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Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 1 NOV 2015

NOVEMBER VEGAS PROMOTIONS

http://jscott.lvablog.com/2015/11/01/november-vegas-promotions-4/

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D11 · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

I saw the Play for Prizes at the Palms. Do you know how many points you need to earn to get a Best Buy gift card? thanks

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 1 NOV 2015

NOVEMBER VEGAS PROMOTIONS

http://jscott.lvablog.com/2015/11/01/november-vegas-promotions-4/

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Jean · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

They are always the same, no matter what gift card is offered:

5k/50k points (slots/VP) = $100 card
Half that for $50 card
1/4th that for $25 card
1/10th that for $10 card

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NOVEMBER VEGAS PROMOTIONS

http://jscott.lvablog.com/2015/11/01/november-vegas-promotions-4/

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Jean · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

I think my memory must be slipping, but someone asked me this question and suddenly I couldn’t think of the answer - in spite of the fact that I think I wrote about this subject once. Can someone help me out here – maybe even refer me to my own answer???

If you wanted to play 25-cent 9/6 poker betting 5 coins each time and there were two machines side-by-side with one a “new” multi-game selection and one older one-machine-one-VP-game” would you have a reason to prefer one machine over the other?

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Albert_Pearson1 · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

The only factors that I could logically see are..
The newer machine might be faster which I prefer.The newer machine might have a better image quality which I prefer.The newer machine might have buttons that function better which I prefer.
Other than that I can't think of a logical reason to pick one over the other. Regards
A.P.

I think my memory must be slipping, but someone asked me this question and suddenly I couldn’t think of the answer - in spite of the fact that I think I wrote about this subject once. Can someone help me out here – maybe even refer me to my own answer???

If you wanted to play 25-cent 9/6 poker betting 5 coins each time and there were two machines side-by-side with one a “new” multi-game selection and one older one-machine-one-VP-game” would you have a reason to prefer one machine over the other?

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Ken3 · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

Is it possible that the multi-game machine might provide a higher ADT loss, because some of the games have lower paybacks than 9/6 JOB and they average all the games on the machine.

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:59:50 -0800
Subject: [vpFREE] A Question about game selection

I think my memory must be slipping, but someone asked me this question and suddenly I couldn’t think of the answer - in spite of the fact that I think I wrote about this subject once. Can someone help me out here – maybe even refer me to my own answer???

If you wanted to play 25-cent 9/6 poker betting 5 coins each time and there were two machines side-by-side with one a “new” multi-game selection and one older one-machine-one-VP-game” would you have a reason to prefer one machine over the other?

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Jean · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

a.. Slot Machines - Earn at least 1 Reward Credit for every $5 you play on a reel slot machine or $10 on a video poker machine. Some machines have lower earn rates and these games will be clearly marked with the different rate.
b.. Table games - Earn Reward Credits based on the type of table game you are playing, your average bet and how long you play.
This is the explanation on Harrah’s Website. I have a lot of experience with machine play, but I have none on table play. Is there anyone who has done both and has compared the results. For example, which will allow you to rack up points faster? How do you know – or find out - the rate for various table games, i.e., blackjack and craps? Does it vary depending on the game? Or, the denomination? Or, the casino?

TIA!!!

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007 · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

If there are no credits on a multi game machine, the game can change.
A player who doesn't notice this may play some hands on another game.

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I think my memory must be slipping, but someone asked me this question and suddenly I couldnt think of the answer - in spite of the fact that I think I wrote about this subject once. Can someone help me out here maybe even refer me to my own answer???

If you wanted to play 25-cent 9/6 poker betting 5 coins each time and there were two machines side-by-side with one a new multi-game selection and one older one-machine-one-VP-game would you have a reason to prefer one machine over the other?

Howard_Stern1 · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

Many casinos base their comps on theoretical hold. The casino may give all games on a multi-game machine the same "theo". If that theo is based on an average or weighted average of all the games it may be higher.

 If there are no credits on a multi game machine, the game can change\.

A player who doesn't notice this may play some hands on another game.

I think my memory must be slipping, but someone asked me this question and suddenly I couldn’t think of the answer - in spite of the fact that I think I wrote about this subject once. Can someone help me out here – maybe even refer me to my own answer???

If you wanted to play 25-cent 9/6 poker betting 5 coins each time and there were two machines side-by-side with one a “new” multi-game selection and one older one-machine-one-VP-game” would you have a reason to prefer one machine over the other?

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Mark_Vetanen · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

Most casinos will give players comps worth 5 to 50% of a player’s expected loss. That variable percentage is based on the casino, your tier level, your level of play, and if there is a promotion in effect.

Casinos use the following formula to calculate how much of a player’s action they expect to win.
Action x Casino Advantage = Player’s Theoretical Loss

Assuming you are dealt 60 hands per hour playing Blackjack, and your average bet at is $10, and you play for 3 hours. The casino calculates your total action as $1800 (60 hands x $10 per hand x 3 hours).

Since pit bosses can’t watch the play of every individual blackjack player to determine their skill level they general will estimate that their advantage over the masses of blackjack players to be 2%. This means they expect to win about $36 in the above example ($1800 x 2%).

This means the above player can expect a comp worth about $3.6 ($36 x 10%).

Jean · January 14, 2020, 7:26pm

I want to clarify my query here. I know how the comp system works generally for table play. I specifically want to know how table players earn Reward Credits at a CZR property to achieve various tier levels, i.e., Platinum. I did get one private e-mail answer and that writer said that a relative says he seems to get low points/rewards for what he plays vs slots or VP.

I am guessing that it is very hard – or even impossible – to find out in advance how much play gets a specific number of Reward Credts or Tier Points because it depends on so many factors, such as game choice, denom, etc. Maybe you just play and then see how many you get??? I would be very interested if anyone has made a study, comparing various table games vs. machine play which is more clear cut.

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