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Lately it's downgrade here and downgrade there. What about upgrade?

#1

With all these "downgrades" going on, what do you think may trigger a
change and shift focus to "upgrade" or at least no more downgrade?
Are the casinos making early moves to counter current (WinPoker, Frugal
VP, etc.) and upcoming (Video Poker for Winners, etc.) tools that help
many players win win win so that no matter how much vp knowledge you
bring to the casinos, the downgraded pay schedules are still unbeatable?

VP articles, forums, trip reports, stories, tv shows, etc. have been
focused mainly on players winning sessions (ie. Player A hit a Royal
Flush for $100,000 there and Player B got a dealt Royal on a 10-Play
machine here, then shows like "How to beat the casinos?" would say play
video poker instead of slots, play 10/7 DB instead of 9/6 DB, and on
and on). Everything is leading to or suggesting casino management
to "downgrade".

Who knows what will happen if maybe some of the vp writers start
writing more articles about why casinos are still ahead of the game
despite of full-pay or near full-pay machines:
- many people still playing the game without practicing with vp tools
or reading/memorizing proper vp strategies.
- many people play where denomination of the machine is way out of
their bankrolls
- many people play way tooooooo longggggg: they get tired and make
many mistakes (machines never get tired)

#2

<<Who knows what will happen if maybe some of the vp writers start
writing more articles about why casinos are still ahead of the game
despite of full-pay or near full-pay machines:
- many people still playing the game without practicing with vp tools
or reading/memorizing proper vp strategies.
- many people play where denomination of the machine is way out of
their bankrolls
- many people play way tooooooo longggggg: they get tired and make
many mistakes (machines never get tired)>>

I have discussed these and other similar ideas many many times, in my books, online in Frugal Fridays, and in various magazine articles.

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Jean $¢ott - "FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
This new book (autographed) and other
   frugal products are now available at my
   new Web site, http://queenofcomps.com/.
   E-mail address is queenofcomps@cox.net.

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#3

Thanks for your reply, Jean!
I always admire the stuffs you do for the vp community.
Hopefully in the future, enough articles that can help stop
these "downgrades" are published in Strickly Slots, Casino Players
magazines, and others so we may be able to see some "upgrades"
someday. :slight_smile:

I saw you and Brad a couple of times already at The Wynn and also at
Silverton and both times I kinda hesitated to even say "hi" thinking
that I should respect your privacy and not be bothered by strangers.
Anyway, maybe I should at least say "hi" and maybe I can tell all my
friends, who call me "king of comps", that I have met the queen of
comps in person!

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "queenofcomps" <queenofcomps@...>
wrote:

<<Who knows what will happen if maybe some of the vp writers start
writing more articles about why casinos are still ahead of the game
despite of full-pay or near full-pay machines:
- many people still playing the game without practicing with vp

tools

or reading/memorizing proper vp strategies.
- many people play where denomination of the machine is way out of
their bankrolls
- many people play way tooooooo longggggg: they get tired and make
many mistakes (machines never get tired)>>

I have discussed these and other similar ideas many many times, in

my books, online in Frugal Fridays, and in various magazine articles.

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________________________________________
Jean $¢ott - "FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
This new book (autographed) and other
   frugal products are now available at my
   new Web site, http://queenofcomps.com/.
   E-mail address is queenofcomps@...

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#4

It's the times. The last six months has gotten progressively better
and better, and now there's going to be some retraction. I can't tell
you how many stupid promos were offered by certain casinos. It is
utterly amazing to me that they can't do basic arithmetic, or maybe in
some cases, that's the idea-one which I'm a little hesitant to discuss
right now.

I actually expect some sort of retraction from what I'm seeing right
now. It's ok, I need some time off, anyway. I can't remember ever
working this hard since 2003.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@...> wrote:

With all these "downgrades" going on, what do you think may trigger a
change and shift focus to "upgrade" or at least no more downgrade?

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#5

my books, online in Frugal Fridays, and in various magazine articles.

Keep on lobbying for us Jean, but let me ask:

What kind of response do you get to that position. I am sure that
those managers are not bashful and will tell you what they think.

Well maybe not, in this day of PCness, but I am sure you get an eye
roll, or an eyebrow or a red face or some kind of reaction.

Anxiously awainting your comments.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "queenofcomps" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:

I have discussed these and other similar ideas many many times, in

#6

Response to a couple of e-mails on this subject:

<<What kind of response do you get to that position. I am sure that
those managers are not bashful and will tell you what they think.
What kind of response do you get to that position. I am sure that
those managers are not bashful and will tell you what they think.>>

When I talk to them personally, i.e., at the seminars where I speak, they are polite and say they enjoy hearing my views. But I am not so naive as to think I make a major difference in this area. I am more successful, I think, in talking about subjects like giving better customer service.

<<I saw you and Brad a couple of times already at The Wynn and also at
Silverton and both times I kinda hesitated to even say "hi" thinking
that I should respect your privacy and not be bothered by strangers.
Anyway, maybe I should at least say "hi"....."

I have said many times that we enjoy people stopping to introduce themselves when they see us in a casino. We don't consider it an "interruption" in our play at all - but enjoy it as a welcome break!!!!! We have never been private people because we love having so many friends!!!!

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________________________________________
Jean $¢ott - "FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
This new book (autographed) and other
   frugal products are now available at my
   new Web site, http://queenofcomps.com/.
   E-mail address is queenofcomps@cox.net.

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