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More annoyance from Harrah's - Grand Biloxi Card Readers

During a recent play at the Biloxi Grand, I noted that the slot card
reader display no longer gives a total of points earned on the current
date when the card is inserted, nor any mention of tier credits or
total reward credits. You still get a countdown and a "session
points" total, but once you pull your card, poof - no more info. When
the card is re-inserted, the display goes directly from "Welcome Joe
Blow, gathering your information" to "0000 session points". I tested
several different machines, and all that I tested did the same thing.

Why is this annoying? The main reason for pulling your card once in a
while is to verify that the central computer is actually capturing
your play. Much better to lose just a small block of points than to
play all day long only to find out that none of your points have been
recorded. But now you get no indication whatsoever of any previous
play - you just hope it's being recorded. I suppose one could go to
the Total Rewards desk every 45 minutes or so and ask them to check on
your progress that day just to make sure the points are showing up,
but this would be a royal PITA. Additionally, the change makes it
much more difficult to keep up with how much play you've put in during
the day if you pull your card for other obvious reasons, i.e. you
change machines, or take breaks, or your card gets pulled for a
jackpot, etc. Basically, you have to keep up with your play
manually. One more thing - it means there is no easy way to find out
how many Bonus Reward Credits you are getting from a particular
machine, other than something like an indirect calculation based on
points showing up on the Harrah's web site.

I wonder if this is going to be a permanent change. Do casino
executives stay up late at night thinking of new ways to annoy the
customer?

EE

Why play at Grand when IP has better pay tables and a new casino that
provides a better atmosphere? Your previous advice of "Comp and
Stiff" seems applicable here!!

--- In vpFREE_Biloxi@yahoogroups.com, "eecounter" <eecounter@...>
wrote:

During a recent play at the Biloxi Grand, I noted that the slot

card

reader display no longer gives a total of points earned on the

current

date when the card is inserted, nor any mention of tier credits or
total reward credits. You still get a countdown and a "session
points" total, but once you pull your card, poof - no more info.

When

the card is re-inserted, the display goes directly from "Welcome

Joe

Blow, gathering your information" to "0000 session points". I

tested

several different machines, and all that I tested did the same

thing.

Why is this annoying? The main reason for pulling your card once

in a

while is to verify that the central computer is actually capturing
your play. Much better to lose just a small block of points than

to

play all day long only to find out that none of your points have

been

recorded. But now you get no indication whatsoever of any previous
play - you just hope it's being recorded. I suppose one could go

to

the Total Rewards desk every 45 minutes or so and ask them to check

on

your progress that day just to make sure the points are showing up,
but this would be a royal PITA. Additionally, the change makes it
much more difficult to keep up with how much play you've put in

during

the day if you pull your card for other obvious reasons, i.e. you
change machines, or take breaks, or your card gets pulled for a
jackpot, etc. Basically, you have to keep up with your play
manually. One more thing - it means there is no easy way to find

out

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how many Bonus Reward Credits you are getting from a particular
machine, other than something like an indirect calculation based on
points showing up on the Harrah's web site.

I wonder if this is going to be a permanent change. Do casino
executives stay up late at night thinking of new ways to annoy the
customer?

EE

Pay tables aren't everything, you have to consider the whole package.
The Grand has had some redeeming qualities, at least up to now (but
this may be changing for the worse). I was mainly complaining about a
policy of trying to hide information previously available to the
players, for no apparent reason other than for the sake of making
things more difficult.

EE

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--- In vpFREE_Biloxi@yahoogroups.com, "nanacaa" <nanacaa@...> wrote:

Why play at Grand when IP has better pay tables and a new casino that
provides a better atmosphere? Your previous advice of "Comp and
Stiff" seems applicable here!!

I don't think it is deliberate, but some sort of systemic error. I saw it in New Orleans and Tunica last week, too. I was able to see my points occasionally by playing, pulling the card, waiting a few minutes, then reinserting it. It didn't always work, but it did often enough to keep abreast of my play. I agree that it is really annoying, though.

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-----Original Message-----
From: "eecounter" <eecounter@hotmail.com>

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:09:00
To: <vpFREE_Biloxi@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE_Biloxi] Re: More annoyance from Harrah's - Grand Biloxi Card Readers

--- In vpFREE_Biloxi@yahoogroups.com, "nanacaa" <nanacaa@...> wrote:

Why play at Grand when IP has better pay tables and a new casino that
provides a better atmosphere? Your previous advice of "Comp and
Stiff" seems applicable here!!

Pay tables aren't everything, you have to consider the whole package.
The Grand has had some redeeming qualities, at least up to now (but
this may be changing for the worse). I was mainly complaining about a
policy of trying to hide information previously available to the
players, for no apparent reason other than for the sake of making
things more difficult.

EE

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The system has apparently been restored to the former settings.
During my most recent play there I was able to see daily total points
and bonus points after pulling my card.

EE

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--- In vpFREE_Biloxi@yahoogroups.com, "Sam" <carter561@...> wrote:

I don't think it is deliberate, but some sort of systemic error.