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After pounding DDB Full pay at Sunset for 5 full days (while staying there) at the $.50 level I had three friends for dinner at the Sonoma Steakhouse. The tab with tip was $510.00 (we had nice wines) I asked my host if she could help with the tab and the answer was a flat out NO. I (we) same account, played about 10-15 hours a day. It was the only comp I asked for, for the entire time.....Hum....could anybody help for a new destination on future trips? I'm out there up to three times a year from the east coast, many thanks..............I do realize that they are in chapter 11....Rod......

I have found the following Casinos to be reasonable with comps...
All Boyd properties, South Point, M .

Regards

A.P.

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--- On Mon, 10/5/09, vprod618 <vprod618@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: vprod618 <vprod618@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] looking for a new casino=las vegas
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:50 PM

After pounding DDB Full pay at Sunset for 5 full days (while staying there) at the $.50 level I had three friends for dinner at the Sonoma Steakhouse. The tab with tip was $510.00 (we had nice wines) I asked my host if she could help with the tab and the answer was a flat out NO. I (we) same account, played about 10-15 hours a day. It was the only comp I asked for, for the entire time.....Hum. ...could anybody help for a new destination on future trips? I'm out there up to three times a year from the east coast, many thanks...... ........I do realize that they are in chapter 11....Rod... ...

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By playing only full pay DDB you pretty much eliminated your theo. Stations is already pretty skimpy on the comps. Everyone I have talked to that plays the full pay machines at stations gets virtually nothing.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vprod618" <vprod618@...> wrote:

     After pounding DDB Full pay at Sunset for 5 full days (while staying there) at the $.50 level I had three friends for dinner at the Sonoma Steakhouse. The tab with tip was $510.00 (we had nice wines) I asked my host if she could help with the tab and the answer was a flat out NO. I (we) same account, played about 10-15 hours a day. It was the only comp I asked for, for the entire time.....Hum....could anybody help for a new destination on future trips? I'm out there up to three times a year from the east coast, many thanks..............I do realize that they are in chapter 11....Rod......

By playing only full pay DDB you pretty much eliminated your theo.

Since the games I've been playing haven't changed and they were pretty much
full DDB, the comps in Vegas were pretty stellar for about 6-8 hours of play
over 3 days on $1 single and multi-line games for the last 5 years. A
recent trip to Vegas caused some surprise when things that were comped as on
previous trips. This last trip was even a decent sized net loss so that
made things even more confusing and well, irritating.

So I guess my question is THEO the primary and only comp determinant now?
If so, what is the minimum edge that the house is expecting to have THEO be
a factor? Full Pay DDB (9/6) still isn't 100% or higher. Has hours of play
been eliminated as a comping factor, too?

Elizabeth, and others who replied, thank you. Because I go out 2-3-times a year, I guess I got spoiled and now a reality check for sure. I can remember some years ago we played on a dual account at Sam's mostly full pay on QUARTERS, for about 10-12 hours a day and I took friends to their Italian restaurant ( I forgot the name), it has a sidewalk cafe that spilled onto the atrium, anyway, there were I believe 8 of 9 of us with bottles of wine, etc., and took a flier and the WHOLE CHECK WAS COMPED! ( I did not expect my host to comp everything) Maybe I should reconsider Sam's or Coast as someone advised.....many thanks, Rod..

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From: Elizabeth Badrov <wagner@blight.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 3:40:32 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: looking for a new casino=las vegas

By playing only full pay DDB you pretty much eliminated your theo.

Since the games I've been playing haven't changed and they were pretty much
full DDB, the comps in Vegas were pretty stellar for about 6-8 hours of play
over 3 days on $1 single and multi-line games for the last 5 years. A
recent trip to Vegas caused some surprise when things that were comped as on
previous trips. This last trip was even a decent sized net loss so that
made things even more confusing and well, irritating.

So I guess my question is THEO the primary and only comp determinant now?
If so, what is the minimum edge that the house is expecting to have THEO be
a factor? Full Pay DDB (9/6) still isn't 100% or higher. Has hours of play
been eliminated as a comping factor, too?

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When you said full pay at Sunset I was assuming 10/6 DDB. If you were playing the 9/6 machines, which accrue points 4 times as fast as the "Optimum Play," I don't see why they didn't comp you. Stations is not very comp friendly especially in the last two years. I knew one of the hosts really well and I was comped regardless of card use, but he knew I played quite a bit. He went on to a more lucrative casino and so my play went elsewhere as well.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Elizabeth Badrov" <wagner@...> wrote:

> By playing only full pay DDB you pretty much eliminated your theo.

Since the games I've been playing haven't changed and they were pretty much
full DDB, the comps in Vegas were pretty stellar for about 6-8 hours of play
over 3 days on $1 single and multi-line games for the last 5 years. A
recent trip to Vegas caused some surprise when things that were comped as on
previous trips. This last trip was even a decent sized net loss so that
made things even more confusing and well, irritating.

So I guess my question is THEO the primary and only comp determinant now?
If so, what is the minimum edge that the house is expecting to have THEO be
a factor? Full Pay DDB (9/6) still isn't 100% or higher. Has hours of play
been eliminated as a comping factor, too?

I played 10/6 DDB at the $.50 level exclusively.....Well 95% of the time....upon second thought....

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From: gofaster87 <gofaster87@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 5:46:09 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: looking for a new casino=las vegas

When you said full pay at Sunset I was assuming 10/6 DDB. If you were playing the 9/6 machines, which accrue points 4 times as fast as the "Optimum Play," I don't see why they didn't comp you. Stations is not very comp friendly especially in the last two years. I knew one of the hosts really well and I was comped regardless of card use, but he knew I played quite a bit. He went on to a more lucrative casino and so my play went elsewhere as well.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, "Elizabeth Badrov" <wagner@...> wrote:

> By playing only full pay DDB you pretty much eliminated your theo.

Since the games I've been playing haven't changed and they were pretty much
full DDB, the comps in Vegas were pretty stellar for about 6-8 hours of play
over 3 days on $1 single and multi-line games for the last 5 years. A
recent trip to Vegas caused some surprise when things that were comped as on
previous trips. This last trip was even a decent sized net loss so that
made things even more confusing and well, irritating.

So I guess my question is THEO the primary and only comp determinant now?
If so, what is the minimum edge that the house is expecting to have THEO be
a factor? Full Pay DDB (9/6) still isn't 100% or higher. Has hours of play
been eliminated as a comping factor, too?

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Hours of play (coin-in) is very low on the comping factor list.

Primary is theoretical loss and then actual loss. Depending upon what you were playing, a casino will generally comp about 10% of actual loss which many times is used up by the value of a room that is comped.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: wagner@blight.com
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:40:32 -0500
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: looking for a new casino=las vegas

> By playing only full pay DDB you pretty much eliminated your theo.

Since the games I've been playing haven't changed and they were pretty much
full DDB, the comps in Vegas were pretty stellar for about 6-8 hours of play
over 3 days on $1 single and multi-line games for the last 5 years. A
recent trip to Vegas caused some surprise when things that were comped as on
previous trips. This last trip was even a decent sized net loss so that
made things even more confusing and well, irritating.

So I guess my question is THEO the primary and only comp determinant now?
If so, what is the minimum edge that the house is expecting to have THEO be
a factor? Full Pay DDB (9/6) still isn't 100% or higher. Has hours of play
been eliminated as a comping factor, too?

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