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LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue

#1

This is very good information.

What should you do if you have a room at the casino that tresspasses you? And in the room a locked safe with valuables?

Karen B

Re: LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue

Posted by: "nightoftheiguana2000" nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com nightoftheiguana2000

You have to assert your civil rights, otherwise they are generally waved. By agreeing to go into a backroom or office, you are pretty much waiving your rights to later sue for false arrest. In my mind, the first issue is do they want your business. If the answer is no, which they have the right under current Nevada law to reject any customer for any reason including race, creed, age, sex or religion, then your next question is what about the comps that are currently on your card and earned from previous play? If they will cash them, fine, if not, call gaming, because gaming will usually defend your right to your earned comps. If they get physical (as minimal as place a hand on you), you may have to assert your right to leave and call gaming from across the street. This happens frequently and a gaming officer can escort you back into a casino to redeem your comps even if you have been trespassed. Otherwise, if they don't want your business, your next step
is to leave. They have no right to detain you unless they are calling the police and pressing charges and if the charges are false, you can sue them for false arrest.<<

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Date: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:57 am ((PDT))

#2

Casino rooms are not very safe, poker players have been robbed in their casino rooms, especially in the big strip casinos. But if you find yourself trespassed with a room, you have the right to recover your belongings. Call gaming if the casino won't let you. Call the police if the room has been broken into or searched and ramshackled or if anything has been stolen. The room safes are not safe, the casino takes no liability for anything stolen from a room safe. You can probably refuse any charges to your credit card on the grounds that they kicked you out, i.e. did not live up to their end of the hotel contract. Inform your credit card company immediately about the situation so they can be prepared for the false charges from the casino that are probably coming. Be on the lookout for identity theft violations if the casino has personal information on you such as a photo of a driver's license. They are responsible for protecting that information.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Karen Beno <karen_beno@...> wrote:

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>>Re: LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue
Posted by: "nightoftheiguana2000" nightoftheiguana2000@... nightoftheiguana2000
Date: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:57 am ((PDT))

You have to assert your civil rights, otherwise they are generally waved. By agreeing to go into a backroom or office, you are pretty much waiving your rights to later sue for false arrest. In my mind, the first issue is do they want your business. If the answer is no, which they have the right under current Nevada law to reject any customer for any reason including race, creed, age, sex or religion, then your next question is what about the comps that are currently on your card and earned from previous play? If they will cash them, fine, if not, call gaming, because gaming will usually defend your right to your earned comps. If they get physical (as minimal as place a hand on you), you may have to assert your right to leave and call gaming from across the street. This happens frequently and a gaming officer can escort you back into a casino to redeem your comps even if you have been trespassed. Otherwise, if they don't want your business, your next step
is to leave. They have no right to detain you unless they are calling the police and pressing charges and if the charges are false, you can sue them for false arrest.<<

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#3

Juries have been extremely sympathetic to customers in this situation. Casino security may not have always treated me as well as they could have, but I've never lost property because of it. Maids have taken more from my rooms than they have.

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----- Karen Beno <karen_beno@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

This is very good information.

What should you do if you have a room at the casino that tresspasses you? And in the room a locked safe with valuables?

Karen B

>>Re: LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue

Posted by: "nightoftheiguana2000" nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com nightoftheiguana2000

Date: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:57 am ((PDT))

You have to assert your civil rights, otherwise they are generally waved. By agreeing to go into a backroom or office, you are pretty much waiving your rights to later sue for false arrest. In my mind, the first issue is do they want your business. If the answer is no, which they have the right under current Nevada law to reject any customer for any reason including race, creed, age, sex or religion, then your next question is what about the comps that are currently on your card and earned from previous play? If they will cash them, fine, if not, call gaming, because gaming will usually defend your right to your earned comps. If they get physical (as minimal as place a hand on you), you may have to assert your right to leave and call gaming from across the street. This happens frequently and a gaming officer can escort you back into a casino to redeem your comps even if you have been trespassed. Otherwise, if they don't want your business, your next step

is to leave. They have no right to detain you unless they are calling the police and pressing charges and if the charges are false, you can sue them for false arrest.<<

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#4

I would think that if they were tossing you it would only be from the casino
and not the hotel. If both, then I would think a police escort to your room
to retrieve your possessions would be in order.

This is very good information.

What should you do if you have a room at the casino that tresspasses you?
And in the room a locked safe with valuables?

Karen B

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#5

If you are trespassed from the property, that generally includes the hotel desk and elevators and parking garage and anything else on casino property, possibly also the sidewalks if they are private property. There was at least one case of a gambler who was jumped by security while he was on the sidewalk thinking he was outside of the property. If you are only trespassed from the casino floor or from any gambling activity, that could be a fine line that allows access to other stuff on the property. Of course the casino employee who told you that you were only trespassed from the casino floor could later lie and say he told you it was from anything on the property. Casinos are dangerous places, many down and out gamblers think they have the right to get cash to support their habits by any means necessary and casinos hire ex-cons, in the case of Jerry's Nugget the general manager is technically not an ex-con since he was never even charged, but he admitted to cheating a casino. Isn't it nice to know that in Nevada a person who cheats a casino can get a second chance and get his gaming license back if he's "redeemed" (contributed to the appropriate "charities")?

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/article/jerrys-nugget-executive-has-gaming-license-restored-55874
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/interviewRC.htm

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa" <viajo1964@...> wrote:

I would think that if they were tossing you it would only be from the casino
and not the hotel. If both, then I would think a police escort to your room
to retrieve your possessions would be in order.

This is very good information.

What should you do if you have a room at the casino that tresspasses you?
And in the room a locked safe with valuables?

Karen B

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#6

Isn't it nice to know that in Nevada a person who cheats a casino can get a second chance and get his gaming license back if he's "redeemed" (contributed to the appropriate "charities")?

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/article/jerrys-nugget-executive-has-gaming-license-restored-55874

I'm sorry, but I can't help conjuring up images of myself xeroxing this article and putting it on every car's windshield in the Jerry's Nugget parking lot. Of course, I'd probably want to wear my running shoes.

Just kidding, Angelo! Just a joke, heh! Oh I crack myself up sometimes.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

#7

Ok.but then the police escort to your lawful belongings should come into
play I would think?

If you are trespassed from the property, that generally includes the hotel
desk and elevators and parking garage and anything else on casino property,
possibly also the sidewalks if they are private property. There was at least
one case of a gambler who was jumped by security while he was on the
sidewalk thinking he was outside of the property. If you are only trespassed
from the casino floor or from any gambling activity, that could be a fine
line that allows access to other stuff on the property. Of course the casino
employee who told you that you were only trespassed from the casino floor
could later lie and say he told you it was from anything on the property.
Casinos are dangerous places, many down and out gamblers think they have the
right to get cash to support their habits by any means necessary and casinos
hire ex-cons, in the case of Jerry's Nugget the general manager is
technically not an ex-con since he was never even charged, but he admitted
to cheating a casino. Isn't it nice to know that in Nevada a person who
cheats a casino can get a second chance and get his gaming license back if
he's "redeemed" (contributed to the appropriate "charities")?

.

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#8

How does one get robbed while "in the room"?
Lock the door, activate the deadbolt and you will not be robbed.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

Casino rooms are not very safe, poker players have been robbed in their casino rooms,> >

#9

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article/poker-champ-recalls-attempted-robbery-151334

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
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> Casino rooms are not very safe, poker players have been robbed in their casino rooms,> >
>

How does one get robbed while "in the room"?
Lock the door, activate the deadbolt and you will not be robbed.

#10

That's precisely why I never have $150,000 in cash or chips on me at any time.

Well, that and the fact that I've never had that kind of cash or chips in the first place.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:56:08 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article/poker-champ-recalls-attempted-robbery-151334

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
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> Casino rooms are not very safe, poker players have been robbed in their casino rooms,> >
>

How does one get robbed while "in the room"?
Lock the door, activate the deadbolt and you will not be robbed.

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