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LVSun - Station Casinos claims key patent victory
For once I agree with Stations. I'm surprised Harrahs got a patent
in the first place, for what sounds like an obvious extension of the
already commonplace casino-wide players club idea ... but I'm no
patent expert.
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For once I agree with Stations. I'm surprised Harrahs got a patent
in the first place, for what sounds like an obvious extension of
the
already commonplace casino-wide players club idea ... but I'm no
patent expert.
It gets down to whether or not it's considered "new". Patents that
are extensions to previous ideas are quite commonplace. Sounds like
Harrahs' patent was quite specific in the patent in that it specified
the communications mechansim, etc.
Dick
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Harrah's is an evil empire.
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For once I agree with Stations. I'm surprised Harrahs got a
patent
in the first place, for what sounds like an obvious extension of
the
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already commonplace casino-wide players club idea ... but I'm no
patent expert.
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> For once I agree with Stations. I'm surprised Harrahs got a patent
> in the first place, for what sounds like an obvious extension of
the
> already commonplace casino-wide players club idea ... but I'm no
> patent expert.It gets down to whether or not it's considered "new". Patents that
are extensions to previous ideas are quite commonplace. Sounds like
Harrahs' patent was quite specific in the patent in that it specified
the communications mechansim, etc.
I don't know much about patents either (it's a special area of law with it's own bar exam and license) but I was at least under the impression that it had something to do with developing new _technology_ of some sort, and not just new marketing appoaches, which is what this seemed to me to be. I mean, if I happened to be the first business to put a coupon in the newspaper, could I have patented 'coupons'? Now 'bar coding' and patents for those sorts of things I can understand, along with trademarks and copyrights, but this sounds really bizarre to me.
Bill
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Patents are funny things...
In the early part of the last century Peter DeWitt "invented and patented" a fare
collection systemn for streetcars. This is a fare collection PROCEDURE (pay
as you leave), not a piece of hardware. Every trolley car system in the
country, using that fare collection procedure, had to pay DeWitt royalties.
Go figure!
.....bl
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I don't know much about patents either (it's a special area of law with
it's own bar exam and license) but I was at least under the impression
that it had something to do with developing new _technology_ of some
sort, and not just new marketing appoaches, which is what this seemed to
me to be. I mean, if I happened to be the first business to put a
coupon in the newspaper, could I have patented 'coupons'? Now 'bar
coding' and patents for those sorts of things I can understand, along
with trademarks and copyrights, but this sounds really bizarre to me.Bill
bornloser1537 wrote:
Patents are funny things...
In the early part of the last century Peter DeWitt "invented and patented" a fare
collection systemn for streetcars. This is a fare collection PROCEDURE (pay
as you leave), not a piece of hardware. Every trolley car system in the
country, using that fare collection procedure, had to pay DeWitt royalties.
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Heh, heh. I guess if you got on and found out that you had forgotten your money, that you'd have to stay onboard indefinitely until you could borrow the money from someone. 
The question is: is the law intended to be applied that way, or if that just the decision of some idiot judges? (And 'Yes', jurors are not the only folks who sometimes act like idiots when they decide cases.)
Bill
It gets down to whether or not it's considered "new". Patents that
are extensions to previous ideas are quite commonplace. Sounds like
Harrahs' patent was quite specific in the patent in that it
specified the communications mechansim, etc.
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I always thought it had to do more with "improvements" to previous
ideas, as opposed to "extensions" ... evidently it's both.
But I guess Stations is guilty of more or less the same thing. I was
in the Rampart Casino yesterday and saw a "Rampart Special" VP game
(forget the exact name). It was "special" because it offered a
reversible Royal Flush jackpot (10JQKA or AKQJ10). As I understand
it, the Rampart Casino can't say "Reversible Royal Flush" because the
Stations Casinos have copyrighted that terminology. I don't agree
with that kind of copyright because the term "reversible" is too
generic.
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