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lost/stolen purchase tickets

#1

sometimes i leave casinos carrying purchase tickets for large amounts.
if i'm going to come back tomorrow, it seems more convenient not to
cash the tickets and then feed the bills back in the next day. it also
seems potentially safer to carry a ticket than a big ol' wad of
hundreds.

it occurs to me that if the ticket *were* stolen - or lost, i suppose
- there's no real reason why the casino couldn't pay me anyway.
immediately go to them and report the lost ticket, have them verify
that i was sitting there playing with my card in at such-and-such time
and cashed out for such-and-such amount, void the existing ticket,
issue a new one. same as you'd do with a lost or stolen check, except
even easier.

however, because the casino *can* do this, doesn't mean that they
*would* do this. does anyone on this board have experience trying to
get paid on a large cashout when you don't have the ticket anymore?
did you have any success?

i'm also wondering whether it might be a good idea to take five
seconds to snap a cameraphone picture of my ticket before i leave -
that way i have more information to present. "hi, i got a ticket for
$X, validation number ABCXYZ, issued by machine EFG. i don't have the
scrap of paper, but that's all the info, pay me." but maybe that would
just confuse them.

cheers,

five

#2

I suppose they could, but I doubt you'd be paid immediately. It would be similar to a bank or broker paying you immediately on a lost check or stock certificate. All of the institutions would want to be certain that the missing instrument had not already been paid, then would enter a stop into their system, and then wait 'til they're good & ready to recheck again that it hadn't been paid, then maybe after you signed you first-born away, they'd think about maybe paying you. I'd guess they'd even be within their rights to wait the 180 days for the ticket to expire uncashed before paying you.

In other words, I'd either be certain not to lose it or cash it in before I left the premises, preferably the latter.

At least I'd know I was in action the next day.

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From: fivespot <fivespot55@gmail.com>

sometimes i leave casinos carrying purchase tickets for large amounts.
if i'm going to come back tomorrow, it seems more convenient not to
cash the tickets and then feed the bills back in the next day. it also
seems potentially safer to carry a ticket than a big ol' wad of
hundreds.

it occurs to me that if the ticket *were* stolen - or lost, i suppose
- there's no real reason why the casino couldn't pay me anyway.

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#3

I left a 400 dollar tix in a 9/6 machine at Wynn near Red 8. I walked away for about 30 seconds and as I turned around I thought I saw a 50 yo man walking away from the machine. When I confronted the guy and said " I believe you have my tix, he showed me a 5 cent tix. I had very low blood sugar and was tired. I went back to the machine and saw it missing. I looked around for 5 minutes before getting help. By the time they tried to stop the tix, he had already cashed it. I filed a report but they didn't have him in their database at wynn or at the LV Metro police department.

I then did the same thing a few months later, but returned within 40 seconds to still see the tix. I now have a sheet of paper in my vp folded that says, " Don't forget the ticket".

james thompson
Hard Rock Hotel Monitor

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: fivespot55@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:36:25 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] lost/stolen purchase tickets

      sometimes i leave casinos carrying purchase tickets for large amounts.

if i'm going to come back tomorrow, it seems more convenient not to

cash the tickets and then feed the bills back in the next day. it also

seems potentially safer to carry a ticket than a big ol' wad of

hundreds.

it occurs to me that if the ticket *were* stolen - or lost, i suppose

- there's no real reason why the casino couldn't pay me anyway.

immediately go to them and report the lost ticket, have them verify

that i was sitting there playing with my card in at such-and-such time

and cashed out for such-and-such amount, void the existing ticket,

issue a new one. same as you'd do with a lost or stolen check, except

even easier.

however, because the casino *can* do this, doesn't mean that they

*would* do this. does anyone on this board have experience trying to

get paid on a large cashout when you don't have the ticket anymore?

did you have any success?

i'm also wondering whether it might be a good idea to take five

seconds to snap a cameraphone picture of my ticket before i leave -

that way i have more information to present. "hi, i got a ticket for

$X, validation number ABCXYZ, issued by machine EFG. i don't have the

scrap of paper, but that's all the info, pay me." but maybe that would

just confuse them.

cheers,

five

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#4

Probably generates an SAR. Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party?

http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/pdf/casinosarguidancefinal1203.pdf

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, fivespot <fivespot55@...> wrote:

sometimes i leave casinos carrying purchase tickets for large amounts.
if i'm going to come back tomorrow, it seems more convenient not to
cash the tickets and then feed the bills back in the next day. it also
seems potentially safer to carry a ticket than a big ol' wad of
hundreds.

it occurs to me that if the ticket *were* stolen - or lost, i suppose
- there's no real reason why the casino couldn't pay me anyway.
immediately go to them and report the lost ticket, have them verify
that i was sitting there playing with my card in at such-and-such time
and cashed out for such-and-such amount, void the existing ticket,
issue a new one. same as you'd do with a lost or stolen check, except
even easier.

however, because the casino *can* do this, doesn't mean that they
*would* do this. does anyone on this board have experience trying to
get paid on a large cashout when you don't have the ticket anymore?
did you have any success?

i'm also wondering whether it might be a good idea to take five
seconds to snap a cameraphone picture of my ticket before i leave -
that way i have more information to present. "hi, i got a ticket for
$X, validation number ABCXYZ, issued by machine EFG. i don't have the
scrap of paper, but that's all the info, pay me." but maybe that would
just confuse them.

cheers,

five

#5

I heard of someone ironing his shirt with a ticket in it. The tickets are heat sensitive and it turned black. The casino was able to tilt the ticket in such a way as to see the shiny area and read the numbers. He got paid from this ticket.

If you are well known in the casino I think that you would be paid on the spot if you had pictures of the tickets. Great idea by the way!

I also keep tickets until I am done playing at that casino and/or need the cash.

Just treat them as you would cash.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, fivespot <fivespot55@...> wrote:

sometimes i leave casinos carrying purchase tickets for large amounts.
if i'm going to come back tomorrow, it seems more convenient not to
cash the tickets and then feed the bills back in the next day. it also
seems potentially safer to carry a ticket than a big ol' wad of
hundreds.

it occurs to me that if the ticket *were* stolen - or lost, i suppose
- there's no real reason why the casino couldn't pay me anyway.
immediately go to them and report the lost ticket, have them verify
that i was sitting there playing with my card in at such-and-such time
and cashed out for such-and-such amount, void the existing ticket,
issue a new one. same as you'd do with a lost or stolen check, except
even easier.

however, because the casino *can* do this, doesn't mean that they
*would* do this. does anyone on this board have experience trying to
get paid on a large cashout when you don't have the ticket anymore?
did you have any success?

i'm also wondering whether it might be a good idea to take five
seconds to snap a cameraphone picture of my ticket before i leave -
that way i have more information to present. "hi, i got a ticket for
$X, validation number ABCXYZ, issued by machine EFG. i don't have the
scrap of paper, but that's all the info, pay me." but maybe that would
just confuse them.

cheers,

five