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LVA Question of the Day - 11 NOV 2008

Harry .......
Great point re margin. Walmart and other discounters work on the same principle. If I was a casino operator, I would rather make a little on a large volume than make a higher margin on far fewer players. Some VP players (me at least) get bored after playing VP for more than 3-4 hours straight and migrate over to other slot machines and table games with higher hold margins. Re accuracy of play, I doubt that more than a small percentage of even knowledgeable player more than about 99.8% accurate over an extended time period. Considering this, I think casinos make some money on positive game situations of less than 101%

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.... for one additional point.... The reality is at the opposite end of the spectrum.

A casino only has incentive to offer machines with strong payouts when

there's a meaningful body of players who seek them out and will play

elsewhere if another casino inventories them but this casino doesn't.

If players are indifferent, all paytables will be mediocre.

The ideal is, of course, if these players don't play with perfect

skill (and few do). They give the casino a machine hold that may be

thinner than offered by players on other machines, but can be

compensated with greater play volume.

Give a consumer/player a better deal and, where there's an appetite

for it, they'll "consume" more ... getting greater satisfaction out of

the ride. Usually/hopefully it turns out to not be a case of, "We

lose a little on every sale, but we make up for it on volume!" :wink:

The paytables may carry reduced player benefits, but more often than

not they're present only because of the word having been spread.

- H.

I believe this was the business plan of George Maloof, when he first
opened the Fiesta back in 1994.

Don the Dentist

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Robert Romanyshyn <bobfpdw@...> wrote:

If I was a casino operator, I would rather make a little on a large
volume than make a higher margin on far fewer players.

Clearly it was also the plan of the late lamented Reserve. I have
never been able to find out what the financial position of the Reserve
was before it was sold.

Don

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dds2124" <dds6@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Robert Romanyshyn <bobfpdw@> wrote:

>>If I was a casino operator, I would rather make a little on a large
>>volume than make a higher margin on far fewer players.

I believe this was the business plan of George Maloof, when he first
opened the Fiesta back in 1994.

Don the Dentist

"Clearly it was also the plan of the late lamented Reserve. I have never been able to find out what the financial position of the Reserve was before it was sold."

The Reserve was doing OK; not great. The issue was that Ameristar wanted to buy the Missouri operations of Stations Casinos and Stations needed to sell. Stations was tired of competing with the Reserve so they forced Ameristar to sell the Reserve to them in return for selling the Missouri properties to them.
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