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Jackpot Photos

#1

For the amusement of our menbers, I have posted 3 jackpot photos.

Photos 1 & 2 : The _Proper Care & Feeding_ of a 2¢ 100-Play SDB
Machine (for a W2-G-Minus-One Non-Event, that is; and BTW that _other_ 7
of Hearts is a little strange).

Photo 2 : I'm Dreamin' Of The Queen Of Hearts.

The Dates & Locations have been changed to protect the Guilty.

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L. Wluiki

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#2

I see it was at Siena..but I never knew Siena to have 50 or 100 play machines...
Also, that dream card is a 9/6 JoB...that's a positive game with dream card isn't it?

#3

Thanks for those pictures since most people don't fully understand the effects of covariance on large N-Play games. Most people don't appreciate the massive variance and the huge losses between those dealt hands, respectively.

For example there are only 48 dealt quad aces in 2,598,960 hands or a dealt quad aces every 54,145 hands. Since quad aces account for 160 times your bet, 160/54,145 is 29.6 basis points of the 99.69% game. What that means is you didn't hit that dealt quad ace, you are playing a game at "effectively" a return of 99.39%. While it may be small on a percentage term, since you are playing 74 lines, the net effect is huge and thus the drain between these dealt hands on N-Play (370x2-cent or $7.40 per wager times 29.6 basis points means dealt quads aces is about 2.2 cent drain per hand if you never hit it). Also, don't forget the base variance is already high at 37.95.

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--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "lwluiki" <l-wluiki@...> wrote:

For the amusement of our menbers, I have posted 3 jackpot photos.

Photos 1 & 2 : The _Proper Care & Feeding_ of a 2¢ 100-Play SDB
Machine (for a W2-G-Minus-One Non-Event, that is; and BTW that _other_ 7
of Hearts is a little strange).

#4

And how many basis points is dealt quad aces if you're playing single line?

Cogno

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE_R…@…com] On
Behalf Of fordscks
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:42 AM
To: vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE_Reno] Re: Jackpot Photos

Thanks for those pictures since most people don't fully understand the
effects of covariance on large N-Play games. Most people don't appreciate
the massive variance and the huge losses between those dealt hands,
respectively.

For example there are only 48 dealt quad aces in 2,598,960 hands or a dealt
quad aces every 54,145 hands. Since quad aces account for 160 times your
bet, 160/54,145 is 29.6 basis points of the 99.69% game. What that means is
you didn't hit that dealt quad ace, you are playing a game at "effectively"
a return of 99.39%. While it may be small on a percentage term, since you
are playing 74 lines, the net effect is huge and thus the drain between
these dealt hands on N-Play (370x2-cent or $7.40 per wager times 29.6 basis
points means dealt quads aces is about 2.2 cent drain per hand if you never
hit it). Also, don't forget the base variance is already high at 37.95.

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "lwluiki" <l-wluiki@...> wrote:

For the amusement of our menbers, I have posted 3 jackpot photos.

Photos 1 & 2 : The _Proper Care & Feeding_ of a 2¢ 100-Play SDB
Machine (for a W2-G-Minus-One Non-Event, that is; and BTW that _other_ 7
of Hearts is a little strange).

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#5

I just died a little, reading that.

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--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "fordscks" <jason_c_vp@...> wrote:

Thanks for those pictures since most people don't fully understand the effects of covariance on large N-Play games. Most people don't appreciate the massive variance and the huge losses between those dealt hands, respectively.

For example there are only 48 dealt quad aces in 2,598,960 hands or a dealt quad aces every 54,145 hands. Since quad aces account for 160 times your bet, 160/54,145 is 29.6 basis points of the 99.69% game. What that means is you didn't hit that dealt quad ace, you are playing a game at "effectively" a return of 99.39%. While it may be small on a percentage term, since you are playing 74 lines, the net effect is huge and thus the drain between these dealt hands on N-Play (370x2-cent or $7.40 per wager times 29.6 basis points means dealt quads aces is about 2.2 cent drain per hand if you never hit it). Also, don't forget the base variance is already high at 37.95.

#6

Cogno:

You are being oleaginous and unctuous as usual. Even your singing pig can smell it was a rhectorical question.

Cheers

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--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@...> wrote:

And how many basis points is dealt quad aces if you're playing single line?

Cogno

#7

I'll just slither away then...

Cogno

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE_R…@…com] On
Behalf Of fordscks
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:06 PM
To: vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE_Reno] Re: Jackpot Photos

Cogno:

You are being oleaginous and unctuous as usual. Even your singing pig can
smell it was a rhectorical question.

Cheers

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@...>
wrote:

And how many basis points is dealt quad aces if you're playing single

line?

Cogno

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