraph:

1. You belittled his last paragraph by calling it "idiotic".

2. You belittled his analogy as "ridiculous at best".

Show me where it says in any dictionary that these terms
are "belittling". Guess what you will never see that. That is YOUR
subjective interpretation. You are so lost in your own mind that you
can see the great variability in the world around you.

3. "you're ego is tad bit too large" was a negative personal
comment.

That is not what I said. Are you really going to create lies in your
defense??? Please post the ENTIRE SENTENCE. What I said was
OTHER people have said that. That is an ABSOLUTE FACT. If you can't
understand the difference between someone saying "I think" and
someone saying "others have said", then you are too far gone for any
help.

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I initiated the "mroejacks" thread here on FREEvpFREE to rebut
the inaccurate, irresponsible allegations about me and vpFREE
that you posted on the Winpoker forum. That has been done and
unless a response from you unequivocally admits that your post
violated vpFREE rules, I probably have nothing more to say in
this thread, and you will revert to your previous status on all
vpFREE forums.

This is about as humorous as it gets. You have refuted nothing. You
have proved exactly what I stated on winpoker. You even changed the
enitre meaning of the sentence I used thus PROVING my claim that you
will lie about this topic. Are you totally without honor?

Dick

#3

Dick:

It takes a person at least five years of their life to learn how to
read and write.

I notice posts from you from at least five years ago.

If we combine these two facts, we can conclude you are over ten years old.

Have you considered acting like it?

#4

rgmustain wrote:

> 3. "you're ego is tad bit too large" was a negative personal
> comment.

That is not what I said. Are you really going to create lies in
your defense??? Please post the ENTIRE SENTENCE. What I
said was OTHER people have said that. That is an ABSOLUTE FACT. If
you can't understand the difference between someone saying "I
think" and someone saying "others have said", then you are too far
gone for any help.

I didn't expect to post again in this thread. But this snippet got me
to thinking ...

So, I get it -- the idea is that you're willing to buy on to the
guideline that it's not ok to say, "Bob, your ego is a tad bit too
large". But since citing that someone else made the statement is a
fact (provided that someone else did at some point in time), then it's
a great way to slide it in "factually".

Dick, I gotta ask you ... why be so meally-mouthed? I'm going to
infer that another statement of fact by you would be, "I think your
ego is a tad bit too large, Bob". That's an opinion and certainly a
fact. Of course, that doesn't have the punch of "people think you're
ego is ..." -- lacking a suggestion that the sentiment may be widely held.

#5

Admin wrote: Here's the offending paragraph from your post

"Bob, you were doing fine until this idiotic last paragraph. The
analogy is ridiculous at best. Just because .25 plays are more
prevalent does change the approach a good VP player takes. Itmakes
no difference what denom one is playing since the math is
EXACTLY the same. Not surprising people think you're ego is tad
bit too large."

It should be obvious that there are three clear violations in
this paragraph:

1. You belittled his last paragraph by calling it "idiotic".

2. You belittled his analogy as "ridiculous at best".

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote

Show me where it says in any dictionary that these terms
are "belittling". Guess what you will never see that. That is YOUR
subjective interpretation. You are so lost in your own mind that you
can see the great variability in the world around you.

Though, much like Kingfish, I have "no dog in this fight", I do have,
right next to my desk, a copy Of "Webster's Unabridged Dictionary Of
The English Language", revised, updated and printed in 2001, and
containing over 300,000 entries.

IMO, the definitions printed there-in, support the Administrator's
position.

Belittle: To regard or portray as less important or impressive than
appearances indicate; to depreciate; to disbarage.
Syn: minimize, decry, deprecate, deride, scorn, dismiss.

Idiotic: Pertaining to or characteristic of an idiot; senselessly
foolish or stupid, ignorant.
Syn: half-witted, imbecilic, fatous, inane, asinine.

Ridiculous: Causing or worthy of ridicule or derision; adsurd;
preposterous; laughable.
Syn: Nonsensical, ludicrous, funny, droll, comical, farcical.

Please draw your own conclusions.
~Babe~

#6

Guys, this discussion about littly dicky is amusing and slightly
entertaining, but when in the world are you folks gonna realize the
simplicity of what he does and why he does it?

His history with video poker adequately defines his philosophy &
attitude here and on virtually every forum he can join and disrupt.
Once the game hopelessly roped him in, his mounting losses exacerbated
by a deep compulsion to play required him to be a low-stakes player
since both he and his wife became instant addicts and slaves to the
machines. Dissatisfied to be stuck in Minnesota and relegated to become
believers in Indian gaming fairness in order to get their
continuous "fix" at the machines, those cold and dangerous winter trips
back & forth and back & forth to the casinos didn't do much for his
insatiable habit for playing.

Thus, he and the missus made the same mistake all addicts make and
moved to LV into a cheap duplex in order to be closer to the machines
when the snow was falling. As such, he became increasingly tuned into
and obsessed about the exploits of Bob Dancer and his high level play,
as well as with his notariety. At the same time, he can't stomach my
ability to win consistently over the years on mainly -EV machines with
a strategy he just can't figure out and doesn't WANT to figure out.

In short, you're dealing with a jealous fanatic who obviously has
failed at the game even though he shows a keen understanding of
everything about it. Come to think of it, that's exactly what happened
to me in the early '90's, however, instead of whining my way through
and picking fights with anyone that I might have thought knew more than
I did at the time, I chose to do something positive about it and waited
until I was successful before levying attacks whenever and wherever
they were deserved. Dick will never get to that point, because as you
can plainly see, he's mired in a never-ending tortuous regimen of
needing the last word and never wanting to be seen as being wrong or
misleading. He actually craves attention and wants to be admired for
his input, yet he consistently contradicts himself by what I can only
describe as a self-serving twisted, sissified and spin-
oriented/argumentative disagreement with anyone he perceives as having
power in the video poker industry. In short, he just can't help himself.

Dick:
It takes a person at least five years of their life to learn how to
read and write.
I notice posts from you from at least five years ago.
If we combine these two facts, we can conclude you are over ten years

old.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "King Fish" <vpkingfish@...> wrote:

Have you considered acting like it?

#7

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@...>
wrote:

He actually craves attention and wants to be admired for
his input, yet he consistently contradicts himself by what I can only
describe as a self-serving twisted, sissified and spin-
oriented/argumentative disagreement with anyone he perceives as

having

power in the video poker industry.

LOL ... this statement describes the poster to a "T" but he's too self-
absorbed to realize it.

Unconscious negative self-projection is a hallmark of malignant
narcissism.

In short, he just can't help himself.

He even closes with a bit of accurate self-analysis to explain his bad
behavior.

#8

Man, it's gotta be given chokers like you inordinately painful
abdominal cramps to watch your hero little dickey go down in flames
like this, in front of everyone he always tried to impress with his
spin-orientred geeky input and outright lies. And then to have to sit
there and watch as I pour sea salt into his AND YOUR wounds....does
it ever get any better than this?? What was it he was addicted to
saying?---ROTFLMAO!!

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@>
wrote:

> He actually craves attention and wants to be admired for
> his input, yet he consistently contradicts himself by what I can

only

> describe as a self-serving twisted, sissified and spin-
> oriented/argumentative disagreement with anyone he perceives as
having
> power in the video poker industry.

LOL ... this statement describes the poster to a "T" but he's too

self-

absorbed to realize it.

Unconscious negative self-projection is a hallmark of malignant
narcissism.

>In short, he just can't help himself.

He even closes with a bit of accurate self-analysis to explain his

bad

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "2-WILD" <lucky4K@...> wrote:

behavior.

#9

Now that we seemed to have gotten a disgraced Dick Mustain out of the
way, let's chat about a few other waaay more important issues. Like
the election. What I can say is it's simply a win-win situation for
anyone who's a Patriot and for anyone who would like to see John
McCain win. He's a bit too old I think, but still would spare us the
arrogant lectures of a black half-breed Muslim who continues to fool
young and mislead voters everywhere. However, even if this
abomination wins I'll be happy. It'll then be OUR turn to criticize
everything he does as stupid and every speech he makes as similar to
a student debating in front on a clueless class.

On the video poker front, unlike every loser's hero Jean Scott and
unlike Bob Dancer - who by his own admission needs to cheat and
manipulate his way around local casinos just to garner enough bonus
payoffs and piles of comps to break "about even", I came out nearly
$200,000 ahead in 2008--and with only 4 royals (1 @ $2, 1 @ $5, and 2
@ $10). So whom do yout to kiss up to? Someone who claims to have won
a million dollars over 6 months with a HUGE assist from mounds of
comps and freebies that were inflated to be able to make that
announcement....or someone who's consistently won every year since
1997 to the tune of over $974,000, WITHOUT one comp or one freebie or
one bit of slot club fluff added in just to be able to keep on
selling vp junk to keep gambling money in the wallets? And then let's
see....do players who play nearly every day for hours on end in order
to get their sick fix turn you on, or are you more impressed with the
player who puts the game a distant 4th or 5th in relative importance
to the rest of his life? Be careful....the answer will define you.

#10

Ignorance is voting for the same thing 3 times and expecting a
differant outcome. The current financial crisis is merely the next step
in W's quest to bankrupt America. He didn't even see it coming. What we
need is Change, not the old man and the milf kinda change, but the
change to look at the situation and the world through a new set of
eyes. Bush had 8 years and has nearly destroyed and bankrupted America.
Dropping the ball in Afghanistan and then invading a soverign nation
that had nothing to do with 9-11 and was no threat to America. Al-Qudea
didn't exist in Iraq until after we invaded there. I personally don't
give a damn if the surge worked since this is a war that was illegal in
the first place. Cutting and running are a historic republican trait;
Nixon in Nam and Regan after the bombing of the marine barracks in
Lebanon. Would.nt be nice to have some peace and maybe be able to do
some rebuilding in America and return her to her rightful place as most
respected in the world.
Any concerns about my username may be dismissed since the name used in
it relates to an assumed and fictitious name.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@...>
wrote:

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let's chat about a few other waaay more important issues. Like
the election. What I can say is it's simply a win-win situation for
anyone who's a Patriot and for anyone who would like to see John
McCain win. He's a bit too old I think, but still would spare us the
arrogant lectures of a black half-breed Muslim who continues to fool
young and mislead voters everywhere. However, even if this
abomination wins I'll be happy. It'll then be OUR turn to criticize
everything he does as stupid and every speech he makes as similar to
a student debating in front on a clueless class.

#11

I see an attempt to use talking points as a defense of whacko liberals.
All you did was argue points lost by Obama to McCain as he nearly
totally destroyed the Muslim lover (why he did't vote to go into Iraq
like most everyone else did) in the first debate.

I'm not really caring who wins at this point. If McCain gets in I'll
feel a helluva lot safer daily, but I'll worry about his health and
age. Rudi would have been the FAR better choice. If Obama gets in I'll
do just what all liberal kool aid drinkers have been doing for 8 years
now: whine & criticize with lies, half truths and twisted facts. Now I
see where you nutcases get your enjoyment from...

#12

I don't know what debate you were watching but the one that was on TV
didn't show much more than McBush's attempts to keep lying to America.
I hope you were heavily invested in WaMu, no reason you shouldn't be
able to reap the benefits of your Republican leadershit. You are a
hopeless fool living in a fools paradise. You should have stayed with
your money in Canada.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@...>
wrote:

I see an attempt to use talking points as a defense of whacko

liberals.

All you did was argue points lost by Obama to McCain as he nearly
totally destroyed the Muslim lover (why he did't vote to go into Iraq
like most everyone else did) in the first debate.

I'm not really caring who wins at this point. If McCain gets in I'll
feel a helluva lot safer daily, but I'll worry about his health and
age. Rudi would have been the FAR better choice. If Obama gets in

I'll

do just what all liberal kool aid drinkers have been doing for 8

years

now: whine & criticize with lies, half truths and twisted facts. Now

I

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see where you nutcases get your enjoyment from...

#13

I'm heavily invested in several oil giants, so I'm happy whenever gasoline prices go up. It also makes me smile whenever the liberal whiners complain about gas. That would include you!

Let's make it a clean Republican SWEEP for 4 more years!! Then we could listen to the same sour grapes arguments going nowhere from the whackos once again!!!

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--- On Sun, 9/28/08, robsingersux <robsingersux@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: robsingersux <robsingersux@yahoo.com>
Subject: [FREEvpFREE] Re: Singer: Wrong again on so many levels
To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 6:25 PM

I don't know what debate you were watching but the one that was on TV
didn't show much more than McBush's attempts to keep lying to America.
I hope you were heavily invested in WaMu, no reason you shouldn't be
able to reap the benefits of your Republican leadershit. You are a
hopeless fool living in a fools paradise. You should have stayed with
your money in Canada.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogro ups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@ ...>
wrote:

I see an attempt to use talking points as a defense of whacko

liberals.

All you did was argue points lost by Obama to McCain as he nearly
totally destroyed the Muslim lover (why he did't vote to go into Iraq
like most everyone else did) in the first debate.

I'm not really caring who wins at this point. If McCain gets in I'll
feel a helluva lot safer daily, but I'll worry about his health and
age. Rudi would have been the FAR better choice. If Obama gets in

I'll

do just what all liberal kool aid drinkers have been doing for 8

years

now: whine & criticize with lies, half truths and twisted facts. Now

I

see where you nutcases get your enjoyment from...

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#14

I respect all posts with varying political opinions but draw the line at name calling. Using the term "black half breed muslim" is totally out of place. I prefer Obama to McCain but would never call McCain names; he just has a viewpoint less closer to mine than Obama but they both are U S Senators and deserve respect.

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--- On Sun, 9/28/08, robsingersux <robsingersux@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: robsingersux <robsingersux@yahoo.com>
Subject: [FREEvpFREE] Singer: wrong again on so many levels
To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 8:27 AM

            Ignorance is voting for the same thing 3 times and expecting a

differant outcome. The current financial crisis is merely the next step

in W's quest to bankrupt America. He didn't even see it coming. What we

need is Change, not the old man and the milf kinda change, but the

change to look at the situation and the world through a new set of

eyes. Bush had 8 years and has nearly destroyed and bankrupted America.

Dropping the ball in Afghanistan and then invading a soverign nation

that had nothing to do with 9-11 and was no threat to America. Al-Qudea

didn't exist in Iraq until after we invaded there. I personally don't

give a damn if the surge worked since this is a war that was illegal in

the first place. Cutting and running are a historic republican trait;

Nixon in Nam and Regan after the bombing of the marine barracks in

Lebanon. Would.nt be nice to have some peace and maybe be able to do

some rebuilding in America and return her to her rightful place as most

respected in the world.

Any concerns about my username may be dismissed since the name used in

it relates to an assumed and fictitious name.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogro ups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@ ...>

wrote:

let's chat about a few other waaay more important issues. Like

the election. What I can say is it's simply a win-win situation for

anyone who's a Patriot and for anyone who would like to see John

McCain win. He's a bit too old I think, but still would spare us the

arrogant lectures of a black half-breed Muslim who continues to fool

young and mislead voters everywhere. However, even if this

abomination wins I'll be happy. It'll then be OUR turn to criticize

everything he does as stupid and every speech he makes as similar to

a student debating in front on a clueless class.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15

He's actually a half-breed who prefers to be labeled a black. Name
another term for that because he's not 100% black. Why are you
offended by the truth? And many of us consider him as hiding his
Muslim sympathies, which is the primary reason he broke from nearly
everyone else in the Gov't. and didn't want us going into Iraq.

What do you label the Reverend Racist Wright as....an Oppressed Born
Again African American? How about convicted domestic terrorist and
Obama confidant Bill Ayers? Misunderstood white trash?

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, pesach kremen <royalflush2222@...>
wrote:

I respect all posts with varying political opinions but draw the

line at name calling. Using the term "black half breed muslim" is
totally out of place. I prefer Obama to McCain but would never call
McCain names; he just has a viewpoint less closer to mine than Obama
but they both are U S Senators and deserve respect.

From: robsingersux <robsingersux@...>
Subject: [FREEvpFREE] Singer: wrong again on so many levels
To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 8:27 AM

            Ignorance is voting for the same thing 3 times and

expecting a

differant outcome. The current financial crisis is merely the next

step

in W's quest to bankrupt America. He didn't even see it coming.

What we

need is Change, not the old man and the milf kinda change, but the

change to look at the situation and the world through a new set of

eyes. Bush had 8 years and has nearly destroyed and bankrupted

America.

Dropping the ball in Afghanistan and then invading a soverign

nation

that had nothing to do with 9-11 and was no threat to America. Al-

Qudea

didn't exist in Iraq until after we invaded there. I personally

don't

give a damn if the surge worked since this is a war that was

illegal in

the first place. Cutting and running are a historic republican

trait;

Nixon in Nam and Regan after the bombing of the marine barracks in

Lebanon. Would.nt be nice to have some peace and maybe be able to

do

some rebuilding in America and return her to her rightful place as

most

respected in the world.

Any concerns about my username may be dismissed since the name used

in

it relates to an assumed and fictitious name.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogro ups.com, "robsinger1111"

<robsinger1111@ ...>

wrote:

>let's chat about a few other waaay more important issues. Like

> the election. What I can say is it's simply a win-win situation

for

> anyone who's a Patriot and for anyone who would like to see John

> McCain win. He's a bit too old I think, but still would spare us

the

> arrogant lectures of a black half-breed Muslim who continues to

fool

> young and mislead voters everywhere. However, even if this

> abomination wins I'll be happy. It'll then be OUR turn to

criticize

> everything he does as stupid and every speech he makes as similar

to

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--- On Sun, 9/28/08, robsingersux <robsingersux@...> wrote:

> a student debating in front on a clueless class.

>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#16

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@...>
wrote:

He's actually a half-breed who prefers to be labeled a black. Name
another term for that because he's not 100% black.

Mulatto is the word your looking for

#17

I just hope the republicants SWEEP up and pick up their messes before
moving out of DC in January.
So, your talk about "half-breeds"? Are you pure bred Italian Surrender
hound? Or are you more of a S. American Butt Sniffer. I would like to
see your pedigree, you racist f*ckhead.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Rob Singer <robsinger1111@...>
wrote:

I'm heavily invested in several oil giants, so I'm happy whenever

gasoline prices go up. It also makes me smile whenever the liberal
whiners complain about gas. That would include you!

Let's make it a clean Republican SWEEP for 4 more years!! Then we

could listen to the same sour grapes arguments going nowhere from the
whackos once again!!!

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#18

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsingersux" <robsingersux@...>
wrote:

Assuming this is not yet another Singer ghost to feed his attention-
addiction (he has a long history of creating ghosts to either argue
with or support him ... but that's a topic for another time) this
poster has not been paying attention.

Ahem! Sir, you are attempting to reason (perhaps not) with a
psychopath. If you saw a homeless man in an inner city standing on a
soapbox screaming irrationally at passer-bys, would you stop to
engage him in rational dialogue? Of course not ... so what are you
trying to accomplish by calling him (Singer) out?

Perhaps you think he will listen to reason and adopt your position?
Or maybe you see this as an opportunity to argue your political
position before another audience because your friends (or other
message boards) are sick of hearing you talk? Maybe you think you
can make him feel stupid or foolish, teach him a lesson, even
humiliate him? Or maybe he's provoked you so you just have to speak
up and put him down?

Well?

I'll save you (and pesach) some time and aggravation. Take a time-
out, do a google search for "malignant narcissism", read an article
or two (there are hundreds), and tell me if you don't recognize your
sparring partner. Read on and you will soon realize that politics,
religion, race, video poker ... whatever topic he chooses to bring
up ... are mere FRONTS TO GAIN ATTENTION.

Why do you think he spends all his time on VP forums spouting
nonsense that flies in the face of reason and making up all manner of
stories to provide support for his outrageous arguments? Uhh ... to
get attention? Bingo! And when VP fails (as it did here), he'll
move on to politics, race ... whatever it takes.

This is an inadequate man (emotionally a child) with no self-esteem,
self-respect, or conscience engaged in a desperate search for
attention who is not interested in being liked or admired because
he's ashamed of himself. Instead he wants to be seen as
controversial, notorious, feared, and even hated (nothing like a
little blatant racism to get the blood boiling). He does this by
trying to control and manipulate the gullible (that would be you and
pesach) and innocent through charm (ONLY in person), emotional abuse
(if crossed) and even physical abuse (if he thinks he can get away
with it).

You can not reason with such a person, and you'd be a fool to even
acknowledge him. And you certainly can not humiliate a man with no
self-respect or self-esteem.

The best punishment (the tone of your posts) for a psychopath starved
for attention is to simply ignore him. Are you man enough to do so?
Take comfort in the fact that thousands of VPfree members do just
that and their lives are better for it.

Side-note: poster turns on me? Heh, heh ... Singer ghost

#19

'Mulatto' does NOT mean, "a half-breed who prefers to be labeled a black."

I think Rob's issue is Obama's preference to be labeled as black, although
his mother was white.

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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:03 AM, gamboozler <gamboozler@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111" <robsinger1111@...>
wrote:
> He's actually a half-breed who prefers to be labeled a black. Name
> another term for that because he's not 100% black.

Mulatto is the word your looking for

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#20

The US helped Hussein the Iran-Iraq wall as we helped other dictators in the mistaken belief that fascism was better than communism. (Both are problematic) and the idea of invading a country that did not attack us? There are many against the war and not because of their being members of a particular religion.

It has been said that the US has world sympathy after 9/11 but now we have world anger due invading IRAQ. There are many reasons for being against the war, needless casualties, the tremendous cost when we are already trillions in debt, invading a country who did not attack us, etc. At no time did Senator Obama mention that due his religion we should stay out of Iraq. Let's face it; this war involvement is longer than WWII when we were directly attacked. It needs to end.

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--- On Mon, 9/29/08, robsinger1111 <robsinger1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: robsinger1111 <robsinger1111@yahoo.com>
Subject: [FREEvpFREE] Re: Singer: wrong again on so many levels
To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 7:01 AM

            He's actually a half-breed who prefers to be labeled a black. Name

another term for that because he's not 100% black. Why are you

offended by the truth? And many of us consider him as hiding his

Muslim sympathies, which is the primary reason he broke from nearly

everyone else in the Gov't. and didn't want us going into Iraq.

What do you label the Reverend Racist Wright as....an Oppressed Born

Again African American? How about convicted domestic terrorist and

Obama confidant Bill Ayers? Misunderstood white trash?

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogro ups.com, pesach kremen <royalflush2222@ ...>

wrote:

I respect all posts with varying political opinions but draw the

line at name calling. Using the term "black half breed muslim" is

totally out of place. I prefer Obama to McCain but would never call

McCain names; he just has a viewpoint less closer to mine than Obama

but they both are U S Senators and deserve respect.

--- On Sun, 9/28/08, robsingersux <robsingersux@ ...> wrote:

From: robsingersux <robsingersux@ ...>

Subject: [FREEvpFREE] Singer: wrong again on so many levels

To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogro ups.com

Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 8:27 AM

            Ignorance is voting for the same thing 3 times and

expecting a

differant outcome. The current financial crisis is merely the next

step

in W's quest to bankrupt America. He didn't even see it coming.

What we

need is Change, not the old man and the milf kinda change, but the

change to look at the situation and the world through a new set of

eyes. Bush had 8 years and has nearly destroyed and bankrupted

America.

Dropping the ball in Afghanistan and then invading a soverign

nation

that had nothing to do with 9-11 and was no threat to America. Al-

Qudea

didn't exist in Iraq until after we invaded there. I personally

don't

give a damn if the surge worked since this is a war that was

illegal in

the first place. Cutting and running are a historic republican

trait;

Nixon in Nam and Regan after the bombing of the marine barracks in

Lebanon. Would.nt be nice to have some peace and maybe be able to

do

some rebuilding in America and return her to her rightful place as

most

respected in the world.

Any concerns about my username may be dismissed since the name used

in

it relates to an assumed and fictitious name.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogro ups.com, "robsinger1111"

<robsinger1111@ ...>

wrote:

>let's chat about a few other waaay more important issues. Like

> the election. What I can say is it's simply a win-win situation

for

> anyone who's a Patriot and for anyone who would like to see John

> McCain win. He's a bit too old I think, but still would spare us

the

> arrogant lectures of a black half-breed Muslim who continues to

fool

> young and mislead voters everywhere. However, even if this

> abomination wins I'll be happy. It'll then be OUR turn to

criticize

> everything he does as stupid and every speech he makes as similar

to

> a student debating in front on a clueless class.

>

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