mmendoza11@aol.com wrote>
Taking or laying odds is the ONLY bet where the house
has no advantage..they pay out exactly what the "true odds are"
You seem to miss the point. Is that a good reason to double your bet
and give up the advantage you already have?
....
Love, IS!!!
See IS - Spiritual Insights, a FREE book with no ads at http://
www.is1.org/
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He's taking the 0% EV so he gives the casino more action,so they rate him higher and give him more comps.
What is it, 1/4% CB or comps? Something like that.
--- On Fri, 11/30/12, Dennis Krum <is@is1.org> wrote:
From: Dennis Krum <is@is1.org>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Laying Odds
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 30, 2012, 12:35 PM
mmendoza11@aol.com wrote>
Taking or laying odds is the ONLY bet where the house
has no advantage..they pay out exactly what the "true odds are"
You seem to miss the point. Is that a good reason to double your bet
and give up the advantage you already have?
....
Love, IS!!!
See IS - Spiritual Insights, a FREE book with no ads at http://
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Most places won't rate you on the odds.
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: brucedcohen2002@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:54:15 -0800
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Laying Odds
He's taking the 0% EV so he gives the casino more action,so they rate him higher and give him more comps.
What is it, 1/4% CB or comps? Something like that.
--- On Fri, 11/30/12, Dennis Krum <is@is1.org> wrote:
From: Dennis Krum <is@is1.org>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Laying Odds
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 30, 2012, 12:35 PM
mmendoza11@aol.com wrote>
Taking or laying odds is the ONLY bet where the house
has no advantage..they pay out exactly what the "true odds are"
You seem to miss the point. Is that a good reason to double your bet
and give up the advantage you already have?
....
Love, IS!!!
See IS - Spiritual Insights, a FREE book with no ads at http://
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You are not giving up any advantage. You are making a separate bet, on which neither the bettor nor the house as an advantage.
On 11/30/2012 3:35 PM, Dennis Krum wrote:
mmendoza11@aol.com <mailto:mmendoza11%40aol.com> wrote>
> Taking or laying odds is the ONLY bet where the house
>
> has no advantage..they pay out exactly what the "true odds are"You seem to miss the point. Is that a good reason to double your bet
and give up the advantage you already have?
CZR's places do so, as well as quite a few others in AC and LV.
On 11/30/2012 4:05 PM, David Silvus wrote:
Most places won't rate you on the odds.
I talked to a pit man for a long time my last Vegas trip @ Caesar's. He said that they "don't really" rate on the odds bets but that they "have a little flexibility" on that.
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: mspevack@optonline.net
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:33:06 -0500
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Laying Odds
On 11/30/2012 4:05 PM, David Silvus wrote:
Most places won't rate you on the odds.
CZR's places do so, as well as quite a few others in AC and LV.
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Taking or laying odds is the ONLY bet where the house
has no advantage..they pay out exactly what the "true odds are"
Dennis Krum responded: You seem to miss the point. Is that a good reason to
double your bet
and give up the advantage you already have?
What Mmendoza11
said is true for regular craps, but not for card craps.
Krum’s
response is misguided. You do have a momentary advantage betting the DON’T
after you survive the come out roll. But that momentary advantage is expensive
to come by (you fail to do it 22% of the time). In card craps, if you fail to
lay odds, you are still playing a losing game. Laying maximum odds allows you
to play a positive game.
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Bruce
wrote: He's taking the 0% EV so he gives the casino more action,so they rate
him higher and give him more comps. What is it, 1/4% CB or comps? Something
like that.
It’s true
that I stopped playing when they stopped including the odds bet in the
theoretical. That reduced the overall return on the game more than I wanted to
fade. But it is NOT true that it’s a 0% EV on the odds. In card craps, that’s
where you get the edge.
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From Bob's VERY interesting article:
" basically it has to do with the CSM not including the last 12 cards that have been seen in the shuffle. This gives a strong bias toward the DON'T. "
What if the last 12 cards are returned to the CSM before each shuffle and deal?
At my local Indian casino, each player pays a $1 fee to the house on each roll out (deal out? ) when playing the pass or don't pass. However, players don't pay the $1 on the come/don't come. I was the only person at the very crowded craps table playing the come bets and not the pass line. Does the very interesting information presented in Bob Dancer's column still apply to this situation?
Thank you Bob!!!