Jackpot with Different Players Card

[bjaygold]

Another really good reason to not leave your card in the machine when you
leave, or even when you take a restroom break! It should be okay if you have a
slot floorperson watch your machine, as they should not allow someone to grab
your card.

Not only is this thief taking advantage of your having forgotten your card,
but in downloading the free play he is also adding on a zero play day for you!

I admire his cleverness, but think some time in prison would be well
deserved.

Brian

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In a message dated 5/7/2008 12:39:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
gambling@swina.com writes:

Recently, the Palms ran a drawing promotion where if you swiped to enter
before 6:50 pm, $5 in free play was loaded on the card after the drawing.

As I was sitting at a machine, I saw someone sit next to me with a thick
stack of cards - and he was putting in each card, downloading the free play,
playing it off and cashing out. He must have done this, seriously, 15 to 20
times in a row. And not the least bit discretely at all.

I was absolutely stunned at the guy's audacity.

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[Bob3]

if there is any message coming through after all these posts, it is "it depends on the
casino". I'll add to that.

Last December I went to Las Vegas with my wife, a friend, and my daughter and a couple
of her friends. I set my daughter and her crew up with a free offer at one casino, but
wanted my friend to stay where we were staying (a different chain from where I put my
daughter). I asked the host who had just recently been assigned to my account to comp
two rooms, an extra show ticket, etc. I had only played there a couple of times before, and
I had not met the host before, though I had given them respectable play on my two prior
visits. At first he was reluctant, suggesting that he might be able to get casino rates for
the extra room, a break on the price of he show, etc - but finally (and to my surprise) he
came through with everything I asked (I'm thankful for following Jean Scott's advice:
"ASK!")

He asked me, though, to pick up a couple of extra players' club cards in my name from
the boothies, and ask my wife and friend to use them for at least some, if not all, of their
play. Obviously, he wanted the play to show on my account to justify his generosity in
comps. I told him I'd be happy to do that, but asked if that wasn't likely to get me or my
group in trouble. His reply: "We don't encourage playing on others' cards, but there's no
chance that you or I will get in trouble doing this. If that weren't true, I wouldn't ask it of
you - and it will help me."

I hit a royal on a $1 machine. Nobody else in my party hit a jackpot, but I'd place a
reasonable wager that I'd have not gotten into any major trouble if they had. Even without
the jackpot making things obvious, it could have surfaced easily that more than one of me
was often playing at the same time.

(I'm not mentioning the specific casinos involved since I see no point in even a remote risk
of causing trouble for a host who went out of his way to help me.)

Go figger.

Bob in San Antonio

[Mickey]

Excellent analysis, Bob. Thanks for the response. Now, if we can
just get than well known VP critic, with his avowed connections in
the industry, to get you the offer....

if there is any message coming through after all these posts, it

is "it depends on the

casino". I'll add to that.

Last December I went to Las Vegas with my wife, a friend, and my

daughter and a couple

of her friends. I set my daughter and her crew up with a free

offer at one casino, but

wanted my friend to stay where we were staying (a different chain

from where I put my

daughter). I asked the host who had just recently been assigned to

my account to comp

two rooms, an extra show ticket, etc. I had only played there a

couple of times before, and

I had not met the host before, though I had given them respectable

play on my two prior

visits. At first he was reluctant, suggesting that he might be

able to get casino rates for

the extra room, a break on the price of he show, etc - but finally

(and to my surprise) he

came through with everything I asked (I'm thankful for following

Jean Scott's advice:

"ASK!")

He asked me, though, to pick up a couple of extra players' club

cards in my name from

the boothies, and ask my wife and friend to use them for at least

some, if not all, of their

play. Obviously, he wanted the play to show on my account to

justify his generosity in

comps. I told him I'd be happy to do that, but asked if that

wasn't likely to get me or my

group in trouble. His reply: "We don't encourage playing on

others' cards, but there's no

chance that you or I will get in trouble doing this. If that

weren't true, I wouldn't ask it of

you - and it will help me."

I hit a royal on a $1 machine. Nobody else in my party hit a

jackpot, but I'd place a

reasonable wager that I'd have not gotten into any major trouble

if they had. Even without

the jackpot making things obvious, it could have surfaced easily

that more than one of me

was often playing at the same time.

(I'm not mentioning the specific casinos involved since I see no

point in even a remote risk

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of causing trouble for a host who went out of his way to help me.)

Go figger.

Bob in San Antonio

[buddman415]

What makes you think this is a thief? An acquaintance of mine (really a
friend of a friend) was quite proud of having between 15 and 20 different
cards at the Palms so that he could collect the $5 free play. They all
belonged to him, he hadn't been picking up random abandoned slot cards!
Fraud was the word that came to my mind, and I'm glad that I'm not the only
one who thinks this way. And this isn't the only casino where he does
this. Everybody's got an angle on this game.........

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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:50 PM, <bjaygold@aol.com> wrote:

Another really good reason to not leave your card in the machine when you
leave, or even when you take a restroom break! It should be okay if you
have a
slot floorperson watch your machine, as they should not allow someone to
grab
your card.

Not only is this thief taking advantage of your having forgotten your
card,
but in downloading the free play he is also adding on a zero play day for
you!

I admire his cleverness, but think some time in prison would be well
deserved.

Brian

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In a message dated 5/7/2008 12:39:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
gambling@swina.com <gambling%40swina.com> writes:

Recently, the Palms ran a drawing promotion where if you swiped to enter
before 6:50 pm, $5 in free play was loaded on the card after the drawing.

As I was sitting at a machine, I saw someone sit next to me with a thick
stack of cards - and he was putting in each card, downloading the free
play,
playing it off and cashing out. He must have done this, seriously, 15 to
20
times in a row. And not the least bit discretely at all.

I was absolutely stunned at the guy's audacity.

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family
favorites at AOL Food.
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[pokegimp]

Another really good reason to not leave your card in the machine

when you

leave, or even when you take a restroom break! It should be okay if

you have a

slot floorperson watch your machine, as they should not allow

someone to grab

your card.

Not only is this thief taking advantage of your having forgotten

your card,

but in downloading the free play he is also adding on a zero play

day for you!

I admire his cleverness, but think some time in prison would be

well

deserved.

Brian

Wouldn't they still need to know your PIN to be able to download any
freeplay? I guess they could have the PIN changed, but I'm pretty
sure all club desk attendants are in the habit of asking for ID
whenever someone requests something like a PIN change. Now I suppose
that if the person had a friend working the desk, it could be done,
but I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to do that. It would be
pretty easy to track down the employee changing the PINs, and with
that miniscule $5 per pop having to be chopped, I can't imagine
anyone who would think it worth the loss of job and possible
prosecution.

I would guess it is more likely that the person got all these cards
through having friends, family, etc... sign up. Of course, I'm not
saying that is any more ethical, I'm just saying that I don't think
the person is collecting abandoned cards.

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