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More Singer Logic (?)

In his latest newletter Rob Singer, the king of nonsense, claims the
folks who came up with long term expert play are "so-called math
experts". He then states he doesn't believe in it. Of course, VP play
is a EXTREMELY simple application of standard statistics that is used
over and over again around the world in business, politics, and of
course, the casinos.

What makes his claims so silly is that he follows it with ... "I'm
utilizing complicated risk analyses to determine which dealt
opportunities have the best value in possibly providing me with a
goal-attainment or a session-ending big hit" ... which is just a
bunch of words to try and sound intelligent. BUT ... how can anyone
believe he is using "complicated risk analyses" when he obviously
doesn't know the first thing about a much simpler branch of
mathematics ... statistics.

Finally he states he can "prove it", but, of course, he doesn't. Nor,
will he ever prove something that has already been PROVEN to be
nonsense.

This was just so VERY, VERY funny that I had to share it with
everyone.

Dick

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RE: Rob Singer does have his points, some good and some not so

good.

Like everything else in gambling, the reader, in my humble opinion,
should take everything they read with a grain of salt. Not every
point will apply to each case.
When I read the "Truth about advantage video poker", and then right
after that how to win at long term by using my "System" I am of
course a little wary. Did I say"A Little"?. That's like saying the
pope is a little bit Catholic.
I do agree the risk of ruin is too much for some players, and the
variance will eat you alive if you don't have the long term

bankroll

to sustain them. This does lead to many players over reaching their
limits and losing a lot of money, especially if they dont have the
time to play for those countless hours it takes to rebound from
them.
So, as far as the 'Statistics" are concerned I think that's a lot

of

hooey. Risk analasis? Analize this: If you can't pay the piper you
are going to lose your ass.

Right on.

I really have a problem with some so called "Gurus" that make their
living telling other people that if they play a certain way, and
stay in there for the long term, they're going to come out smelling
like a rose in the end. I say "HogWash".

I really don't know any "experts" that say this. This is Rob putting
words into other's mouths. The real experts only say this method will
give one the "best" opportunity to win. So, if you're going to
gamble, do it responsibly and in a manner that maximizes your chances.

Chasing the mystical carrot is like the light at the end of the
tunnel, when it turns out to be the headlight of a oncoming train!
We all like to gamble, or we wouldn't be here. (on this site) but
keep it safe and sane. Don't overplay your budget. You will
eventually hit the big royal, but don't end up chasing your tail.
Play smart, and play for fun and recreation. It's no fun when

you've

spent the cat food money on that last VP session, and you don't

even

have a cat.
:slight_smile:

Good advice. If we all would spend a little more time understanding
the economics behind gambling there would be a lot fewer people
losing their shirts ... Oh, and my cat agrees completely.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <budfinance@...> wrote:

("I really have a problem with some so called "Gurus" that make their
living telling other people that if they play a certain way, and
stay in there for the long term, they're going to come out smelling
like a rose in the end. I say "HogWash".")

I really don't know any "experts" that say this. This is Rob putting
words into other's mouths. The real experts only say this method will
give one the "best" opportunity to win. So, if you're going to
gamble, do it responsibly and in a manner that maximizes your chances.

Well, well, well. I take a few trips up to Lake Tahoe, entertain family
for several weeks, and I see video poker keeps ripping apart the fabric
of those who think they own the game....

Looks like "relationships" have a way of deteriorating before their
time in most gambling ventures (Zamzow/Dancer & Wolf/Scott for
instance)....that is, with the obvious exception of Singer/GBC (8
years) & Singer/Gaming Today (7 years this coming Jan. 1st). Wonder
why? It's all about the money folks, and addicted video poker players
who pretend to be playing "only recreationally" for their 6-hour stints
every day because they reside in the hole called Las Vegas, are always
looking to either screw their partners out of anything they can conjure
up -- or their frustration with the game and irritation with losing
creates a path to the point of no return out of extreme aggrevation.
We've seen this time and again, esp. in the over-commercialized video
poker world. Once again, what goes around comes around. And just as
predictable is the fact that everyone says they can sue each other --
just as all the "gurus" have always threatened to sue me whenever they
read more of the undeniable truth -- no one ever seems to get around to
it because they're too busy feeding their unsatiable habit at the
machines instead of their supposed attorneys.

Not too surprising is my pal Dick reading everything I write wherever I
write it. thank you for being a part of the Singer family! The risk
analyses obviously caught your attention because through the years,
I've always noticed how whenever I make a devastating point which you
cannot comprehend since you're just not educated enough, there's no way
you can let it go without making your feeble attempt at making yourself
feel better about yourself now that the truth has been printed. Proof,
my friend, has always been available, only you'd rather spend
Thanksgiving Day inside casinos and away from family with all the other
low-life sickos or spend weekends running away from me.

To each his own, but I do get so much enjoyment over watching all the
self-proclaimed math geeks who have never generated anything believable
with their half-baked truths about so-called long-term winning with
optimal play, argue, battle, call each others names, and generally make
me look better with every punch and pretend story.

God, what a Great Country! And God Bless The Great GWB for keeping
terror attacks off US soil since Clinton the Adulterer allowed 9-11 to
come to fruition for Al-Q.

Oh, BTW, for the phoneys who wanted me to fail in NFL betting this
year, I hope you've all been following my progress on my site as I
prepare to take over that world within the next few years also. How's
this taste? +33 units as of today!! While Anthony Curtis tries to make
money selling a stupid little video poker handheld game to the LV
addicts who can't get enough booze, fat-ass foods, smoke and losing in
the casinos -- I smoke the books.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

Well, well, well. I take a few trips up to Lake Tahoe, entertain

family

for several weeks, and I see video poker keeps ripping apart the

fabric

of those who think they own the game....

Looks like "relationships" have a way of deteriorating before their
time in most gambling ventures (Zamzow/Dancer & Wolf/Scott for
instance)....that is, with the obvious exception of Singer/GBC (8
years) & Singer/Gaming Today (7 years this coming Jan. 1st). Wonder
why? It's all about the money folks, and addicted video poker

players

who pretend to be playing "only recreationally" for their 6-hour

stints

every day because they reside in the hole called Las Vegas, are

always

looking to either screw their partners out of anything they can

conjure

up -- or their frustration with the game and irritation with losing
creates a path to the point of no return out of extreme

aggrevation.

We've seen this time and again, esp. in the over-commercialized

video

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poker world. Once again, what goes around comes around. And just as
predictable is the fact that everyone says they can sue each other -

-

You really are behind the times. The things you mentioned here
occurred long ago. It seems that for someone who thinks they know so
much, you really know nothing.

just as all the "gurus" have always threatened to sue me whenever

they

read more of the undeniable truth -- no one ever seems to get

around to

it because they're too busy feeding their unsatiable habit at the
machines instead of their supposed attorneys.

I can just imagine how pleased you were to see Jean and Brad hit
jackpots of 100K and 16K in a couple of weeks. Kind of blows your
ongoing BS that experts never win. LMAO. Oh, and I'm also heading for
another winning year. Doesn't that just warm your little heart?

Now, why would anyone want to sue you? You are a nobody with the
influence of gnat.

Not too surprising is my pal Dick reading everything I write

wherever I

write it. thank you for being a part of the Singer family! The risk
analyses obviously caught your attention because through the years,
I've always noticed how whenever I make a devastating point which

you

cannot comprehend since you're just not educated enough, there's no

way

you can let it go without making your feeble attempt at making

yourself

feel better about yourself now that the truth has been printed.

Translation: Rob, knows I hit the target right on the bullseye.

Rob, these silly attempts of yours will never keep me from providing
the truth. It warms my heart to see you admit it in your own little
way.

Proof,

my friend, has always been available, only you'd rather spend
Thanksgiving Day inside casinos and away from family with all the

other

low-life sickos or spend weekends running away from me.

Never ran away from you yet. Never will. We all know that if you had
anything to present you would have done it years ago. Same old Rob.

To each his own, but I do get so much enjoyment over watching all

the

self-proclaimed math geeks who have never generated anything

believable

with their half-baked truths about so-called long-term winning with
optimal play, argue, battle, call each others names, and generally

make

me look better with every punch and pretend story.

Sorry, you will always look like the envious little man that you are.