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Keeping the strategies straight

#1

Being fairly new to VP, I was wondering just how many of the various
Vp games do you try to play and achieve perfect strategies on? There
are so many different games and all with different strategies to
learn. I started with JB, then DDB, and am now studying DW (which
seems to be the easiest). However, doesn't it get confusing trying to
keep it all straight with all the games and correct plays? With just
those three, I find it confusing when jumping from one game to
another. When playing for real, I always worry if I am mixing up
strategies among games and it slows my play. Do most of you good VP
players have just a favorite game or two ? Or excellent memory ?

Thanks

#2

I think it gets down to practice. That is, the more you play the better
you'll remember. I don't care if it's using a software program or the
real thing. You'll get better the more you play. However, take a long
break away from any game and you'll start to forget it.

In sports the term muscle memory is often used when discussing
practicing techniques. In VP, the brain is the muscle, therefore,
practice techniques also apply. Practicing "hard hards" is one
technique. Another practice technique is directly entering cards that
may give you problems and looking for nuances. I'm sure there are many
others and I hope others post some of their favorite techniques.

Dick

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ab4nita" <ab4nita@...> wrote:

Being fairly new to VP, I was wondering just how many of the various
Vp games do you try to play and achieve perfect strategies on? There
are so many different games and all with different strategies to
learn. I started with JB, then DDB, and am now studying DW (which
seems to be the easiest). However, doesn't it get confusing trying to
keep it all straight with all the games and correct plays? With just
those three, I find it confusing when jumping from one game to
another. When playing for real, I always worry if I am mixing up
strategies among games and it slows my play. Do most of you good VP
players have just a favorite game or two ? Or excellent memory ?

Thanks

#3

I just use cheat sheets from Tom Ski (On some games like DDB I
customize them to reflect the strange Atlantic City paytables).
There is nothing illegal about using the sheets and noone has ever
stopped me. Has anyone ever gotten bounced in Nevada for using
cheat sheets?

>
> Being fairly new to VP, I was wondering just how many of the

various

> Vp games do you try to play and achieve perfect strategies on?

There

> are so many different games and all with different strategies to
> learn. I started with JB, then DDB, and am now studying DW

(which

> seems to be the easiest). However, doesn't it get confusing

trying to

> keep it all straight with all the games and correct plays? With

just

> those three, I find it confusing when jumping from one game to
> another. When playing for real, I always worry if I am mixing up
> strategies among games and it slows my play. Do most of you

good VP

> players have just a favorite game or two ? Or excellent memory ?
>
> Thanks

I think it gets down to practice. That is, the more you play the

better

you'll remember. I don't care if it's using a software program or

the

real thing. You'll get better the more you play. However, take a

long

break away from any game and you'll start to forget it.

In sports the term muscle memory is often used when discussing
practicing techniques. In VP, the brain is the muscle, therefore,
practice techniques also apply. Practicing "hard hards" is one
technique. Another practice technique is directly entering cards

that

may give you problems and looking for nuances. I'm sure there are

many

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mroejacks" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ab4nita" <ab4nita@> wrote:
others and I hope others post some of their favorite techniques.

Dick

#4

For the level at which I play, I found that it isn't necessary to
memorize every last bit of strategy. For a while your play mistakes
will cost you more than not knowing a perfect strategy. Also, it takes
a very long time for the cost of only playing a basic strategy to
become significant compared to the swings of the game.

You probably want to focus on strategies for games which you know you
can find and afford to play. No need to learn DB if you're a quarter
player and it's only available in dollars where you play.

I originally found that it seemed easier for me to learn strategies
that were very different (JoB, PKM, FPDW), but eventually realized
that I didn't play PKM or DW, and decided to stop focusing on them.
Instead, I focused on my JoB play, learning most of the advanced bits
of the strategy, and on DB, which I learnt by focusing on the
differences between JoB and DB. My DB play isn't perfect, but it's
good enough that I have no reason to play JoB when DB is available at
the same denomination (plus, playing basic JoB strategy on a DB
machine is actually a very decent play, better in fact than perfect
JoB on a JoB machine).

JBQ

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On 2/15/06, ab4nita <ab4nita@yahoo.com> wrote:

Being fairly new to VP, I was wondering just how many of the various
Vp games do you try to play and achieve perfect strategies on? There
are so many different games and all with different strategies to
learn. I started with JB, then DDB, and am now studying DW (which
seems to be the easiest). However, doesn't it get confusing trying to
keep it all straight with all the games and correct plays? With just
those three, I find it confusing when jumping from one game to
another. When playing for real, I always worry if I am mixing up
strategies among games and it slows my play. Do most of you good VP
players have just a favorite game or two ? Or excellent memory ?

Thanks

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#5

Hi,
  
Thanks for the response.. I wasn't aware that 9/6 JOB strategy was good strategy for DB. However, I haven't checked out DB yet.
  
   I have only been playing VP a little over a year so I'm sure most of you have lots of time and experience that I'm lacking at this point. I begin with JOB and got very bored with that after awhile so I learned DDB. However, it has become rare to find good DDB in the Tunica market so I'm now a student of DW. I've been playing/studying DW on my computer for about three weeks now and when I went back to try playing my DDB again.......IT FELT SO AWKWARD AND THE PLAYS DIDN'T COME NATURAL as they had before ! Maybe more time and play will make the difference.
  
  I like DW but like the bigger payouts with DDB.
  
  Thanks again.
   
Jean-Baptiste Queru <jbqueru@gmail.com> wrote: For the level at which I play, I found that it isn't necessary to
  memorize every last bit of strategy. For a while your play mistakes
  will cost you more than not knowing a perfect strategy. Also, it takes
  a very long time for the cost of only playing a basic strategy to
  become significant compared to the swings of the game.
  
  You probably want to focus on strategies for games which you know you
  can find and afford to play. No need to learn DB if you're a quarter
  player and it's only available in dollars where you play.
  
  I originally found that it seemed easier for me to learn strategies
  that were very different (JoB, PKM, FPDW), but eventually realized
  that I didn't play PKM or DW, and decided to stop focusing on them.
  Instead, I focused on my JoB play, learning most of the advanced bits
  of the strategy, and on DB, which I learnt by focusing on the
  differences between JoB and DB. My DB play isn't perfect, but it's
  good enough that I have no reason to play JoB when DB is available at
  the same denomination (plus, playing basic JoB strategy on a DB
  machine is actually a very decent play, better in fact than perfect
  JoB on a JoB machine).
  
  JBQ

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On 2/15/06, ab4nita <ab4nita@yahoo.com> wrote:
  > Being fairly new to VP, I was wondering just how many of the various
  > Vp games do you try to play and achieve perfect strategies on? There
  > are so many different games and all with different strategies to
  > learn. I started with JB, then DDB, and am now studying DW (which
  > seems to be the easiest). However, doesn't it get confusing trying to
  > keep it all straight with all the games and correct plays? With just
  > those three, I find it confusing when jumping from one game to
  > another. When playing for real, I always worry if I am mixing up
  > strategies among games and it slows my play. Do most of you good VP
  > players have just a favorite game or two ? Or excellent memory ?
  >
  > Thanks
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