Thanks for the love...
There were a number of reasons why I posted, and posted as I did. I admit to being a little emotional, because I see Jean in a different light than the majority here.
I've met her and Brad a couple of times, on the surface they're very, very nice people. Letting me do my best Hyman Roth, but...what does this have to do with business?
See, I saw Stanford Wong do the same thing with blackjack 15 years ago with BJ21. All BJ21 did, especially the Black Chip page was to give the pit a tutorial on how to protect the game. So, when a guy like Dancer, who is certainly smart enough, tells you his idol is SW, that's kind of all you need to know about him.
As for Jean, hate to burst the public's bubble here, she's just another Vegas VP hustler with attitude of the same. She just wraps it around the veneer of "I'm just a little old lady/recreational player from Deepest Indiana." Don't get me wrong, it's a good act, but one I've seen played a number of times over the years. It's still an act.
Let's get this straight once and for all...I've been extremely critical of Dancer, even more so, but I've always respected his accomplishments, and you have to respect Jean's track record. OTOH, I have long said that in this business you must check your ego at valet, and that's, in the words of another VP writer, the undeniable truth. You lose points when your ego takes over the business decisions. I have a very healthy ego, yes, but so does Jean and Bob, even more so than mine.
You see something in a casino where the casino has made a mistake, well, just STFU and play it, and not rub it in their face. What's so hard about that? I mean, consider when Caesars had the quarter 10-play Super Aces and NSUD with 4+% theo. John Kelly couldn't keep his trap shut about it, bubbling over and over about his gourmet meals, etc...as if Harrahs wanted you to play a 100% multiline game in Vegas and give you 1.5% reinvestment on top of it. And this guy is in the VP Hall of Fame, I believe.
I can go on and on about this, but by now, either you get it or you don't. What disappoints me is the high percentage of people, who are generally intelligent, but refuse to get it. It's not a matter of capability, it's one of deniability.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sai" <gofaster87@...> wrote:
I dont see Paladin as being envious, I see him as being smart. Hes right, over the years casinos and players have become more knowledgeable about poker because of the "teachers." This has led to less advantage play, especially in the lower denoms, and less comps. I play for fun but I can see the effect these books and classes have had over the years and Im not happy about it either. Hes merely stating facts and whether you want believe it or not, it has happened. I don't bother giving grief to anyone about it but Scott and Dancer are big contributors to the demise of poker. So be it and I live with it. Paladin is merely expressing his opinion about the current state of gambling and why he thinks it has taken a dive. Why does he need to get a life? Its just like this group to give someone a hard time unless they agree with everything here. Are you people going to turn him into another Rob Singer? Teaching comps is fine but teaching advantage VP play publicly and consulting with the casinos has killed it just as Blackjack died years ago. In the last 25 years I have seen Blackjack just take a super dive, to the point its just not fun anymore. Poker is getting to that point; less play time and comps and more money being fed into the machines. I don't mind losing and just being entertained for a while but at this rate its almost not worth it.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Ann Gauvin <ride3843@> wrote:
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> Paladin says:
> >
> > Jean loves to trot out that "teach a person to fish..." line. Here's
> > the problem...breaking...the pond is just about dry. Wonder how that
> > happened?
> >
> >
> > What I think galls me most is that I probably know more in my
> > fingernail about advantage play than both of them combined.>>>
>
> Someone who has to announce this at every opportunity, probably
> doesn't really "know more in my fingernail..." than anyone.
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> >
> > "Going back to Jean for a moment, she's playing for .4 tops, and
> > she's not seeing that .4 until the state of Indiana refunds her
> > dough next year. Yes, I know she's from near (or near enough)
> > Hammond, but it's a reflection on how bad things in Vegas are when
> > someone who would prefer the play be called into them and drive up
> > to their house would get on a plane and risk $50K or so playing
> > something marginal trying to win a car they'd likely never drive
> > anyway."
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> Your envy is showing...you do not have any idea what she is playing
> for, and, it is none of your business. Jean Scott is a gracious and
> generous woman who works very hard for the success she has achieved.
> It's too bad that you are so jealous that you cannot seem to leave the
> subject of Jean alone. Get a life. Annie
>