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#1

I'm able to do well here because, except for the one player I mentioned, the rest of the so called machine players with half a clue here are of low caliber. They know a play of two, but they don't know the whole story.

Anyone can look at a six-spot keno progressive, write down the numbers and go run it online on the Wizard of Odds keno calculaor to see where they are at. That is, if it's a conventional keno game. But what if it's a three-way game. Like six-spot progressive with a bonus round involved. What if, after you punch in your six-spot and start playing, the machine makes 7 picks every game. You have to hit at least four out of the seven machines picks plus a pay in your six-spot to get into the bonus round. Guess what, you ain't going to run to the Wiz to figure it out.

Now you are looking at a 13-spot with one way of 7 and one way of 6. It's easy to run a 13 spot on available software to get the chances of 7/13, 8/13/, 9/13, 10/13, 11/13, 12/13, 13/13. But who's going to tell you how many permutations make 4/7 with 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6? Who's going to tell you how many permutations make 5/7 with 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6? Who's going to tell how how many permutations make 6/7 with 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6., etc., so you can figure out the frequency for getting into the bonus round? Your just gonna have to sit down with a calculator and a notepad and figure it out yourself. That is, if you know how to do it.

And the bonus round is free games with multipliers. The free games can be anywhere from 1 to 25 games. The multipliers can range from 2X to 25X. And it's all weighted random. Who's gonna figure out the average value of the bonus round for you?

It's what separates the real pros from the poser pros. And, brothers and sisters, I ain't no poser pro. That's my edge here in Montana. I know how to do all of the above. The rest of the pack here in Montana don't.

#2

I've been to Montana a couple of times. This past Summer I went to Kalispell where I stayed while visiting Glacier National Park. I stayed across the street from the Montana Club which is a steakhouse with a casino in the back. Just so people know the machine area is small and there is an attendant that hovers over you. I imagine this is the case in many of casinos. When you start checking machines they ask can they help you. I guess if your a local like Mickey it's easier because they see you all the time. They know if your a local or outsider. The casinos are spread out and all over the place. He's right about the weather. I was in West Yellowstone, MT in mid May 12 years ago and the temperature was near zero at night. It's a beautiful state and I can't think of a better place to spend a Summer. The Winter is a whole other story.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

I'm able to do well here because, except for the one player I mentioned, the rest of the so called machine players with half a clue here are of low caliber. They know a play of two, but they don't know the whole story.

Anyone can look at a six-spot keno progressive, write down the numbers and go run it online on the Wizard of Odds keno calculaor to see where they are at. That is, if it's a conventional keno game. But what if it's a three-way game. Like six-spot progressive with a bonus round involved. What if, after you punch in your six-spot and start playing, the machine makes 7 picks every game. You have to hit at least four out of the seven machines picks plus a pay in your six-spot to get into the bonus round. Guess what, you ain't going to run to the Wiz to figure it out.

Now you are looking at a 13-spot with one way of 7 and one way of 6. It's easy to run a 13 spot on available software to get the chances of 7/13, 8/13/, 9/13, 10/13, 11/13, 12/13, 13/13. But who's going to tell you how many permutations make 4/7 with 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6? Who's going to tell you how many permutations make 5/7 with 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6? Who's going to tell how how many permutations make 6/7 with 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6., etc., so you can figure out the frequency for getting into the bonus round? Your just gonna have to sit down with a calculator and a notepad and figure it out yourself. That is, if you know how to do it.

And the bonus round is free games with multipliers. The free games can be anywhere from 1 to 25 games. The multipliers can range from 2X to 25X. And it's all weighted random. Who's gonna figure out the average value of the bonus round for you?

It's what separates the real pros from the poser pros. And, brothers and sisters, I ain't no poser pro. That's my edge here in Montana. I know how to do all of the above. The rest of the pack here in Montana don't.

#3

You must have stayed at the Super 8. I used to stay there but I get a better deal down the street at the Motel 6 these days. The Montana Clubs are a relatively new chain outfit. Besides Kalispell, they have two stores in Missoula, one in Butte, and they just opened one in Great Falls. They're a slightly upscale restaurant/bar/casino operation.

The one in Kalispell sits on the site of the old Sawbucks, a dilapted old restaurant/bar/casino. But they had a 5 to 30 spread-limit holdem game. It was the biggest daily cash game in the state for years. I used to sit in the game. One of the regulars in the game was Ray Zee, a published poker writer through 2 + 2 Publishing. Zee wrote about Stud Hi-Lo and Omaha Hi-Lo. Even Doyle Brunson would occasionally sit in the game just to visit with his old friend Zee. Although I was never there when Doyle showed up. I sure would have liked to have met him. Doyle has a summer home just south of Kalispell in a little bitty berg called Dayton on Flathead Lake. Chip Reese had a place there too before he died.

A couple of years ago the Montana Club bought Sawbucks. They knocked it down and built a very nice building. They don't do poker so the game moved to Big Fork.

The slot attendent at the Montana Club wasn't hovering over you because she was suspicious of anything. Like most slot attendents in this state she was trained to give excellent service. I usually don't make it ten feet inside the door before I'm being asked what I want to drink. They ply you with snacks and other things too. The one thing I really like is when a player leaves a machine the attendent quickly sprays it with disenfectant and wipes it down.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "VpKing77" <vpking77@...> wrote:

I've been to Montana a couple of times. This past Summer I went to Kalispell where I stayed while visiting Glacier National Park. I stayed across the street from the Montana Club which is a steakhouse with a casino in the back. Just so people know the machine area is small and there is an attendant that hovers over you. I imagine this is the case in many of casinos. When you start checking machines they ask can they help you. I guess if your a local like Mickey it's easier because they see you all the time. They know if your a local or outsider. The casinos are spread out and all over the place. He's right about the weather. I was in West Yellowstone, MT in mid May 12 years ago and the temperature was near zero at night. It's a beautiful state and I can't think of a better place to spend a Summer. The Winter is a whole other story.