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Majestic Star

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Trump is not so bad for single line play. About 70 quarter, 30-$1 and five 5c games with 9-5 TP+ (99.803%) and NSUD. No single line quarter at MS offers better than 9-6 jacks currently. (MS has one 45 coin nickel game with 20-10-6-5 joker two pair which if you play 25 coins would be the equivalent to a quarter game.) They have NSUD on triple play 25c and dollar also but they are the old non TITO games. I consider Trump the second best VP house in the Chicago Area. The bad side is that their policy on bounceback appears to be to give anybody who wins next to nothing and to give more to losers.

As to OEJW, the 4 of a kind accounts for over 30% of the payback so if you are short quaded (about once every 50 hands is average) you will get killed.
Also, even though I have been given an excellent strategy chart for OEJW, I find it very hard to play accurately. I also get frustrated when I get to hold a single middle card too much of the time. I consider that game to be more volatile than the other games I play. (See the comments currently going around VPfree about variance.)

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----- Original Message -----
From: vp_nbi
To: vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 6/25/2004 12:34:08 AM
Subject: [vpFREE_Chicago] Re: Majestic Star

--- In vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern"
<howard.w.stern@e...> wrote:

One screwy situation, I saw a number of years ago was that Harrah's

E. Chicago had a bank of $1 DB machines with no posted pay table below
4 of a kind. These old IGT slant tops often have a strip attached to
the top of the glass at other houses (including Harrah's Joliet) to
show the pay table because the game had insufficient lines available
to display the DB pay table. Other games at that house for deuces were
likewise but for those, I asked the house to toggle the pay table to
be visible. I have seen that situation at Harrah's St. Louis also.

That's actually quite common with the older vp machines found
predominantly in downtown Las Vegas. I will no longer give these
places any action as these machines are simply too slow.

Note: There is no excuse for the house not properly maintaining

their equipment. Don and Mikes gets so little play compared to the
rest of that house.

And they may get even less play in the future if OEJ continues to
consistently produce deals all day long that consist of at most 2
cards of the same suit. :slight_smile:
Although I caught a Royal in 5-Play NSUD today, it was not enough to
dent the deficit racked up by a day of getting nothing in OEJ.

BTW, I finally got around to stopping at Trump to check out their vp.
I don't think I ever saw more trash assembled in one place. Sure, they
have new games, but at completely outrageous pay tables. People would
be better off to just mail a cheque to Trump and play WinPoker vp on
their home PC! :slight_smile:

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--- In vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern"
<howard.w.stern@e...> wrote:

Trump is not so bad for single line play. About 70 quarter, 30-$1

and five 5c games with 9-5 TP+ (99.803%) and NSUD. No single line
quarter at MS offers better than 9-6 jacks currently. (MS has one 45
coin nickel game with 20-10-6-5 joker two pair which if you play 25
coins would be the equivalent to a quarter game.) They have NSUD on
triple play 25c and dollar also but they are the old non TITO games. I
consider Trump the second best VP house in the Chicago Area. The bad
side is that their policy on bounceback appears to be to give anybody
who wins next to nothing and to give more to losers.

Single line play along with nonexistant cashback? No thanks. I do
confess to having fed a $20 into a Spin-Poker machine though. I wasn't
expecting to make money, this was strictly for entertainment. Although
I was quite successful playing it at Santa Fe Station in Vegas - put
in $20 took out $520 courtesy of several Royals and despite a
miserable Illinois Deuces paytable. Pity it can't be found around here
with a reasonable paytable.

As to OEJW, the 4 of a kind accounts for over 30% of the payback so

if you are short quaded (about once every 50 hands is average) you
will get killed.

Also, even though I have been given an excellent strategy chart for

OEJW, I find it very hard to play accurately. I also get frustrated
when I get to hold a single middle card too much of the time. I
consider that game to be more volatile than the other games I play.
(See the comments currently going around VPfree about variance.)

You hit the nail right on the head about being short quaded. Yesterday
I saw very few and only a single straight flush all day. That just
doesn't work.

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----- Original Message -----
From: vp_nbi
To: vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 6/25/2004 12:34:08 AM
Subject: [vpFREE_Chicago] Re: Majestic Star

--- In vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern"
<howard.w.stern@e...> wrote:
> One screwy situation, I saw a number of years ago was that Harrah's
E. Chicago had a bank of $1 DB machines with no posted pay table below
4 of a kind. These old IGT slant tops often have a strip attached to
the top of the glass at other houses (including Harrah's Joliet) to
show the pay table because the game had insufficient lines available
to display the DB pay table. Other games at that house for deuces were
likewise but for those, I asked the house to toggle the pay table to
be visible. I have seen that situation at Harrah's St. Louis also.

That's actually quite common with the older vp machines found
predominantly in downtown Las Vegas. I will no longer give these
places any action as these machines are simply too slow.

> Note: There is no excuse for the house not properly maintaining
their equipment. Don and Mikes gets so little play compared to the
rest of that house.

And they may get even less play in the future if OEJ continues to
consistently produce deals all day long that consist of at most 2
cards of the same suit. :slight_smile:
Although I caught a Royal in 5-Play NSUD today, it was not enough to
dent the deficit racked up by a day of getting nothing in OEJ.

BTW, I finally got around to stopping at Trump to check out their vp.
I don't think I ever saw more trash assembled in one place. Sure, they
have new games, but at completely outrageous pay tables. People would
be better off to just mail a cheque to Trump and play WinPoker vp on
their home PC! :slight_smile:

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