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LVRJ - EDITORIAL: 'Advantage' gamblers

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Calling this guy an "advantage" gambler is employing a bit of a euphemism.

What he engaged in was the equivalent of shopping in a store with a
self-serve checkout, finding a $100 item mistakenly marked for a $1
and walking out with 7 cases at the "discount" price (plus a boatload
of trading stamps :).

Not a crook I guess, but definitely involving considerably less
integrity than the typical "advantage" player employs. (Not that they
wouldn't engage in the behavior given the opportunity :).

The salient details were reported in the LV Sun (I think linked here
earlier):

Bernier's problems began on opening night at the Resort at Summerlin.

He noticed a bank of slot machines where the payouts for the $100
machines and $1 machines had been mistakenly reversed. Over the course
of several hours, he won $27,000 in cash and comps by collecting $100
machine payoffs from the $1 machines.

- Harry

That may well be a correct analogy, but it still doesn't justify the response.
The proper response would have been to revoke the comps, and possibly bar the player. Anything beyond that is illegal, in my not so humble opinion.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Harry Porter
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:56 AM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Re: LVRJ - EDITORIAL: 'Advantage' gamblers

  > http://tinyurl.com/ge03

  Calling this guy an "advantage" gambler is employing a bit of a euphemism.

  What he engaged in was the equivalent of shopping in a store with a
  self-serve checkout, finding a $100 item mistakenly marked for a $1
  and walking out with 7 cases at the "discount" price (plus a boatload
  of trading stamps :).

  Not a crook I guess, but definitely involving considerably less
  integrity than the typical "advantage" player employs. (Not that they
  wouldn't engage in the behavior given the opportunity :).

  The salient details were reported in the LV Sun (I think linked here
  earlier):

  Bernier's problems began on opening night at the Resort at Summerlin.

  He noticed a bank of slot machines where the payouts for the $100
  machines and $1 machines had been mistakenly reversed. Over the course
  of several hours, he won $27,000 in cash and comps by collecting $100
  machine payoffs from the $1 machines.

  - Harry

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Albert Pearson wrote:

That may well be a correct analogy, but it still doesn't justify the
response.

No argument from me, and I should have indicated as much in my post.

But I hope you'll forgive me if I say that this guy sure opened the
door for the initial abuse (although they clearly were willing to
continue to harrass him at his home later).

Keep in mind the situation looks like they filled a $1 hopper with
$100 tokens. Bet you this guy initially played off a couple of
twenties and cashed out. Can you imagine the look on his face?

Ok, the guy cleaned up, ultimately cashing out a total of 170 credits.
(Can't help to wonder if he fed in and cashed out at least a couple
of additional twenties, perhaps playing a hand on each so as not to be
too conspicuous :).

Now, I may be mistaken but if you walked out of a casino with $17,000
of ill gotten gains, wouldn't you run as fast as you could and never
look back?

But what does this joker do? He returns two nights later, presumably
to try his luck again. Like a guy who runs up $10K in comps isn't
going to trigger a host itching to latch onto him -- that is, until
they scrutinize his play a little more closely. (Can you imagine when
they dropped the bill acceptor and tried to reconcile receipts against
the machine records? Betcha that crew clocked some overtime.

Sorry, they would have caught up to this guy eventually (after all,
this guy was fool enough to keep playing with his slot card in the
reader), but I simply don't have much respect for outright greed.

- Harry