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LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue

#1

They said they were taking me into the CM's office to p/u the letter they had for me. You can't be argumentative and the smart move is to stay calm and cooperative. It really seemed like the dummy security guards were hoping I gave them trouble. The incident was written up in my Gaming Today article, the casino complained about my version, then it ended. I feel like I won.

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From: "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com>
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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue
Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 10:34 pm
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:

I've been at a machine when tapped on the shoulder, & taken into an office

I think the lawyers all say that you should never agree to go to any backroom or office out of the public eye and away from cameras. That's usually where the bad stuff happens. If they don't want you to play, ask to cash out your comp and leave. If they won't let you cash out your comp, call gaming. You have their number on your cellphone, right? As long as you haven't committed a felony, they can't detain you, that would be false arrest.

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#2

Any other details or a link to the story?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:

They said they were taking me into the CM's office to p/u the letter they had for me. You can't be argumentative and the smart move is to stay calm and cooperative. It really seemed like the dummy security guards were hoping I gave them trouble. The incident was written up in my Gaming Today article, the casino complained about my version, then it ended. I feel like I won.

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From: "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue
Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 10:34 pm
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111" <rob.singer1111@> wrote:

> I've been at a machine when tapped on the shoulder, & taken into an office

I think the lawyers all say that you should never agree to go to any backroom or office out of the public eye and away from cameras. That's usually where the bad stuff happens. If they don't want you to play, ask to cash out your comp and leave. If they won't let you cash out your comp, call gaming. You have their number on your cellphone, right? As long as you haven't committed a felony, they can't detain you, that would be false arrest.

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#3

Well, if they would be taking me to a back room I would be argumentative in
saying no and calling 911 if they wouldn't cooperate by letting me leave.

They said they were taking me into the CM's office to p/u the letter they
had for me. You can't be argumentative and the smart move is to stay calm
and cooperative. It really seemed like the dummy security guards were hoping
I gave them trouble. The incident was written up in my Gaming Today article,
the casino complained about my version, then it ended. I feel like I won.

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#4

That's approximately what my attorney advises. You might have to be quick to call 911 before they make it physically impossible, but it might be interesting to see what the police do if the detainee has called them before security has. My attorney says that technically, the detainee should be asking the police to arrest the security guards for false imprisonment.

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----- Lisa <viajo1964@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, if they would be taking me to a back room I would be argumentative in

saying no and calling 911 if they wouldn't cooperate by letting me leave.

They said they were taking me into the CM's office to p/u the letter they

had for me. You can't be argumentative and the smart move is to stay calm

and cooperative. It really seemed like the dummy security guards were hoping

I gave them trouble. The incident was written up in my Gaming Today article,

the casino complained about my version, then it ended. I feel like I won.

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#5

You have to assert your civil rights, otherwise they are generally waved. By agreeing to go into a backroom or office, you are pretty much waiving your rights to later sue for false arrest. In my mind, the first issue is do they want your business. If the answer is no, which they have the right under current Nevada law to reject any customer for any reason including race, creed, age, sex or religion, then your next question is what about the comps that are currently on your card and earned from previous play? If they will cash them, fine, if not, call gaming, because gaming will usually defend your right to your earned comps. If they get physical (as minimal as place a hand on you), you may have to assert your right to leave and call gaming from across the street. This happens frequently and a gaming officer can escort you back into a casino to redeem your comps even if you have been trespassed. Otherwise, if they don't want your business, your next step is to leave. They have no right to detain you unless they are calling the police and pressing charges and if the charges are false, you can sue them for false arrest.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:

They said they were taking me into the CM's office to p/u the letter they had for me. You can't be argumentative and the smart move is to stay calm and cooperative. It really seemed like the dummy security guards were hoping I gave them trouble. The incident was written up in my Gaming Today article, the casino complained about my version, then it ended. I feel like I won.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: LVSun: Lawsuits pile up as alleged casino assaults continue
Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 10:34 pm
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111" <rob.singer1111@> wrote:

> I've been at a machine when tapped on the shoulder, & taken into an office

I think the lawyers all say that you should never agree to go to any backroom or office out of the public eye and away from cameras. That's usually where the bad stuff happens. If they don't want you to play, ask to cash out your comp and leave. If they won't let you cash out your comp, call gaming. You have their number on your cellphone, right? As long as you haven't committed a felony, they can't detain you, that would be false arrest.

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#6

You have to assert your civil rights, otherwise they are generally waved.

Pretty sure this is not true.

By agreeing to go into a backroom or office, you are pretty much waiving your rights to later sue for false arrest.

Pretty sure this is not true.

... they have the right under current Nevada law to reject any customer for any reason including race, creed, age, sex or religion, ...

Pretty sure this is not true.

... gaming will usually defend your right to your earned comps.

Pretty sure this is not true.

The rest of the information, though, golden.

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On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM, nightoftheiguana2000 <nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

#7

I think it's all in Nersesian's "Beat the Players" but I don't have page numbers to cite.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, King Fish <vpkingfish@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM, nightoftheiguana2000 > <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

> You have to assert your civil rights, otherwise they are generally waved.

Pretty sure this is not true.

> By agreeing to go into a backroom or office, you are pretty much waiving your rights to later sue for false arrest.

Pretty sure this is not true.

> ... they have the right under current Nevada law to reject any customer for any reason including race, creed, age, sex or religion, ...

Pretty sure this is not true.

> ... gaming will usually defend your right to your earned comps.

Pretty sure this is not true.

The rest of the information, though, golden.