How do the monthly mailers work? I did a little over $60,000 coin-in in Sept on a double points day to finish off my Sagamore status but barely played in August. I received only $10 of freeplay available at the machine for the month of October. Is there a one month delay (i.e. play big in Sept and get big freeplay in Nov) and what is the ratio/payback (i.e $60,000 gives $50 monthly mailer)? October is the first time I've ever gotten freeplay that was good for one month. Is one month freeplay a Sagamore perk? How do you maximize your monthly mailer? Is keeping track of your monthly coin-in a requirement for maximizing your monthly mailer?
Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
I am Sachem level.
The free play amounts have been reduced drastically. I was getting $200 at least once a week. During the last 2 months my free play has gone to $75, sometimes in a month and sometimes only on specific days.
They have been sending more free dining coupons.
···
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "veepdave" <dhoppell@...> wrote:
How do the monthly mailers work? I did a little over $60,000 coin-in in Sept on a double points day to finish off my Sagamore status but barely played in August. I received only $10 of freeplay available at the machine for the month of October. Is there a one month delay (i.e. play big in Sept and get big freeplay in Nov) and what is the ratio/payback (i.e $60,000 gives $50 monthly mailer)? October is the first time I've ever gotten freeplay that was good for one month. Is one month freeplay a Sagamore perk? How do you maximize your monthly mailer? Is keeping track of your monthly coin-in a requirement for maximizing your monthly mailer?
I just was bounced down from Sachem, in spite of having almost triple the points
needed for Sagamore, and the mailers are down to $50, specific days. At least
the food coupons (which are also down to $50) are usable anywhere, not just in
Bobby Flays and Tuscany, the two worst restaurants in the place, IMHO
···
________________________________
From: HOHOHONDO <hohohondo@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 1:57:28 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
I am Sachem level.
The free play amounts have been reduced drastically. I was getting $200 at
least once a week. During the last 2 months my free play has gone to $75,
sometimes in a month and sometimes only on specific days.
They have been sending more free dining coupons.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "veepdave" <dhoppell@...> wrote:
How do the monthly mailers work? I did a little over $60,000 coin-in in Sept
on a double points day to finish off my Sagamore status but barely played in
August. I received only $10 of freeplay available at the machine for the month
of October. Is there a one month delay (i.e. play big in Sept and get big
freeplay in Nov) and what is the ratio/payback (i.e $60,000 gives $50 monthly
mailer)? October is the first time I've ever gotten freeplay that was good for
one month. Is one month freeplay a Sagamore perk? How do you maximize your
monthly mailer? Is keeping track of your monthly coin-in a requirement for
maximizing your monthly mailer?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There has been a very large downgrade in free play. It isn't based on one trip but probably 3 months and they are always a few months behind. With the downgrades in theo for VP we will all see our free play and offers drop dramatically. The club sachem (33rd floor) has dropped from 750 and 500 t0 300 and 200. The more you lose the higher your level will be. Makes no sense
Mel
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
I just was bounced down from Sachem, in spite of having almost triple the points
needed for Sagamore, and the mailers are down to $50, specific days. At least
the food coupons (which are also down to $50) are usable anywhere, not just in
Bobby Flays and Tuscany, the two worst restaurants in the place, IMHO________________________________
From: HOHOHONDO <hohohondo@...>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 1:57:28 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailerI am Sachem level.
The free play amounts have been reduced drastically. I was getting $200 at
least once a week. During the last 2 months my free play has gone to $75,
sometimes in a month and sometimes only on specific days.
They have been sending more free dining coupons.--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "veepdave" <dhoppell@> wrote:
>
> How do the monthly mailers work? I did a little over $60,000 coin-in in Sept
>on a double points day to finish off my Sagamore status but barely played in
>August. I received only $10 of freeplay available at the machine for the month
>of October. Is there a one month delay (i.e. play big in Sept and get big
>freeplay in Nov) and what is the ratio/payback (i.e $60,000 gives $50 monthly
>mailer)? October is the first time I've ever gotten freeplay that was good for
>one month. Is one month freeplay a Sagamore perk? How do you maximize your
>monthly mailer? Is keeping track of your monthly coin-in a requirement for
>maximizing your monthly mailer?
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Do you know what the theos are now for VP? I didn't have any problem making
Sachem the last two periods, but apparently wasn't even close this time, on at
least as much play. Thx
Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you
can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice,
there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation
to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein
···
________________________________
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 5:13:08 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There has
been a very large downgrade in free play. It isn't based on one trip but
probably 3 months and they are always a few months behind. With the downgrades
in theo for VP we will all see our free play and offers drop dramatically. The
club sachem (33rd floor) has dropped from 750 and 500 t0 300 and 200. The more
you lose the higher your level will be. Makes no sense
Mel
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
I just was bounced down from Sachem, in spite of having almost triple the
pointsneeded for Sagamore, and the mailers are down to $50, specific days. At least
the food coupons (which are also down to $50) are usable anywhere, not just in
Bobby Flays and Tuscany, the two worst restaurants in the place, IMHO
________________________________
From: HOHOHONDO <hohohondo@...>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 1:57:28 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailerI am Sachem level.
The free play amounts have been reduced drastically. I was getting $200 at
least once a week. During the last 2 months my free play has gone to $75,
sometimes in a month and sometimes only on specific days.
They have been sending more free dining coupons.--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "veepdave" <dhoppell@> wrote:
>
> How do the monthly mailers work? I did a little over $60,000 coin-in in Sept>on a double points day to finish off my Sagamore status but barely played in
>August. I received only $10 of freeplay available at the machine for the
month>of October. Is there a one month delay (i.e. play big in Sept and get big
>freeplay in Nov) and what is the ratio/payback (i.e $60,000 gives $50 monthly
>mailer)? October is the first time I've ever gotten freeplay that was good
for>one month. Is one month freeplay a Sagamore perk? How do you maximize your
>monthly mailer? Is keeping track of your monthly coin-in a requirement for
>maximizing your monthly mailer?
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
So what does a player do ? Doesn't AC look better to those of us who live within the same, or reasonable distance of the shore ? The point in regards to any casino,is if they tighten the screws and players continue to patronize them then they are the smart ones and we the players are the a-holes !
And if there aren't any other viable VP gaming options then a player has to be able to walk away from it all and if he/she can't then they have a problem of a more serious nature.
Larry F.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There has been a very large downgrade in free play. It isn't based on one trip but probably 3 months and they are always a few months behind. With the downgrades in theo for VP we will all see our free play and offers drop dramatically.
Is it only free play that has been affected ?
Larry F.
···
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There has been a very large downgrade in free play.
Used to be 4.25% of your play on JOB and around 3.5% on Pickum. It is now in the 1 to 1.5% range
Mel
···
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
Do you know what the theos are now for VP? I didn't have any problem making
Sachem the last two periods, but apparently wasn't even close this time, on at
least as much play. ThxCertainly the game is rigged. Donât let that stop you; if you donât bet, you
canât win. -Lazarus LongIn theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice,
there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation
to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein________________________________
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 5:13:08 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailerThe monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There has
been a very large downgrade in free play. It isn't based on one trip but
probably 3 months and they are always a few months behind. With the downgrades
in theo for VP we will all see our free play and offers drop dramatically. The
club sachem (33rd floor) has dropped from 750 and 500 t0 300 and 200. The more
you lose the higher your level will be. Makes no sense
Mel--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@> wrote:
>
> I just was bounced down from Sachem, in spite of having almost triple the
>points
>
> needed for Sagamore, and the mailers are down to $50, specific days. At least
> the food coupons (which are also down to $50) are usable anywhere, not just in> Bobby Flays and Tuscany, the two worst restaurants in the place, IMHO
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: HOHOHONDO <hohohondo@>
> To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 1:57:28 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
>
>
> I am Sachem level.
> The free play amounts have been reduced drastically. I was getting $200 at
> least once a week. During the last 2 months my free play has gone to $75,
> sometimes in a month and sometimes only on specific days.
> They have been sending more free dining coupons.
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "veepdave" <dhoppell@> wrote:
> >
> > How do the monthly mailers work? I did a little over $60,000 coin-in in Sept
>
> >on a double points day to finish off my Sagamore status but barely played in
> >August. I received only $10 of freeplay available at the machine for the
>month
>
> >of October. Is there a one month delay (i.e. play big in Sept and get big
> >freeplay in Nov) and what is the ratio/payback (i.e $60,000 gives $50 monthly> >mailer)? October is the first time I've ever gotten freeplay that was good
>for
>
> >one month. Is one month freeplay a Sagamore perk? How do you maximize your
> >monthly mailer? Is keeping track of your monthly coin-in a requirement for
> >maximizing your monthly mailer?
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Everyghing is being downgraded. We used to get 500 debit cards and now it is 150. The only thing that seems to be around the same is the food cocoupons and that is probably because the restaurants are so slow. It also seems that in the last few months the level of performers in the arena has gotten much worse also.
Mel
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja@..." <lfcmja@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
>
> The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There has been a very large downgrade in free play.Is it only free play that has been affected ?
Larry F.
To me it makes Foxwoods much more attractive. They are actively looking for and
comping players. After about 5 trips my offers and Free Play from Foxwoods are
much better than Mohegan. They are very quick in starting to send offers 1-2
weeks and offers are updated on-line daily
···
________________________________
From: "lfcmja@verizon.net" <lfcmja@verizon.net>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 8:55:19 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There
has been a very large downgrade in free play. It isn't based on one trip but
probably 3 months and they are always a few months behind. With the downgrades
in theo for VP we will all see our free play and offers drop dramatically.
So what does a player do ? Doesn't AC look better to those of us who live within
the same, or reasonable distance of the shore ? The point in regards to any
casino,is if they tighten the screws and players continue to patronize them then
they are the smart ones and we the players are the a-holes !
And if there aren't any other viable VP gaming options then a player has to be
able to walk away from it all and if he/she can't then they have a problem of a
more serious nature.
Larry F.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Even the food coupons have gone down. from $250 to $150 and from weekends to
weekdays. They have also combined households aka Harrahs for most give aways and
special events.
···
________________________________
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 6:14:55 AM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
Everyghing is being downgraded. We used to get 500 debit cards and now it is
150. The only thing that seems to be around the same is the food cocoupons and
that is probably because the restaurants are so slow. It also seems that in the
last few months the level of performers in the arena has gotten much worse also.
Mel
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja@..." <lfcmja@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
>
> The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There
has been a very large downgrade in free play.Is it only free play that has been affected ?
Larry F.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We still made Sachem now but it is only a matter of time until all VP players
are downgraded. The only way a VP player will be able to make Sachem is with a
huge ADL. I think I'll pass.
···
________________________________
From: GURU PERF <guruperf@att.net>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 2:47:05 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
I just was bounced down from Sachem, in spite of having almost triple the points
needed for Sagamore, and the mailers are down to $50, specific days. At least
the food coupons (which are also down to $50) are usable anywhere, not just in
Bobby Flays and Tuscany, the two worst restaurants in the place, IMHO
________________________________
From: HOHOHONDO <hohohondo@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 1:57:28 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
I am Sachem level.
The free play amounts have been reduced drastically. I was getting $200 at
least once a week. During the last 2 months my free play has gone to $75,
sometimes in a month and sometimes only on specific days.
They have been sending more free dining coupons.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "veepdave" <dhoppell@...> wrote:
How do the monthly mailers work? I did a little over $60,000 coin-in in Sept
on a double points day to finish off my Sagamore status but barely played in
August. I received only $10 of freeplay available at the machine for the month
of October. Is there a one month delay (i.e. play big in Sept and get big
freeplay in Nov) and what is the ratio/payback (i.e $60,000 gives $50 monthly
mailer)? October is the first time I've ever gotten freeplay that was good for
one month. Is one month freeplay a Sagamore perk? How do you maximize your
monthly mailer? Is keeping track of your monthly coin-in a requirement for
maximizing your monthly mailer?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Joel: Are there any PAYTABLES worthy of a little extra play there? Thanks,
Rod.....
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________________________________
From: Joel Fink <joel0457@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 2:02:02 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
To me it makes Foxwoods much more attractive. They are actively looking for and
comping players. After about 5 trips my offers and Free Play from Foxwoods are
much better than Mohegan. They are very quick in starting to send offers 1-2
weeks and offers are updated on-line daily
________________________________
From: "lfcmja@verizon.net" <lfcmja@verizon.net>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 8:55:19 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There
has been a very large downgrade in free play. It isn't based on one trip but
probably 3 months and they are always a few months behind. With the downgrades
in theo for VP we will all see our free play and offers drop dramatically.
So what does a player do ? Doesn't AC look better to those of us who live within
the same, or reasonable distance of the shore ? The point in regards to any
casino,is if they tighten the screws and players continue to patronize them then
they are the smart ones and we the players are the a-holes !
And if there aren't any other viable VP gaming options then a player has to be
able to walk away from it all and if he/she can't then they have a problem of a
more serious nature.
Larry F.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Nothing under $1 and no playablepick-em. At the $1 level they have 3 banks of
progressives with 9/5 JOB and 9/5DDB. They also have $1 9/6 DDB with a 10 coin
royal. They have about 20-30 $1 machines with 9/6 JOB and 9/6 DDB but you need
to play 25 coin for the full pay royal.
···
________________________________
From: Rod Carlon <vprod618@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 8:59:52 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
Joel: Are there any PAYTABLES worthy of a little extra play there? Thanks,
Rod.....
________________________________
From: Joel Fink <joel0457@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 2:02:02 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
To me it makes Foxwoods much more attractive. They are actively looking for and
comping players. After about 5 trips my offers and Free Play from Foxwoods are
much better than Mohegan. They are very quick in starting to send offers 1-2
weeks and offers are updated on-line daily
________________________________
From: "lfcmja@verizon.net" <lfcmja@verizon.net>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 8:55:19 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Mohegan Sun monthly mailer
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
The monthly mailers are based on your theo or adl (average daily loss) There
has been a very large downgrade in free play. It isn't based on one trip but
probably 3 months and they are always a few months behind. With the downgrades
in theo for VP we will all see our free play and offers drop dramatically.
So what does a player do ? Doesn't AC look better to those of us who live within
the same, or reasonable distance of the shore ? The point in regards to any
casino,is if they tighten the screws and players continue to patronize them then
they are the smart ones and we the players are the a-holes !
And if there aren't any other viable VP gaming options then a player has to be
able to walk away from it all and if he/she can't then they have a problem of a
more serious nature.
Larry F.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]