I'm not a math person so when I read a post about "money in" could someone
tell me if you sit and keep track of how much you put in a machine and then how
much you win and then do the math so you know how much you put in-or is there
an easier way?
Thanks-Jan
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I'm not a math person so when I read a post about "money in" could
someone
tell me if you sit and keep track of how much you put in a machine
and then how
much you win and then do the math so you know how much you put in-or
is there
an easier way?
Thanks-Jan
The easiest way is to keep track of your points and understand how much
it takes to earn a point. In LV many casinos issue one point for one
dollar gambled. However, there are several other techniques. The data
base typically shows these values if they are known.
Dick
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Janallanp@a... wrote:
Janallanp@a... wrote:
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> I'm not a math person so when I read a post about "money in" ...
I think you mean Coin-In. You don't count your hands, that would be a crazy
distraction , especially if you play over 600 hands per hour. It's hard enough to count
hands for five minutes, so you can estimate your hands per hour.
Anyhow, like Dick advises, multiply your points times the casino's $ per point to get
your coin-in. The fancier the place the more coin-in per day average you'll need to
earn a room comp. You can eat comfortably at most places by playing a few hours
per meal, all dpending on your denomination and expectations, etc.
Hang in there- the comp game is a nice side benefit to winnin at VP.
~M
I'm not a math person so when I read a post about "money in" could
someone
tell me if you sit and keep track of how much you put in a machine
and then how
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When I used to play BJ on the internet I used a little hand counter
which I clicked for every hand played to know when I had qualified for
my bonus and could cash out. I later used it at a casino with no point
countdown on the machine. I felt a bit dumb doing this in public and
had to play one handed.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Janallanp@a... wrote:
Rule of thumb (or whatever finger you actually use to hit the deal button): Use the #'s in
the database as a guide only. When you get to the casino, always check the (# points)/($
coin in) ratio for yourself. After all, you might just be a wee bit suprised what you find
out.
Here's how I do it: Put a bunch of cash in the machine. Put you card in the machine.
Write down the current #of points. Play a convienent # of hands (say 10 or any number
that makes a nice total dollar amount wagered). Write down the number of points earned.
Take your card out, wait a few seconds (more when the casino is really busy), then re-
insert and check your point balance again. Write it down. Now compute the number of
points actually earned per each dollar actually wagered (use the number you wrote down
after the re-insertion of your card). If something doesn't seem right, stop playing and go
talk to a boothling who can give their version of the facts. BTW, I generally repeat this
procedure a few times (play mulitple 10 hand groups, remove andwait a while then reinsrrt
card again, etc) to make sure I didn't make a mistake.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpearlkc" <vpearlkc@y...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Janallanp@a... wrote:
>
> I'm not a math person so when I read a post about "money in" could
someone
> tell me if you sit and keep track of how much you put in a machine
and then how
I'm not a math person so when I read a post about "money in" could
someone
tell me if you sit and keep track of how much you put in a machine
and then how
much you win and then do the math so you know how much you put in-
or is there
an easier way?
Thanks-Jan
For starters, I would go to the players club and ask how many
dollars in to earn a point. Be aware that at many casino it takes
more coin in to earn a point on vp than on regular slots. Be sure
and ask if this is true.
Once you have your best guess as to what amount of dollars in is
required to earn one point, you could get a quantity of coins
(nickels, quarter, etc that might earn you a few points. Play the
coins keeping track of you starting points and do not play your
credits. After playing your predetermined coins (say 10 dollars
earns one point and you play four rolls of quarters you would expect
to have earned four points) pull your card, wait for computer to
catch up and see how many points have been added to your starting
count.
Some card readers start the count over again if you have not played
enough coin in to earn one point. So if you pull your card too
soon, you will never show any points earned.
Another problem is that some count systems start in the middle of a
point and allow you to end in the middle of a point in addition to
those mentioned that will start the point count over if a complete
point is not earned. Best way to get a good handle is to play
counted coins in without playing credits over a fairly large number
of expected points. Also repeating this several times to verify is
a good idea.
That is one way if the machines take coins. If the machines have
TITO (which usually do not allow coins to be inserted) then I do not
know of any way to do this but to count the actual number of hands
played. Play several times that amount of hands for one point (here
you can replay your credits because you must count your hands)
Once you know how many dollars in earns a point then you can just
keep track of your points earned and multiply by the dollars per
point.
When people say coin in, they are usually expressing themselves in
dollars, not actual number of cons put into the machine
DWK
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Janallanp@a... wrote:
Oh, and by the way. Most times one can go to the players club booth
and ask them how many dollars in you have played that day or week or
what ever and they can tell you. Might not always be correct, so
doing your own verification as posted by several here is still good
idea.
DWK