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Mark's Reno Trip Report - Oct '07

Day 1:
Smooth travel, per usual. Thurs eve flight in on Southwest ,
$174 R/T fare from Seattle. Limo & check-in to a nice Imperial corner suite
on the 14th of 17 floors at the Peppermill.
I got down to the casino within an hour.
Collected my full $200 freeplay (expires Oct 4) playin 25c BP. Piddled
that plus another $350 away in three hours before I played
5-play NSUD 25c near Romanzo. I got DEALT all four deuces,
which got me $1250 and a tax form. Yeee Haaa. But I didn't carry my disposable
camera- I left it in the room. Dang, What a screen-full of wild deuces.

Traveling with 'Diamond' Jim, he fades out about 11:30PM - we cross
paths every few hours the whole trip, maybe play a few sessions
on the same bank, meet up for dinner is about the only "plan".

Just about midnite is when I've piddled away that deuces profit
on 25c games and a few hundred on $1 Joker Wild (18/7 w/ a $4713 prog)
and I'm back to dipping into my original stake. It's the wee hours, and I feel
good about having a high limit session. The only thing high
limit gets me is a bit of peace and quiet when the casino is
busy - and a chance to play $2 and $5 coin. They have $1 coin
games, but those are everywhere in the casino too. I drop $500
on each of: $2 JoB (prog 9408- somebody musta just hit it), $2 DDB, $1 3-play
Deuces, $5 JoB, and $2 and $1 DDB. It's an oh-shit moment:
Day one and there's me at the ATM pulling $500 which has to last
me til midnite of the NEXT DAY. After some earlier
Baileys-coffee drinks, I'm feeling awake & alert, so I keep at
"it":

Lucky for me, I sat at a 50c DDB game and hit Quad Aces with a 4 for $1000.
Down 300 to $1 DDB, then back to quarters. I got dealt quad
Aces on 25c DDB, couldn't draw the kicker, but it was a needed
$200. I finished gaming at 4:30AM with 1200 in my pocket which
would get me well into tomorrow, and at least I could get to
sleep. Down 1750 on day 1 from 9 hrs play.

Pepps has some new design of video poker machines along the
hallway next to the new Sports bar right before the new Sports
book. I call them the Big flight deck machines: they have a
hood: about 18 inch wide covered sides and top, they have a big
display screen with squarish cards and the pay table on the upper-half
which highlights the current made-hands. Big flat area with buttons
and plenty of room for a drink and an ashtray. The rail where
you put your elbows is sorta rubberized- ultra comfy. There's
even a big rubber footrest underneath. The volume is adjustable
on the screen- crank it up - the clicks and chimes are new and
different and very pleasant. The speed has three settings too -
I enjoyed the fastest setting of course. It has only one choice
of video poker: 25c DblDbl Bonus, which is luckily one of my
fave plays. Eight machines, and it's got one (fast!) RF Prog meter:
it got hit numerous times during our stay and I saw the meter go up $150 in about 8 hrs.
The only slight negatives: they are located in a high traffic area (lot of late
night drunken sports fans nearby), and the card hold buttons are
about one quarter of an inch too wide on the gap- I have big
hands and I had to spread my hands a bit more than I do on the
standard machines. Overall rating: 4 1/2 of 5 stars. Whoever
designed these did their homework.

Day 2:
room service full breakfast at 9:45. I thought I set the alarm,
but didn't check the station setting, so the delivery guy's
knock wakes me from a deep sleep. Great meal, I gets to gamin
about 11:15. I start off where I left off- on the Big 25c DDB,
and am rewarded with another dealt quad Aces, this time WITH the
3 kicker for $500.

I do a little scouting of the dozens of new machines to the left
of the new sports book. I don't get past the bank of four 25c
10-coin (effectively 50c denom) DDB's with a group prog RF.
It's at $2762 when I wander by. And stop. and play. I have rarely
seen a 50c DDB with a progressive Royal.
I get a couple quads on it, but it accepts my net 200 loss.
I'll be back. I dabble in my usual 25c and 50c games, I'm
about even on the day when I try some $1 games. Drop 200 on
ACE$BP & then I find a DDB bank near the old sports book with a $4560 prog. I'm sittin
there, mindin my own business, letting my fingers do the thinkin
on what to hold, when the dang machine freezes up. What now?
This is the part where I will someday write a book about my
thoughts between hitting the draw button and the moment of
realization that I've hit a Royal flush. This one I held TJ of
diamonds- not a hand you typically even think "c'mon AKQ", if
you think that sort of thing. I mean, I didn't even notice this
one: but, I'll save it for my book. There was a lady sitting 3
machines away on the same bank - I looked her way and said "hey
- I hit it!" She was non-plussed. "Great." no exclamation
point. So, today I got my disposable camera,
I take a picture of this Diamond royal, get paid, tip
$25, and I'm back in the black for the trip. Yeah!

I do a short walkabout to find someone to tell my story to: I
find Jim playin Pai Gow. He says great WITH an exclamation
point, and we scheme up to meet for dinner at Romanzo in 20 min.
We both order the pasta - scampi dinner - monster shrimps,
those. I am mr. big spender with $5000 in my pocket, use my $50
off coupon and charge $16 net to my room. OK, so all the food
gets comped anyways. I take a long room break, watch some TV
about skydiving in Arizona on the Weather Channel, but return to
the casino at 9PM. I have some long sessions on $1 ACE$BP
(+550) and $2 JoB (-350), I keep even after dinner til a
night-ender on Super Times Pay 25c DDB- which takes me
for $300.

1:00AM quit - 11 hours gaming: +$3600 on the day.

Day 3:
No room service. It took me a couple hrs to get to sleep last
nite. My room has windows I can crack open, which is great for
fresh cold air, but there is a $400 Million building going up on
- an all suite hotel expansion for Pepps - supposed to be open
in mid-Dec. so it got a bit noisy interrupting my REM sleep,
know what I mean? So, it being Saturday, my other pal Mike arrives today.
I find Mike on the multi's just outside the fish bar. Jim stole
my thunder and told him I hit a Royal, but of course, my
version is the full story, which Mike enjoys hearing. He hears
my dealt wild 2's on 5-play story too and then he's all caught
up.

Nothin notable til 4:15, when I hit Quad Aces on $1 DDB for
$800, which leaves me still down 300 for the day. I ratchet up
to even by 6:30, when we all meet up for our dinner Reso at
Oceano. Dinners were good, salads and chowder not-so great this
time. Yoshi Roll sushi appetizer was great, my usual order.
Mike used his $50 coupon and charged the remaining $53 to his
room. Dinner's over and gaming again at 8PM. I'm playin 50c DDB
5-play, when I'm DEALT quad 2s. If I hit a kicker on the draw on any of the 5 hands,
the hand total gets to $1200. As it goes, no Aces, threes
nor fours come in for the kicker, so the hand is only $1000
total. Did I just say "only?"

Dunno if I was feelin rich or what, but I started another
denomination progression: I lost about $500 on 25c and 50c
5-play. Then 50c DDB ('chasing the Royal': prog at 2917) cost me
500 more. $1 BP : -200, $1 DDB: -300, $2 BP:-300 and $2 DDB:
I'm in 100 on $2 DDB when I get DEALT quad 2's with a 3 kicker
for $1600: machine locks up and I get a tax form and handpay by
the high limit slot attendant, who is real purdy by-the-way.
That one deal took care of those last 2 hrs of losses, sweet.

Playin 50c JoB with 3-way prog at the Cabaret bar- the place
that reminds me of the bar in The Shining, except this one has a
full stage for live rock bands above it. I get a rare DEALT
Straight flush for $138- one of the progs gets reset to 125 thanks to me.
  An hour later I hit quad aces for $400 profit playing a $1 BP
bartop at the abandoned Oceano bar. Then a visit to the high
limit, up 100 on $2 BP, I have 900 profit on the day, so I gets
a hankerin for some $5 play. $25 per hand. Did you know, a
Royal on $5 coin is worth $20,000? I've taken a work hiatus for
less than that size jackpot. I score two Full houses worth $225
each, and I quit it up $300. I have a $600 ticket in my hand as
I walk by a $5 coin, 3-play machine. 3 lines @ $25 per line =
$75 a pull. It's got DDB, and I'm feelin like I gotta spin this
guy with my $600 ticket. I score a FH, I get about 10 deals on
it when up pops my "moment": I get dealt a 4-part RF. Hold.
hold. hold. hold. carefully. check it. check again. ok, karma
check, juju, be ready to leap: hit the Draw button. Long
pause (chapter 21 of future book??? )… nada …one high pair for
$25. I got another FH later, got in maybe 10 more hands, and
cashed out $50. I ain't no high roller: $5 coin is still way over my budget
and I sense the danger of gambling beyond your means when I play this for a
5-minute session. I stick to a fixed loss limit.

Night capper I dropped $300 on $2 JoB prog (@9426). 1 AM quit.
11 hours +400 on the day.

Day 4:

Got to gamin at 1PM - just in time to catch the first of 3
Sunday Big Spin drawings - once again, I did not get picked. I
drifted up and down less than 200 until during the 3rd drawing
I'm playin $1 JW prog. Ya know, I made sure that prog never got
above $4764.42 by golly. There can be a lot said about the
thrill of watching just one card APPEAR on your screen: that ONE
card you need to make you oh so happy. And then it does it: it
appears. From some RNG ether -=+ *POOF*. Read the b00k.
Anyhow, I held 4 parts: TKJQ spades, the Ace came in in the far
left slot. Cool. Got a photo. got paid fairly quick- the
attendant even came back to see if I wanted the photographer to
take my picture (I declined). $25 tip. Found Mike playin $1
DDB on our old favorite single lines near the old sports book,
(which got changed to 9/6 DDB) so we shared low-twos ( cooler
than high fives ) and he heard the story. Rare for me or my pals to
get two Royals on one trip.

Then I went off on a $1000 losing spree: -$200 at 25c 5-play
NSUD, -$300 at $1 DDB, and -500 at $2 JoB & BP. So, having the
bankroll for it, I decide to risk 500 at $5 coin. $20K Royal-
reminder of excitement level while playing this game- so, I'm
sure I saw a 4RF or two on this game, but I got somewhat
thrilled to see quad Js on the screen, worth 125 creds - that =
$625. I cashed out 600 profit for the $5 session and fled the
area.

Overheard in the posh pissoir: guy talking to hisself about the piped-in music:
"..this is Great pissing music...."

6:30 dinner at Steak House with me mates again.
Great food- new york steak & grand filet
mignon. Mark grabs the check and charges to room AND pops for
the $30 cash tip - mr big spender again. it's comped - not much
out of pocket. We all wander over to the self-serve computer
near the bell desk to print out our next day's flight boarding
passes- 'group A' being somewhat key on Southwest in case the flight is full.

Quick room break & gaming again by 8:30. I went with a quick
progression up denoms as I was losing: 25-50-$1- $2; stuck
$1000, playing $2 DDB when I got quad 4's with a 2 for $1600 -
tax form and hand pay about 10PM. Kept on $1 denom for -500,
$2 JoB for -500, $2 Bonus -200 despite a quad 3 for 400, Then $2
DDB and two quads for $500 ea returned me most of my losses.
Back to $1's for -350, $2's for -500 and $5 ACE$BP for an
all-too-quick -600. Back to $2 JoB, quad Qs for +250, but lost
300 on the session.

I give the multi-lines a spin and hit quad wild 2s on one line (dealt 3) for 250
playing 25c 5-play, up 250. I switch to 50c 5-play DDB and
surprise myself much like my first Royal, I hold TQ and hit a
Royal on one line for $2000. Tax form (6th for the trip) and
hand pay. This offsets my most recent losing run and puts me up
500 since dinner. I finish the night with an hour and a half
Royal chase on the new 50c DDB as the prog RF is up to 3134.
Two machines are shut down by a couple that had played them most
of the day. This is annoying, as there's only 4 machines- and
the Royal is quite high, so lots of folks wanna play them, me
and Mike included. The couple is there while I'm playing from
!:00-2:30. I hit a bonus quad for 400 and a regular one for 125,
but I drop 300 for the session.

2:30 quit. 11 hours. +4200 for the day.
       Total 42 hours playtime for the trip, +6450.

Day 5.
Room service breakfast at 11AM. I'd pre-packed most of my stuff
the night before.
I took my time (host had gotten me my standard late check-out of
2PM), enjoyed a half of the pot of coffee that came with
breakfast, but got to gaming by 12:15. I headed for the 50c DDB
to do the Royal Chase, and was pleasantly surprised to find Mike
parked on one of the machines. Now, Mike has been bumping bottom, budget-wise,
for much of the trip. But he's had a good morning on this bank, since 8AM(!),
lots of quads, so he has a nice stake going. The RF is over 3200
now. I pump in 400 despite 6 quads for 125 ea plus a 125 rare
Straight flush. The couple is there playing next to me, she is
playing, he is watching. Jim shows up with great news: he got a
Royal!- playing the 25c BP (with the $12,500 Seq). he hit the
regular RF which had prog'd up to $1193. Hurrah. He joins our
50c DDB Royal chase on the machine next to Mike. About 2:30,
Jim takes off to try another game. About 10 minutes later, Mike
comes to my machine to point out the blinking Royal meter lights: another
way to say - I HIT IT! I come around to look at it, we're on back-to-back machines,
give low-twos, then return to my machine, play a few hands, and I hit the cash out
button. The lady next to me does also, the chase is over. So I
grab my card and go over to celebrate with Mike. I suddenly
realize I didn't grab my cashout ticket - $257. I go and look-
it's gone, and I get an immediate sinking feeling. I double
check all my pockets, and realize nope, it's been swiped. The
couple are my first suspects. I fast-walk over to near the Steakhouse,
where some attendants are hanging out, and tell the
most-supervisory-looking one what happened. She calls on her
walkie-talkie to see if my ticket is cashed ( they use machine # & look
it up real-time)- yes -it was printed at 2:44 and cashed at the
machine 10 yds away at 2:46. So, two other guys take down all
the facts, they review their video eye in the sky tapes, and
decide there's enough for them to persue it, and after a 20 minutes.
they decide to reimburse me (!!!) $257. Amazing. Impressive.
They didn't say anything to confirm to me who it
was, but they were treating it like a crime against the
Peppermill. Hardly seems the criminal will find it worth $257 if
they get caught. At a minimum I'd think they'll be barred.

So, not lost was Mike's enthusiasm. That $3260 got him back
close enough to even to turn around a bum trip up til then.

I dropped 550 on that 50c DDB RF chase. I played a bit more on
all my fave games at all denoms for the rest of the day, stopped
at the $2 level.
I dropped another 1900 for down 2450 on the
day. Hilights were few: a 250 Quad on $2 JoB and a $500 quad on
$2 DDB were my only plus sessions.
Plus, I collected another $200 freeplay (begins Oct 8).

We met up for the limo to the airport at 6:40. We stopped at the
Nugget in Sparks so I could run in to cash a $200+ freeplay bonus
I earned there from my visit last July. Thanks for the tip here on vpFree_Reno
that this reads "free-play" on the coupon, but the cashier cage will give you CASH.
Fun to jump back in the limo with $200 and tell the driver:
Step On It, as in: Escape!
I dropped another 100 on VP at the airport.

6 hrs of gaming on day 5, down 2350 for the day.

Full plane for the ride home.
Stats to follow.
Cheers,
MARK

A "dipt" trip:

OCT '07 Reno-Pepps Trip stats - by denom

denom HRS Profit Coin-In # Jackpots
       ------------ (000)---over100

25c 7 - 200 7 7
50c 12 -1450 24 20
$1. 11 6250 44 17
$2. 9 -550 68 12
$5. 1 -850 15 6
Multis:
25c 5 -400 25 10
50c 2.5 1200 20 7
$1. 0.5 -500 5 1
Free-Play 600 - -
Total VP 4100 208 80
tips -200
Trip Profit:3900

For coin-In estimate, I used 800 hands per Hr for most games.
I used 600 hands per Hr for $5 coin and 5-Play.

Here's the Jackpot Summary:

5 x 100
23 x 125 incl. dealt SF on 50c JoB for 138
13 x 200 incl. 5 for dealt quad 2 on 50c 5-play DDB
5 x 225 all FHs on $5 DDB
18 x 250 incl 5 for dealt wild 2s on 25c 5-play NSUD
4 x 400
4 x 500 incl a dealt Quad A w/3 on 25c DDB
1 x 625 quad J on $5 BP
1 x 800 quad A on $1 DDB
1 x 1000 quad A w/4 on 50c DDB
2 x 1600 quad 4 and 3s w/kickers on $2 DDB
1 x 2000 RF on 1 line of 50c 5-play DDB. held 2
1 x 4560 RF on $1 DDB prog held 2
1 x 4765 RF on $1 JW prog held 4

···

----------
80 total jackpots for
    32,150

Day -by- day:

Day Hrs $ +/-
1 9 -1750
2 11 +3600
3 11 + 400
4 11 +4200
5 6 -2350
    ___________
Total 48 hrs +4100

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Let me mention my day 5 swiped ticket incident again:
I wanted to say the Pepps staff & security was MOST professional, quick and efficient.
They exhibited a lot of class during the 'review' of the situation, keeping me informed
along the way as I sat near the machine and waited. They didn't HAVE to reimburse me,
but they did. That's why I was impressed. I felt victimized, then stupid, then angry, then
back to normal as they took care of me. It may have helped that I was a platinum card
holder who was staying on the property.

~MARK

--- "Mark" wrote:

Day 1:

<snip>

Stats to follow.
Cheers,
MARK

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark_my_words_again@...>
wrote:

A "dipt" trip:

OCT '07 Reno-Pepps Trip stats - by denom

Thanks Mark, for a entertaining and informative TR
and congratulations on all the nice hits!

Thanks once again, Mark, for sharing your interesting, amusing and
very entertaining TR!

I'm very happy that you found some great plays at the PEPP, and that
the VP Gods were in your corner!

Congratulations on a solid game plan and some excellent wins!

~Babe~

···

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In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark_my_words_again@.. wrote:

... Smooth travel, per usual. Thurs eve flight in on Southwest ,
$174 R/T fare from Seattle. Limo & check-in to a nice Imperial corner
suite on the 14th of 17 floors at the Peppermill. I got down to the
casino within an hour.......

Mark,
I enjoyed your summary. I am fairly new at VP and have a question for
you. Why do you play so many different types of games? After a while
does each game get boring? JOB is boring to me, but for right now DW
and DB is enough to keep me thinking which cards to keep for which
game I am playing. Thinks---cardman

Day 1:
Smooth travel, per usual. Thurs eve flight in on Southwest ,
$174 R/T fare from Seattle. Limo & check-in to a nice Imperial

corner suite

on the 14th of 17 floors at the Peppermill.
I got down to the casino within an hour.
Collected my full $200 freeplay (expires Oct 4) playin 25c BP. Piddled
that plus another $350 away in three hours before I played
5-play NSUD 25c near Romanzo. I got DEALT all four deuces,
which got me $1250 and a tax form. Yeee Haaa. But I didn't carry

my disposable

camera- I left it in the room. Dang, What a screen-full of wild deuces.

Traveling with 'Diamond' Jim, he fades out about 11:30PM - we cross
paths every few hours the whole trip, maybe play a few sessions
on the same bank, meet up for dinner is about the only "plan".

Just about midnite is when I've piddled away that deuces profit
on 25c games and a few hundred on $1 Joker Wild (18/7 w/ a $4713 prog)
and I'm back to dipping into my original stake. It's the wee hours,

and I feel

good about having a high limit session. The only thing high
limit gets me is a bit of peace and quiet when the casino is
busy - and a chance to play $2 and $5 coin. They have $1 coin
games, but those are everywhere in the casino too. I drop $500
on each of: $2 JoB (prog 9408- somebody musta just hit it), $2

DDB, $1 3-play

Deuces, $5 JoB, and $2 and $1 DDB. It's an oh-shit moment:
Day one and there's me at the ATM pulling $500 which has to last
me til midnite of the NEXT DAY. After some earlier
Baileys-coffee drinks, I'm feeling awake & alert, so I keep at
"it":

Lucky for me, I sat at a 50c DDB game and hit Quad Aces with a 4 for

$1000.

Down 300 to $1 DDB, then back to quarters. I got dealt quad
Aces on 25c DDB, couldn't draw the kicker, but it was a needed
$200. I finished gaming at 4:30AM with 1200 in my pocket which
would get me well into tomorrow, and at least I could get to
sleep. Down 1750 on day 1 from 9 hrs play.

Pepps has some new design of video poker machines along the
hallway next to the new Sports bar right before the new Sports
book. I call them the Big flight deck machines: they have a
hood: about 18 inch wide covered sides and top, they have a big
display screen with squarish cards and the pay table on the upper-half
which highlights the current made-hands. Big flat area with buttons
and plenty of room for a drink and an ashtray. The rail where
you put your elbows is sorta rubberized- ultra comfy. There's
even a big rubber footrest underneath. The volume is adjustable
on the screen- crank it up - the clicks and chimes are new and
different and very pleasant. The speed has three settings too -
I enjoyed the fastest setting of course. It has only one choice
of video poker: 25c DblDbl Bonus, which is luckily one of my
fave plays. Eight machines, and it's got one (fast!) RF Prog meter:
it got hit numerous times during our stay and I saw the meter go up

$150 in about 8 hrs.

The only slight negatives: they are located in a high traffic area

(lot of late

night drunken sports fans nearby), and the card hold buttons are
about one quarter of an inch too wide on the gap- I have big
hands and I had to spread my hands a bit more than I do on the
standard machines. Overall rating: 4 1/2 of 5 stars. Whoever
designed these did their homework.

Day 2:
room service full breakfast at 9:45. I thought I set the alarm,
but didn't check the station setting, so the delivery guy's
knock wakes me from a deep sleep. Great meal, I gets to gamin
about 11:15. I start off where I left off- on the Big 25c DDB,
and am rewarded with another dealt quad Aces, this time WITH the
3 kicker for $500.

I do a little scouting of the dozens of new machines to the left
of the new sports book. I don't get past the bank of four 25c
10-coin (effectively 50c denom) DDB's with a group prog RF.
It's at $2762 when I wander by. And stop. and play. I have rarely
seen a 50c DDB with a progressive Royal.
I get a couple quads on it, but it accepts my net 200 loss.
I'll be back. I dabble in my usual 25c and 50c games, I'm
about even on the day when I try some $1 games. Drop 200 on
ACE$BP & then I find a DDB bank near the old sports book with a

$4560 prog. I'm sittin

there, mindin my own business, letting my fingers do the thinkin
on what to hold, when the dang machine freezes up. What now?
This is the part where I will someday write a book about my
thoughts between hitting the draw button and the moment of
realization that I've hit a Royal flush. This one I held TJ of
diamonds- not a hand you typically even think "c'mon AKQ", if
you think that sort of thing. I mean, I didn't even notice this
one: but, I'll save it for my book. There was a lady sitting 3
machines away on the same bank - I looked her way and said "hey
- I hit it!" She was non-plussed. "Great." no exclamation
point. So, today I got my disposable camera,
I take a picture of this Diamond royal, get paid, tip
$25, and I'm back in the black for the trip. Yeah!

I do a short walkabout to find someone to tell my story to: I
find Jim playin Pai Gow. He says great WITH an exclamation
point, and we scheme up to meet for dinner at Romanzo in 20 min.
We both order the pasta - scampi dinner - monster shrimps,
those. I am mr. big spender with $5000 in my pocket, use my $50
off coupon and charge $16 net to my room. OK, so all the food
gets comped anyways. I take a long room break, watch some TV
about skydiving in Arizona on the Weather Channel, but return to
the casino at 9PM. I have some long sessions on $1 ACE$BP
(+550) and $2 JoB (-350), I keep even after dinner til a
night-ender on Super Times Pay 25c DDB- which takes me
for $300.

1:00AM quit - 11 hours gaming: +$3600 on the day.

Day 3:
No room service. It took me a couple hrs to get to sleep last
nite. My room has windows I can crack open, which is great for
fresh cold air, but there is a $400 Million building going up on
- an all suite hotel expansion for Pepps - supposed to be open
in mid-Dec. so it got a bit noisy interrupting my REM sleep,
know what I mean? So, it being Saturday, my other pal Mike arrives

today.

I find Mike on the multi's just outside the fish bar. Jim stole
my thunder and told him I hit a Royal, but of course, my
version is the full story, which Mike enjoys hearing. He hears
my dealt wild 2's on 5-play story too and then he's all caught
up.

Nothin notable til 4:15, when I hit Quad Aces on $1 DDB for
$800, which leaves me still down 300 for the day. I ratchet up
to even by 6:30, when we all meet up for our dinner Reso at
Oceano. Dinners were good, salads and chowder not-so great this
time. Yoshi Roll sushi appetizer was great, my usual order.
Mike used his $50 coupon and charged the remaining $53 to his
room. Dinner's over and gaming again at 8PM. I'm playin 50c DDB
5-play, when I'm DEALT quad 2s. If I hit a kicker on the draw on

any of the 5 hands,

the hand total gets to $1200. As it goes, no Aces, threes
nor fours come in for the kicker, so the hand is only $1000
total. Did I just say "only?"

Dunno if I was feelin rich or what, but I started another
denomination progression: I lost about $500 on 25c and 50c
5-play. Then 50c DDB ('chasing the Royal': prog at 2917) cost me
500 more. $1 BP : -200, $1 DDB: -300, $2 BP:-300 and $2 DDB:
I'm in 100 on $2 DDB when I get DEALT quad 2's with a 3 kicker
for $1600: machine locks up and I get a tax form and handpay by
the high limit slot attendant, who is real purdy by-the-way.
That one deal took care of those last 2 hrs of losses, sweet.

Playin 50c JoB with 3-way prog at the Cabaret bar- the place
that reminds me of the bar in The Shining, except this one has a
full stage for live rock bands above it. I get a rare DEALT
Straight flush for $138- one of the progs gets reset to 125 thanks

to me.

  An hour later I hit quad aces for $400 profit playing a $1 BP
bartop at the abandoned Oceano bar. Then a visit to the high
limit, up 100 on $2 BP, I have 900 profit on the day, so I gets
a hankerin for some $5 play. $25 per hand. Did you know, a
Royal on $5 coin is worth $20,000? I've taken a work hiatus for
less than that size jackpot. I score two Full houses worth $225
each, and I quit it up $300. I have a $600 ticket in my hand as
I walk by a $5 coin, 3-play machine. 3 lines @ $25 per line =
$75 a pull. It's got DDB, and I'm feelin like I gotta spin this
guy with my $600 ticket. I score a FH, I get about 10 deals on
it when up pops my "moment": I get dealt a 4-part RF. Hold.
hold. hold. hold. carefully. check it. check again. ok, karma
check, juju, be ready to leap: hit the Draw button. Long
pause (chapter 21 of future book??? )… nada …one high pair for
$25. I got another FH later, got in maybe 10 more hands, and
cashed out $50. I ain't no high roller: $5 coin is still way over

my budget

and I sense the danger of gambling beyond your means when I play

this for a

5-minute session. I stick to a fixed loss limit.

Night capper I dropped $300 on $2 JoB prog (@9426). 1 AM quit.
11 hours +400 on the day.

Day 4:

Got to gamin at 1PM - just in time to catch the first of 3
Sunday Big Spin drawings - once again, I did not get picked. I
drifted up and down less than 200 until during the 3rd drawing
I'm playin $1 JW prog. Ya know, I made sure that prog never got
above $4764.42 by golly. There can be a lot said about the
thrill of watching just one card APPEAR on your screen: that ONE
card you need to make you oh so happy. And then it does it: it
appears. From some RNG ether -=+ *POOF*. Read the b00k.
Anyhow, I held 4 parts: TKJQ spades, the Ace came in in the far
left slot. Cool. Got a photo. got paid fairly quick- the
attendant even came back to see if I wanted the photographer to
take my picture (I declined). $25 tip. Found Mike playin $1
DDB on our old favorite single lines near the old sports book,
(which got changed to 9/6 DDB) so we shared low-twos ( cooler
than high fives ) and he heard the story. Rare for me or my pals to
get two Royals on one trip.

Then I went off on a $1000 losing spree: -$200 at 25c 5-play
NSUD, -$300 at $1 DDB, and -500 at $2 JoB & BP. So, having the
bankroll for it, I decide to risk 500 at $5 coin. $20K Royal-
reminder of excitement level while playing this game- so, I'm
sure I saw a 4RF or two on this game, but I got somewhat
thrilled to see quad Js on the screen, worth 125 creds - that =
$625. I cashed out 600 profit for the $5 session and fled the
area.

Overheard in the posh pissoir: guy talking to hisself about the

piped-in music:

"..this is Great pissing music...."

6:30 dinner at Steak House with me mates again.
Great food- new york steak & grand filet
mignon. Mark grabs the check and charges to room AND pops for
the $30 cash tip - mr big spender again. it's comped - not much
out of pocket. We all wander over to the self-serve computer
near the bell desk to print out our next day's flight boarding
passes- 'group A' being somewhat key on Southwest in case the

flight is full.

Quick room break & gaming again by 8:30. I went with a quick
progression up denoms as I was losing: 25-50-$1- $2; stuck
$1000, playing $2 DDB when I got quad 4's with a 2 for $1600 -
tax form and hand pay about 10PM. Kept on $1 denom for -500,
$2 JoB for -500, $2 Bonus -200 despite a quad 3 for 400, Then $2
DDB and two quads for $500 ea returned me most of my losses.
Back to $1's for -350, $2's for -500 and $5 ACE$BP for an
all-too-quick -600. Back to $2 JoB, quad Qs for +250, but lost
300 on the session.

I give the multi-lines a spin and hit quad wild 2s on one line

(dealt 3) for 250

playing 25c 5-play, up 250. I switch to 50c 5-play DDB and
surprise myself much like my first Royal, I hold TQ and hit a
Royal on one line for $2000. Tax form (6th for the trip) and
hand pay. This offsets my most recent losing run and puts me up
500 since dinner. I finish the night with an hour and a half
Royal chase on the new 50c DDB as the prog RF is up to 3134.
Two machines are shut down by a couple that had played them most
of the day. This is annoying, as there's only 4 machines- and
the Royal is quite high, so lots of folks wanna play them, me
and Mike included. The couple is there while I'm playing from
!:00-2:30. I hit a bonus quad for 400 and a regular one for 125,
but I drop 300 for the session.

2:30 quit. 11 hours. +4200 for the day.
       Total 42 hours playtime for the trip, +6450.

Day 5.
Room service breakfast at 11AM. I'd pre-packed most of my stuff
the night before.
I took my time (host had gotten me my standard late check-out of
2PM), enjoyed a half of the pot of coffee that came with
breakfast, but got to gaming by 12:15. I headed for the 50c DDB
to do the Royal Chase, and was pleasantly surprised to find Mike
parked on one of the machines. Now, Mike has been bumping bottom,

budget-wise,

for much of the trip. But he's had a good morning on this bank,

since 8AM(!),

lots of quads, so he has a nice stake going. The RF is over 3200
now. I pump in 400 despite 6 quads for 125 ea plus a 125 rare
Straight flush. The couple is there playing next to me, she is
playing, he is watching. Jim shows up with great news: he got a
Royal!- playing the 25c BP (with the $12,500 Seq). he hit the
regular RF which had prog'd up to $1193. Hurrah. He joins our
50c DDB Royal chase on the machine next to Mike. About 2:30,
Jim takes off to try another game. About 10 minutes later, Mike
comes to my machine to point out the blinking Royal meter lights:

another

way to say - I HIT IT! I come around to look at it, we're on

back-to-back machines,

give low-twos, then return to my machine, play a few hands, and I

hit the cash out

button. The lady next to me does also, the chase is over. So I
grab my card and go over to celebrate with Mike. I suddenly
realize I didn't grab my cashout ticket - $257. I go and look-
it's gone, and I get an immediate sinking feeling. I double
check all my pockets, and realize nope, it's been swiped. The
couple are my first suspects. I fast-walk over to near the Steakhouse,
where some attendants are hanging out, and tell the
most-supervisory-looking one what happened. She calls on her
walkie-talkie to see if my ticket is cashed ( they use machine # & look
it up real-time)- yes -it was printed at 2:44 and cashed at the
machine 10 yds away at 2:46. So, two other guys take down all
the facts, they review their video eye in the sky tapes, and
decide there's enough for them to persue it, and after a 20 minutes.
they decide to reimburse me (!!!) $257. Amazing. Impressive.
They didn't say anything to confirm to me who it
was, but they were treating it like a crime against the
Peppermill. Hardly seems the criminal will find it worth $257 if
they get caught. At a minimum I'd think they'll be barred.

So, not lost was Mike's enthusiasm. That $3260 got him back
close enough to even to turn around a bum trip up til then.

I dropped 550 on that 50c DDB RF chase. I played a bit more on
all my fave games at all denoms for the rest of the day, stopped
at the $2 level.
I dropped another 1900 for down 2450 on the
day. Hilights were few: a 250 Quad on $2 JoB and a $500 quad on
$2 DDB were my only plus sessions.
Plus, I collected another $200 freeplay (begins Oct 8).

We met up for the limo to the airport at 6:40. We stopped at the
Nugget in Sparks so I could run in to cash a $200+ freeplay bonus
I earned there from my visit last July. Thanks for the tip here on

vpFree_Reno

that this reads "free-play" on the coupon, but the cashier cage will

give you CASH.

···

-- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark_my_words_again@...> wrote:

Fun to jump back in the limo with $200 and tell the driver:
Step On It, as in: Escape!
I dropped another 100 on VP at the airport.

6 hrs of gaming on day 5, down 2350 for the day.

Full plane for the ride home.
Stats to follow.
Cheers,
MARK

Well, first of all, cardman, almost everyone has asked me the same question at one point
or another. So, good question. I'm trying to play longer game & machine sessions, at the
very least to make my trip reports easier to follow <grin>.

I am confident enough with the stategies of the games I play to play them at 800-1000
hands per hour. I am able to switch games without confusion on the strategy. Maybe I'm
smart, or maybe I'm deluding myself with this statement, but it's my comfort zone and it's
my bankroll. I probably play an intermediate strategy - with no nod to penalty cards,
which I practice at home on my Mac. I am not a slave to certain games, I enjoy the variety
and I average 10-12 hrs a day on VP on trips to the casino.

I make a play plan before I am in the casino, and I tailor the plan to the casino inventory
and my game preferences. I am still struggling to follow these plans better - When I'm
plus money I should be playing 25c denom.

One sequence is non-wild card games: I play Bonus poker (preferring ACE$BP or a prog) or
JoB with Prog(s) until I lose a few hundred, then I move to DDB (again preferring 10/6 and
Progs). Sometimes I switch between the two, if I am losing in DDB, the switch back to
getting 2-1 for two pair helps my mood and often helps my bankroll.

If things aren't going well or I need a change of pace, I'll play Wild card games. FPDeuces
and Kings or Better Joker Wild are my preferences and I again am comfortable with the
strategies to play fast. I'm slightly less practiced at NSUD, but I will play it.

I'm sure when I play $1 or higher denomination that I am over-extending my limited
budget (which is about $800 per day), but when I move up in denom, it is usually just until
I hit a bonus quads or higher and recoup my lower denom losses.

While I prefer FullPay games, I'm no "FP snob" (not being derogatory at all- to each his
own!). I also don't play DB at all, it's strategy is difficult and in my opinion, too different
to the other bonus type games I play.
I have been dabbling with TBP+, SDDB, TDB and the like, but I am not practiced in their
strategies, so I tend to play them like DDB and I keep sessions short and play 25c or 50c
denom for these "exotics".

I rarely have more than a half hour session on any one game or machine, I've noticed. I'm
not sure the reason, there are probably dozens of reasons. Environment is often the first
reason, which includes obnoxious neighbors, poor wait service, noise and annoying music,
and imperfect machine operation. Hitting my session win goal, usually $100 profit, or
losing my session loss limit is another reason. My limits are $100 @ 25c, $200 @ 50c,
and $3-400 @ $1 denom.

I rarely get moody about a game, I do not to sit there hoping for a certain draw card or
cards every single hand. I find that hoping too hard is a big brain and energy drain. Rather,
I'm just making the correct hold and letting the draw happen. Unless I score quads or
better, and I take a moment to scribble the amount down on my index card, I hold down
the deal button so the winning credits zip into my total and double-clutch the deal button
again for my new hand. I am definitely not going to let the credits go thru their song,
even for quads, in some useless attempt to impress my neighboring players. I'm sure full
houses or sometimes flushes at the higher denoms give me an ever-so-slight surge of
pleasure, but it's always On to the Next Hand, in the hunt for the trophy Royal.

One exception to my short sessions is the Progressive Royal chase. When the Royal jackpot
has gotten up 40% or more from the starting 4000 units, I occasionally join The Chase.
This can a fun pursuit, if you hit enough quads along the way to nourish your credit
bankroll.

If I am noticing myself wishing I was playing some other game or some other machine in
the casino, I don't like that inner voice distraction, so I act on it fairly quickly. I don't have
A.D.D. at all, in fact I'm a very patient person. But I do constantly seek that magic session
where my fingers are holding the cards seemingly on their own, my mind is perfectly
content and my body is relaxed, flushes fill in, full houses fill up more than they are
statistically supposed to, I keep getting quads and I say to myself, I'll cash out if my cred
total gets down to $300, then $350, then $400, but it never goes lower! I keep setting
cash out points, yet my credits climb and climb.

And I never hear the P.A. announcer pop my bubble with, "Will the owner of a Gray SUV,
Nevada license plate number ***-*** please call the hotel operator." And the waitress is
beautiful and makes my drink order a double, and makes long eye contact and SMILES.
And, and, well, you know ...... We're here to gamble.

Thanks for the 'softball' question, cardman. Ya got me thinkin' again.

~MARK

--- "cacardman" wrote:

···

Mark,
I enjoyed your summary. I am fairly new at VP and have a question for
you. Why do you play so many different types of games? After a while
does each game get boring? JOB is boring to me, but for right now DW
and DB is enough to keep me thinking which cards to keep for which
game I am playing. Thinks---cardman

Mark, thanks for getting back to me. You did answer the question about
how long you sit at a machine. I thought how can someone sit more than
a couple of hours or so at the same machine. I play at Reno every
other week. A tip at the Pep, bring your I-pod to combat the bad
music! ---cardman

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark_my_words_again@...>
wrote:

Well, first of all, cardman, almost everyone has asked me the same

question at one point

or another. So, good question. I'm trying to play longer game &

machine sessions, at the

very least to make my trip reports easier to follow <grin>.

I am confident enough with the stategies of the games I play to

play them at 800-1000

hands per hour. I am able to switch games without confusion on the

strategy. Maybe I'm

smart, or maybe I'm deluding myself with this statement, but it's my

comfort zone and it's

my bankroll. I probably play an intermediate strategy - with no

nod to penalty cards,

which I practice at home on my Mac. I am not a slave to certain

games, I enjoy the variety

and I average 10-12 hrs a day on VP on trips to the casino.

I make a play plan before I am in the casino, and I tailor the plan

to the casino inventory

and my game preferences. I am still struggling to follow these

plans better - When I'm

plus money I should be playing 25c denom.

One sequence is non-wild card games: I play Bonus poker (preferring

ACE$BP or a prog) or

JoB with Prog(s) until I lose a few hundred, then I move to DDB

(again preferring 10/6 and

Progs). Sometimes I switch between the two, if I am losing in DDB,

the switch back to

getting 2-1 for two pair helps my mood and often helps my bankroll.

If things aren't going well or I need a change of pace, I'll play

Wild card games. FPDeuces

and Kings or Better Joker Wild are my preferences and I again am

comfortable with the

strategies to play fast. I'm slightly less practiced at NSUD, but I

will play it.

I'm sure when I play $1 or higher denomination that I am

over-extending my limited

budget (which is about $800 per day), but when I move up in denom,

it is usually just until

I hit a bonus quads or higher and recoup my lower denom losses.

While I prefer FullPay games, I'm no "FP snob" (not being derogatory

at all- to each his

own!). I also don't play DB at all, it's strategy is difficult and

in my opinion, too different

to the other bonus type games I play.
I have been dabbling with TBP+, SDDB, TDB and the like, but I am not

practiced in their

strategies, so I tend to play them like DDB and I keep sessions

short and play 25c or 50c

denom for these "exotics".

I rarely have more than a half hour session on any one game or

machine, I've noticed. I'm

not sure the reason, there are probably dozens of reasons.

Environment is often the first

reason, which includes obnoxious neighbors, poor wait service, noise

and annoying music,

and imperfect machine operation. Hitting my session win goal,

usually $100 profit, or

losing my session loss limit is another reason. My limits are $100

@ 25c, $200 @ 50c,

and $3-400 @ $1 denom.

I rarely get moody about a game, I do not to sit there hoping for a

certain draw card or

cards every single hand. I find that hoping too hard is a big brain

and energy drain. Rather,

I'm just making the correct hold and letting the draw happen. Unless

I score quads or

better, and I take a moment to scribble the amount down on my index

card, I hold down

the deal button so the winning credits zip into my total and

double-clutch the deal button

again for my new hand. I am definitely not going to let the credits

go thru their song,

even for quads, in some useless attempt to impress my neighboring

players. I'm sure full

houses or sometimes flushes at the higher denoms give me an

ever-so-slight surge of

pleasure, but it's always On to the Next Hand, in the hunt for the

trophy Royal.

One exception to my short sessions is the Progressive Royal chase.

When the Royal jackpot

has gotten up 40% or more from the starting 4000 units, I

occasionally join The Chase.

This can a fun pursuit, if you hit enough quads along the way to

nourish your credit

bankroll.

If I am noticing myself wishing I was playing some other game or

some other machine in

the casino, I don't like that inner voice distraction, so I act on

it fairly quickly. I don't have

A.D.D. at all, in fact I'm a very patient person. But I do

constantly seek that magic session

where my fingers are holding the cards seemingly on their own, my

mind is perfectly

content and my body is relaxed, flushes fill in, full houses fill up

more than they are

statistically supposed to, I keep getting quads and I say to

myself, I'll cash out if my cred

total gets down to $300, then $350, then $400, but it never goes

lower! I keep setting

cash out points, yet my credits climb and climb.

And I never hear the P.A. announcer pop my bubble with, "Will the

owner of a Gray SUV,

Nevada license plate number ***-*** please call the hotel operator."

And the waitress is

beautiful and makes my drink order a double, and makes long eye

contact and SMILES.

···

And, and, well, you know ...... We're here to gamble.

Thanks for the 'softball' question, cardman. Ya got me thinkin' again.

~MARK

--- "cacardman" wrote:
>
> Mark,
> I enjoyed your summary. I am fairly new at VP and have a question for
> you. Why do you play so many different types of games? After a while
> does each game get boring? JOB is boring to me, but for right now DW
> and DB is enough to keep me thinking which cards to keep for which
> game I am playing. Thinks---cardman

I thought how can someone sit more than a couple of hours or so at

the same machine.

A catheter and "no-doze". Maybe a trucker's "donut" seat cushion if
you suffer from 'roids.

> I also don't play DB at all, it's strategy is difficult and
> in my opinion, too different
> to the other bonus type games I play.

If you play FPDB with FPJOB strategy, the return is about the same,
around 99.5%. Think of it like a different version of Bonus Deluxe or
Super Double Bonus or Super Aces Bonus.

···

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "cacardman" <cacardman@...> wrote:

I play db 10/7 . Am I not correct that it is 100.173 return? A
catheter would be a great help. I live WAY up in the mountains and am
always looking for a tree.----cardman

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
<nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

···

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "cacardman" <cacardman@> wrote:
> I thought how can someone sit more than a couple of hours or so at
the same machine.

A catheter and "no-doze". Maybe a trucker's "donut" seat cushion if
you suffer from 'roids.

> > I also don't play DB at all, it's strategy is difficult and
> > in my opinion, too different
> > to the other bonus type games I play.

If you play FPDB with FPJOB strategy, the return is about the same,
around 99.5%. Think of it like a different version of Bonus Deluxe or
Super Double Bonus or Super Aces Bonus.

Sure, that's the mathematical average return, if you play computer
perfect "Bob Dancer" class strategy and never make a mistake and don't
play on defective (sticky keys?) or gaffed or "Class II" machines.

···

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "cacardman" <cacardman@...> wrote:

I play db 10/7 . Am I not correct that it is 100.173 return?