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Jumbo Jackpots

If Boulder Station's Jumbo Jackpot must hit by $150,000 and it's near
$140,000 now, does anyone believe that an opportunity exists or that it
carries some "ev" to play there?

Scot

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Sure, there is “some” additional ev to play. The problem is, what method
do they use to choose the winner? Are reel machines given a higher weight
than VP machines? Do higher theoretical hold machines have a higher
probability of hitting? Are higher denomination machines given a better
chance? If every penny put in a machine was given an equal chance, then you
could make some sort of an estimate as to the additional ev. Anyone know
what formula they use???

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-----Original Message-----
From: Scot Krause [mailto:krauseinve…@…net]
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:22 AM
To: 'Tom Sims VP Group'
Subject: [vpFREE] Jumbo Jackpots

If Boulder Station's Jumbo Jackpot must hit by $150,000 and it's near
$140,000 now, does anyone believe that an opportunity exists or that it
carries some "ev" to play there?

Scot

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Sure, there is ?some? additional ev to play. The problem is, what method
do they use to choose the winner? Are reel machines given a higher weight
than VP machines? Do higher theoretical hold machines have a higher
probability of hitting? Are higher denomination machines given a better
chance? If every penny put in a machine was given an equal chance, then you
could make some sort of an estimate as to the additional ev. Anyone know
what formula they use???

Several people I know have made attempts, to no avail. "Random" is
the most sophisticated explanation I've heard. Another thing I'm
skeptical of is if the chance of hitting it at each casino is the
same. Maybe Boulder was deliberately programmed to hit at $149,900.
Assuming it's as random as a video poker machine might be expensive.

Sure, there is "some" additional ev to play. The problem is, what method
do they use to choose the winner? Are reel machines given a higher
weight
than VP machines? Do higher theoretical hold machines have a higher
probability of hitting? Are higher denomination machines given a better
chance? If every penny put in a machine was given an equal chance, then
you
could make some sort of an estimate as to the additional ev. Anyone know
what formula they use???

I think most of the winners to date have been playing nickel machines.
The ads state something like, "Any machine, anytime, any day."

Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: Randy C [mailto:ran…@…net]
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 7:40 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Jumbo Jackpots

Sure, there is ?some? additional ev to play. The problem is, what

method

do they use to choose the winner? Are reel machines given a higher

weight

than VP machines? Do higher theoretical hold machines have a higher
probability of hitting? Are higher denomination machines given a better
chance? If every penny put in a machine was given an equal chance, then

you

could make some sort of an estimate as to the additional ev. Anyone

know

what formula they use???

Several people I know have made attempts, to no avail. "Random" is
the most sophisticated explanation I've heard. Another thing I'm
skeptical of is if the chance of hitting it at each casino is the
same. Maybe Boulder was deliberately programmed to hit at $149,900.
Assuming it's as random as a video poker machine might be expensive.

But if you are playing positive games anyway, possibly with other
promotions involved, wouldn't it still make sense to play there rather
than somewhere else for the possibility that it might hit?

Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Robertson [mailto:thomasrrobert…@…net]
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:56 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Jumbo Jackpots

From what I've heard, the chances are based on the amount played,
like every penny put in has a certain chance of winning the bonus.
It seems to me like that chance per penny would go up in some sort of
negative-hyperbolic fashion as the promotional jackpot gets closer to
$150,000.

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Several people I know have made attempts, to no avail. "Random" is
the most sophisticated explanation I've heard. Another thing I'm
skeptical of is if the chance of hitting it at each casino is the
same. Maybe Boulder was deliberately programmed to hit at $149,900.
Assuming it's as random as a video poker machine might be expensive.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@w...>
wrote:

If Boulder Station's Jumbo Jackpot must hit by $150,000 and it's

near

$140,000 now, does anyone believe that an opportunity exists or

that it

carries some "ev" to play there?

Scot

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It hit Saturday night or early Sunday morning for about $141,000
on bank #628 at Boulder. I saw the woman getting her picture taken.