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#1

In a message dated 11/27/2004 10:57:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jackessiebabe@yahoo.com writes:

This always elicits a big smile and a friendly "Good
Luck" from the recepient. Not to mention, that just about all the
casino employees remember me from trip to trip, and greet me with
genuine warmth. This makes the casino experience much more pleasant
for me.

I'm with you but I think not all of our group, much less all gamblers do as
well for the dealers. I guess it depends on your perspective - if the tip
comes out of your "income," then perhaps it's harder to give it.

Karen

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#2

In a message dated 11/27/2004 10:57:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jackessiebabe@y... writes:

> This always elicits a big smile and a friendly "Good
> Luck" from the recepient. Not to mention, that just about all

the

> casino employees remember me from trip to trip, and greet me

with

> genuine warmth. This makes the casino experience much more

pleasant

> for me.
>

I'm with you but I think not all of our group, much less all

gamblers do as

well for the dealers. I guess it depends on your perspective - if

the tip

comes out of your "income," then perhaps it's harder to give it.

Karen
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I'm sure you're quite correct, Karen, in assuming that

players who make their living by gambling, have a harder time doling
out tokes (UNLESS IT'S TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO DO SO) than the
recreational gambler. The "income" derived from gambling, must
stretch to pay for food, rent, and the kid's braces etc.

However, I liken this to eating in a restaurant. If you can't
afford to (or don't want to) reward good service with a tip, I think
you should eat at home. I would apply the same analogy to tipping
casino personnel, when you have good fortune in the casino, and are
paid promptly, with a pleasant smile.

BTW, lest anyone think that I am in a service business, I am not. I
merely have sympathy for people who are paid inadequately, through
no fault of their own.

The ideal solution, of course, would be for the casinos (and
restaurants) to pay their employees a living wage. Why this is not
the case, I cannot fathom. The rest of the business world is
required to provide a reasonable salary and benefits. Without this,
they would not be able to attract or keep good employees.

For myself, I know that, as long as I continue to have a vp
bankroll, and enjoy playing the game, that I will also continue to
toke generously.

                Babe

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#3

That makes some sense. Some of the biggest tippers I know are casino
employees. I've never quite figured out if it's because they're
really that generous, or whether they're trying to set an example
trying to encourage other players to tip more. Probably some of both,
I suspect.

As for myself, I tip consistently but lightly. My reasoning is not
that I'm cheap (although I might be), it's simply that my volume is so
high that extra-generous tips would cost me a fortune over time.
Pre-TITO dollar machines usually require a handpay for every $400+
cashout, every set of Aces or Deuces (depending on the game), and
sometimes every set of 2-4's. When I'm $1400 into a machine, tipping
for a $500 cashout or $800 Aces just seems ludicrous. Sometimes I do
it anyway just so I'm not looked on badly at my regular casinos, but
it still doesn't make much fiscal sense. Now if I've got a
significant profit going on that session, it's a different story and
I'll tip more readily.

The implementation of TITO helps, but they still often have the limits
set too low. No single hand under $1200 should ever trigger a
handpay, IMHO (TITO or not).

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@y...> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm sure you're quite correct, Karen, in assuming that
players who make their living by gambling, have a harder time doling
out tokes (UNLESS IT'S TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO DO SO) than the
recreational gambler. The "income" derived from gambling, must
stretch to pay for food, rent, and the kid's braces etc.

However, I liken this to eating in a restaurant. If you can't
afford to (or don't want to) reward good service with a tip, I think
you should eat at home. I would apply the same analogy to tipping
casino personnel, when you have good fortune in the casino, and are
paid promptly, with a pleasant smile.