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Machine CLOSURE - what exactly is this?

Triple Play Progressive (.25c machine) went up to over $11,000.00
last week. A couple of the players started talking about "Did you
close it?". Later in the evening, I saw a couple of the machines
with the word "CLOSURE" at the bottom of the screen. What does this
mean? If a player can set this up, is it okay to do? My guess is
that it prevents others to play on those machines.
If this locks the machine temporarily, how do you unlock it?

gilbert_616wrote:

Triple Play Progressive (.25c machine) went up to over $11,000.00
last week. A couple of the players started talking about "Did you
close it?". Later in the evening, I saw a couple of the machines
with the word "CLOSURE" at the bottom of the screen. What does this
mean? If a player can set this up, is it okay to do?

The "CLOSURE" indicator is unrelated to what the players were
referring to. It usually indicates that the machine had been opened
for servicing (hopper fill, coin jam, etc.) and hasn't been played
since. The indicator clears with the first bet.

What the players were likely discussing was the courtesy some casinos
extend to a player who's been active at a machine for an extended
length of time (say, at least 2 or 3 hours). Some casinos will
inactivate a machine ("shut down" or "close down") to permit them time
to take a meal break, reserving it for the player's return.

Policies vary widely as to when this might be done (if at all) and for
how long. Players who are allowed to shut down a machine should
treat the privilege, and other players who might want to play the
machine, with respect.

On more than one occasion I've wanted to take a battle axe to a player
who had a highly sought after machine shut down for up to 3 hours (or
more) and then was seen to return to play just 15 minutes and then
walked away (or worse yet, never returned to the machine at all).

- Harry

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...>
wrote:

gilbert_616wrote:
> Triple Play Progressive (.25c machine) went up to over $11,000.00
> last week. A couple of the players started talking about "Did

you

> close it?". Later in the evening, I saw a couple of the machines
> with the word "CLOSURE" at the bottom of the screen. What does

this

> mean? If a player can set this up, is it okay to do?

The "CLOSURE" indicator is unrelated to what the players were
referring to. It usually indicates that the machine had been opened
for servicing (hopper fill, coin jam, etc.) and hasn't been played
since. The indicator clears with the first bet.

What the players were likely discussing was the courtesy some

casinos

extend to a player who's been active at a machine for an extended
length of time (say, at least 2 or 3 hours). Some casinos will
inactivate a machine ("shut down" or "close down") to permit them

time

to take a meal break, reserving it for the player's return.

Policies vary widely as to when this might be done (if at all) and

for

how long. Players who are allowed to shut down a machine should
treat the privilege, and other players who might want to play the
machine, with respect.

On more than one occasion I've wanted to take a battle axe to a

player

who had a highly sought after machine shut down for up to 3 hours

(or

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more) and then was seen to return to play just 15 minutes and then
walked away (or worse yet, never returned to the machine at all).

- Harry

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Thanks again Harry!

Many casinos only offer "turn down" service on machines to premium
players (i.e., Harrah's will generally only do it for Diamond holders)
and further, in my experience, it's rare that a casino will "turn down"
a progressive or a super-popular machine for any player.

It seems you would mainly request this service on a progressive. There
wouldn't be much need to request it otherwise unless there are only a
few machines that you really like to play for some reason and want to
save one.

Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: John F. Thomas, Jr., Esq. [mailto:jfthom…@…net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:11 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Machine CLOSURE - what exactly is this?

Many casinos only offer "turn down" service on machines to premium
players (i.e., Harrah's will generally only do it for Diamond holders)
and further, in my experience, it's rare that a casino will "turn down"
a progressive or a super-popular machine for any player.

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S, like having $1k on credit meter prior to dinner???CD

It seems you would mainly request this service on a progressive.

There

wouldn't be much need to request it otherwise unless there are only

a

few machines that you really like to play for some reason and want

to

save one.

Scot

From: John F. Thomas, Jr., Esq. [mailto:jfthomas3@c…]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:11 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Machine CLOSURE - what exactly is this?

Many casinos only offer "turn down" service on machines to premium
players (i.e., Harrah's will generally only do it for Diamond

holders)

and further, in my experience, it's rare that a casino will "turn

down"

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- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@w...> wrote:

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a progressive or a super-popular machine for any player.

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Geez! Cash it out!
Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: crazydonconcepts [mailto:crazydonconce…@…net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:09 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Machine CLOSURE - what exactly is this?

S, like having $1k on credit meter prior to dinner???CD
- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@w…> wrote:

It seems you would mainly request this service on a progressive.

There

wouldn't be much need to request it otherwise unless there are only

a

few machines that you really like to play for some reason and want

to

save one.

Scot

I think I saw this done at the Palms while the DW progressive was
particularly juicy in early October. The opportunity was sweet but I
wouldn't have been so bummed if I could only have remembered where the
other FPDWs were.
Chandler

"...there is always a well-known solution to every human problem--neat,
plausible, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:00:11 -0800, you wrote:

It seems you would mainly request this service on a progressive. There
wouldn't be much need to request it otherwise unless there are only a
few machines that you really like to play for some reason and want to
save one.

S, playing 5 hrs , have $2500 in! Why ya think you got the $200 comp
and the good 'chine locked up for 3 hrs?CD--

Geez! Cash it out!
Scot

From: crazydonconcepts [mailto:crazydonconcepts@e…]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:09 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Machine CLOSURE - what exactly is this?

S, like having $1k on credit meter prior to dinner???CD
- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@w…>

wrote:

> It seems you would mainly request this service on a progressive.
There
> wouldn't be much need to request it otherwise unless there are

only

a
> few machines that you really like to play for some reason and

want

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- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@w...> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
to
> save one.
>
> Scot

It seems you would mainly request this service on a progressive. There
wouldn't be much need to request it otherwise unless there are only a
few machines that you really like to play for some reason and want to
save one.

Outside of Las Vegas, you might only find 5 or 6 "good" (i.e., full-pay or
close) machines in a casino.. and then the one on the end has a broken seat,
and the one in the middle has a glare on the screen and the air conditioning
blows right on your head, and the third one from the left has a broken "bet
max" button, etc. At least around here in AC, once you can get at the maybe
one or two good machines on the property, you can be loath to give it up
just for dinner.

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