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LVA Question of the Day - 23 JAN 2009

#1

The last jackpot I hit, I gave .8% of my jackpot to the people who brought the cash, because they were especially nice. I tip the waitresses in the club $2 per person. I don't order drinks while playing.

But I have to admit that I think back to the tips that I have given to the money deliverers, and feel very foolish. They don't work for tips. They earn a decent salary.

I delivered newspapers during my high school years, so I've been on both ends of the tipping side. About half of the customers gave tips.

I think that the cleaning person that wipes down your machine, or cleans the areas between the machines deserves a tip more than the people who deliver the money. Last time I went, I gave a tip to one of these cleaning person. She was so surprised because nobody ever thinks of her. Why don't Bob Dancer and Jean Frugal mention the cleaning lady?

The answer is because there is nothing in it for them. Why tip a dealer? The answer is tat if you do, sometimes they will make a "mistake" in your favor if you do. In other words, you are bribing them in advance to chea for you.

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#2

"I think that the cleaning person that wipes down your machine, or cleans the areas between the machines deserves a tip more than the people who deliver the money. Last time I went, I gave a tip to one of these cleaning person. She was so surprised because nobody ever thinks of her. Why don't Bob Dancer and Jean Frugal mention the cleaning lady?"

It's funny you would say that. The last time I was Green Valley Ranch I was having a good night and gave the cleaning lady who was cleaning the machines a ten dollar tip. Her happiness was worth a lot, it was so unexpected. I like to do that sort of thing for those people as well as the people who are taking care of the restrooms.

Valerie

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#3

Valerie,
you are absolutely right, and I'm a bit embarrassed that I've never thought about the cleaning people in the casino proper before.
I always leave $1 for the restroom attendant if there's one present, and very often tip the cleanup people in the lounge directly, in addition to the waitperson.

But one group that I think people tend to stiff are the waitstaff in buffets. My admittedly unscientific observation is that probably 1/3rd of people seem to leave no tip at all for them. While some might say that they don't deserve a full 15-20% like those in a full-service restaurant, c'mon folks, at least leave a couple of bucks for those that bring your beverages and clean off the tables while you're getting your 17th dessert.

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From: Valerie Pollard <vpollard@socal.rr.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:48:49 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: LVA Question of the Day - 23 JAN 2009

"I think that the cleaning person that wipes down your machine, or cleans the areas between the machines deserves a tip more than the people who deliver the money. Last time I went, I gave a tip to one of these cleaning person. She was so surprised because nobody ever thinks of her. Why don't Bob Dancer and Jean Frugal mention the cleaning lady?"

It's funny you would say that. The last time I was Green Valley Ranch I was having a good night and gave the cleaning lady who was cleaning the machines a ten dollar tip. Her happiness was worth a lot, it was so unexpected. I like to do that sort of thing for those people as well as the people who are taking care of the restrooms.

Valerie

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#4

I have often thot about these same cleaning people as we discuss to the 9th degree
about tipping on a jackpot. A buck to these cleaning people as well as those that
clean the bathroom (would YOU clean a public bathroom???) is really appreciated.
It is fun to see their eyes light up when they aren't expecting it. . . . . . Maybe others
think that "that is their job" and so it is---but I really appreciate how clean THEY keep
the machines and restrooms. Just a thot. . . . . .

Jean H--

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go.... Dr. Seuss

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From: Valerie Pollard <vpollard@socal.rr.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:48:49 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: LVA Question of the Day - 23 JAN 2009

"I think that the cleaning person that wipes down your machine, or cleans the areas between the machines deserves a tip more than the people who deliver the money. Last time I went, I gave a tip to one of these cleaning person. She was so surprised because nobody ever thinks of her. Why don't Bob Dancer and Jean Frugal mention the cleaning lady?"

It's funny you would say that. The last time I was Green Valley Ranch I was having a good night and gave the cleaning lady who was cleaning the machines a ten dollar tip. Her happiness was worth a lot, it was so unexpected. I like to do that sort of thing for those people as well as the people who are taking care of the restrooms.

Valerie

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#5

<<I think that the cleaning person that wipes down your machine, or cleans the areas between the machines deserves a tip more than the people who deliver the money. Last time I went, I gave a tip to one of these cleaning person. She was so surprised because nobody ever thinks of her. Why don't Bob Dancer and Jean Frugal mention the cleaning lady? The answer is because there is nothing in it for them. Why tip a dealer? The answer is tat if you do, sometimes they will make a "mistake" in your favor if you do. In other words, you are bribing them in advance to cheat for you.>>

From "More Frugal Gambling," where there is a whole chapter on tipping.

"We like this spread-it-around idea even for major jackpot tipping. In some casinos where we play often, we know what system the employees have concerning tips they receive. Some keep all their own tips, but in many places there are sharing arrangements. However, we usually ignore this factor when we hit a big jackpot and just try to share our happiness with as many employees as we can. I don't really care that the casino rotates the change people to do handpays; I do not like to give one big tip to a change person I have never seen before he/she arrives to count out my stack of hundred dollar bills. So if I plan to tip $40-$50 for this big jackpot, I will give the hand payer only $20 and then see how far I can spread joy by offering $5 to everyone who shows up - floor people, supervisors, security, whoever. Some may not be allowed by casino policy to accept tips, but they are happy I offered. Whatever tip money is left over, I distribute to other employees who have made my day pleasant - the hard-working porter that keeps our machine area clean, the bathroom attendant who always has a cheerful greeting for me, the cocktail waitress who will bring me hot tea AND a bottle of water at the same time, the friendly change girl who has been rooting for a jackpot on my machine all day.

            "This spread-it-around system, especially in a casino where you play frequently, can give you a very generous reputation at the same time you are staying well within your tipping budget."

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________________
Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://lasvegasadvisor.com/blogs/jscott/

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#6

<<I think that the cleaning person that wipes down your machine, or

cleans the areas between the machines deserves a tip more than the
people who deliver the money. Last time I went, I gave a tip to one
of these cleaning person. She was so surprised because nobody ever
thinks of her. Why don't Bob Dancer and Jean Frugal mention the
cleaning lady? The answer is because there is nothing in it for
them. Why tip a dealer? The answer is tat if you do, sometimes they
will make a "mistake" in your favor if you do. In other words, you
are bribing them in advance to cheat for you.>>

From "More Frugal Gambling," where there is a whole chapter on

tipping.

"We like this spread-it-around idea even for major jackpot

tipping. In some casinos where we play often, we know what system
the employees have concerning tips they receive. Some keep all their
own tips, but in many places there are sharing arrangements.
However, we usually ignore this factor when we hit a big jackpot and
just try to share our happiness with as many employees as we can. I
don't really care that the casino rotates the change people to do
handpays; I do not like to give one big tip to a change person I have
never seen before he/she arrives to count out my stack of hundred
dollar bills. So if I plan to tip $40-$50 for this big jackpot, I
will give the hand payer only $20 and then see how far I can spread
joy by offering $5 to everyone who shows up - floor people,
supervisors, security, whoever. Some may not be allowed by casino
policy to accept tips, but they are happy I offered. Whatever tip
money is left over, I distribute to other employees who have made my
day pleasant - the hard-working porter that keeps our machine area
clean, the bathroom attendant who always has a cheerful greeting for
me, the cocktail waitress who will bring me hot tea AND a bottle of
water at the same time, the friendly change girl who has been rooting
for a jackpot on my machine all day.

            "This spread-it-around system, especially in a casino

where you play frequently, can give you a very generous reputation at
the same time you are staying well within your tipping budget."

________________
Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://lasvegasadvisor.com/blogs/jscott/

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If I get a W2G, I'll only tip the person who shows up first to greet
me and take my ID. I have very rarely ever tipped the person who
actually pays me. You would be surprised the amount of hangers-on
who migrate for these situations.

GimmeaQuad

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:

#7

Hey, Jean,

Which restrooms are you visiting that are so clean? That hasn't been *my*
experience!

I was in Vegas the past two weekends and every restroom I entered was (at
least) dirty and (at most) disgusting. These included: Bally's, Paris,
Terribles, Orleans, Rio, Treasure Island, and Planet Hollywood.

One, in particular (at Rio), smelled so bad I had to immediately leave and
find another one.

BTW, I really like the idea of tipping the ladies cleaning the machines next
to me. I'm going to do that next time.

Curtis

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On 1/25/09, K/J Haka <kjhaka@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have often thot about these same cleaning people as we discuss to the 9th
degree
about tipping on a jackpot. A buck to these cleaning people as well as
those that
clean the bathroom (would YOU clean a public bathroom???) is really
appreciated.
It is fun to see their eyes light up when they aren't expecting it. . . . .
. Maybe others
think that "that is their job" and so it is---but I really appreciate how
clean THEY keep
the machines and restrooms. Just a thot. . . . . .

Jean H--

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#8

I have never seen a dirty restroom in vegas, although the last 3 yrs I have
been strictly at the Palms when I go. I think tipping the bathroom
attendant and person who clean's up by the machine is a wonderful idea!! I
will definately be doing that next week when I go!!

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On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hey, Jean,

Which restrooms are you visiting that are so clean? That hasn't been *my*
experience!

I was in Vegas the past two weekends and every restroom I entered was (at
least) dirty and (at most) disgusting. These included: Bally's, Paris,
Terribles, Orleans, Rio, Treasure Island, and Planet Hollywood.

One, in particular (at Rio), smelled so bad I had to immediately leave and
find another one.

BTW, I really like the idea of tipping the ladies cleaning the machines
next
to me. I'm going to do that next time.

Curtis

On 1/25/09, K/J Haka <kjhaka@yahoo.com <kjhaka%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> I have often thot about these same cleaning people as we discuss to the
9th
> degree
> about tipping on a jackpot. A buck to these cleaning people as well as
> those that
> clean the bathroom (would YOU clean a public bathroom???) is really
> appreciated.
> It is fun to see their eyes light up when they aren't expecting it. . . .
.
> . Maybe others
> think that "that is their job" and so it is---but I really appreciate how
> clean THEY keep
> the machines and restrooms. Just a thot. . . . . .
>
> Jean H--

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#9

The restrooms at Ballys are clean--not spotless, but clean. The Paris
restrooms are very clean as are MGM, NYNY, Harrahs, Bills, Flamingo.
The Mirage restroom--when I could find it. . . . .was also very clean.
There usually is a female cleaning person around when I enter these
facilities. The restrooms at Gold Coast are almost spotless as well
as 4 Queens. This is from when I was there 2 weeks ago.

I also keep a few extra $1s and if I see someone actively cleaning
the restroom I'm in or around the machines I'm at (esp if they clean
up a "mess" someone left) I'll give them a buck-- AND I tell them
that I appreciate their efforts. I know what it's like to feel like your
efforts are almost "part of the wood-work" and I'm sure that a buck
here or there goes a long way towards adding to these people's day.
That's just my two cents. . . . .

Jean H--

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go.... Dr. Seuss

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________________________________
From: Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@gmail.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:48:28 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] LVA QOD--Tipping/Cleaners

Hey, Jean,

Which restrooms are you visiting that are so clean? That hasn't been *my*
experience!

I was in Vegas the past two weekends and every restroom I entered was (at
least) dirty and (at most) disgusting. These included: Bally's, Paris,
Terribles, Orleans, Rio, Treasure Island, and Planet Hollywood.

One, in particular (at Rio), smelled so bad I had to immediately leave and
find another one.

BTW, I really like the idea of tipping the ladies cleaning the machines next
to me. I'm going to do that next time.

Curtis

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#10

Very generous action KJHaka.

I hate the people who throw cigarettes and
other junk into urinals, on the floor, etc
and create a mess instead of using proper
disposal places.

Of course, these same people would never
tip, etc etc.

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--- On Tue, 1/27/09, K/J Haka <kjhaka@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: K/J Haka <kjhaka@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: [XvpFREE] LVA QOD--Tipping/Cleaners
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 9:42 AM
The restrooms at Ballys are clean--not spotless, but
clean. The Paris
restrooms are very clean as are MGM, NYNY, Harrahs, Bills,
Flamingo.
The Mirage restroom--when I could find it. . . . .was also
very clean.
There usually is a female cleaning person around when I
enter these
facilities. The restrooms at Gold Coast are almost
spotless as well
as 4 Queens. This is from when I was there 2 weeks
ago.

I also keep a few extra $1s and if I see someone actively
cleaning
the restroom I'm in or around the machines I'm at
(esp if they clean
up a "mess" someone left) I'll give them a
buck-- AND I tell them
that I appreciate their efforts. I know what it's like
to feel like your
efforts are almost "part of the wood-work" and
I'm sure that a buck
here or there goes a long way towards adding to these
people's day.
That's just my two cents. . . . .

Jean H--

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go.... Dr.
Seuss

________________________________
From: Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@gmail.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:48:28 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] LVA QOD--Tipping/Cleaners

Hey, Jean,

Which restrooms are you visiting that are so clean? That
hasn't been *my*
experience!

I was in Vegas the past two weekends and every restroom I
entered was (at
least) dirty and (at most) disgusting. These included:
Bally's, Paris,
Terribles, Orleans, Rio, Treasure Island, and Planet
Hollywood.

One, in particular (at Rio), smelled so bad I had to
immediately leave and
find another one.

BTW, I really like the idea of tipping the ladies cleaning
the machines next
to me. I'm going to do that next time.

Curtis

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