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Is it really possible to make $ playing 9/6 jacks ?

As a beginner:
i would rather play 9/6 SLOWLY for higher stakes, say $5 per hand.
Make less (hopefully no) mistakes.
What sort of total return could be expected under current conditions,
ie cash back, bounce back cash etc?

Which casino? How often will you play? How long each session? Over
what period of time? There are so many variables and each casino is
different, there is no way to answer your question in its present form.

Rick

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lama1999" <ayhud945@h...> wrote:

As a beginner:
i would rather play 9/6 SLOWLY for higher stakes, say $5 per hand.
Make less (hopefully no) mistakes.
What sort of total return could be expected under current conditions,
ie cash back, bounce back cash etc?

In many cases (if I understand correctly) the various comps that you
can get are based on your coin-in, i.e. you'll get exactly the same
comps playing 200 HPH on a $1 machine or 800 HPH on a 25c machine.

Beyond that, it depends very much on the casino you play in. Comps are
different in pretty much every casino.

Two details worth mentioning:

-in some casinos, some $1 machines are in the high-limit area. Enjoy
the perks that you can get there.

-playing few hands will result in a game with very high volatility. To
mitigate the effects, you may want to play the same amount on
multi-line machines. You can expect the same average results, but with
a lot less volatility (and with the added advantage that you probably
won't have to deal with a W-2G). Finding such machines might be
tricky, though.

JBQ

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On 6/25/05, lama1999 <ayhud945@hotmail.com> wrote:

As a beginner:
i would rather play 9/6 SLOWLY for higher stakes, say $5 per hand.
Make less (hopefully no) mistakes.
What sort of total return could be expected under current conditions,
ie cash back, bounce back cash etc?

Bounceback cash is usually difficult to analyze and may be
dependent on a lot of variables.

A very attractive 9/6 JoB play with pretty straight forward
bounceback cash is Ellis Island LV.

25c/50c/$1/$2/$5 9/6 JoB

5 x 0.1% CB on Fridays this month

Very attractive BBC program. See chart on DataBase page:

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Elli.htm

vpFREE Administrator

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On 26 Jun 2005 at 1:21, lama1999 wrote:

As a beginner:
i would rather play 9/6 SLOWLY for higher stakes, say $5 per hand. Make
less (hopefully no) mistakes. What sort of total return could be
expected under current conditions, ie cash back, bounce back cash etc?

-Thanks for your answer:
Let me see if i have this correct.

If i were to play (perfectly) on 5x point day
i receive .50 in cashback and lose .50 (theoretically,
long haul, etc)on the game. Break even so far.

Now over the 6 month period i play, say, $24,000 coin-in.
This then means i get 6 X 15 in bounce back cash, $90?

If so, it equals a total edge of .375. So playing
600 hands per hour times $5 = 3000;
3000 x .0375 = $11.25 per hour.

Sounds right?

God bless.

> As a beginner:
> i would rather play 9/6 SLOWLY for higher stakes, say $5 per

hand. Make

> less (hopefully no) mistakes. What sort of total return could be
> expected under current conditions, ie cash back, bounce back cash

etc?

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-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpFREE" <vpFREE@C...> wrote:

On 26 Jun 2005 at 1:21, lama1999 wrote:

Bounceback cash is usually difficult to analyze and may be
dependent on a lot of variables.

A very attractive 9/6 JoB play with pretty straight forward
bounceback cash is Ellis Island LV.

25c/50c/$1/$2/$5 9/6 JoB

5 x 0.1% CB on Fridays this month

Very attractive BBC program. See chart on DataBase page:

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Elli.htm

vpFREE Administrator

The reasoning seems OK up to the "break even thanks to cashback" part.
I have the feeling that you can't quite rely on BBC the same way you
could rely on plain cashback.

Be careful to not think too much in terms of "averages" for such small
number of hands. In 4800 hands ($24000 at $5 per hand), all you can
expect is (approximately) a 11% chance of having a RF and 40% of a SF
(and even the number of 4aok will show quite some variation). The
"long haul" where the number of RFs events out typically considered to
be in millions of hands.

JBQ

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On 6/26/05, lama1999 <ayhud945@hotmail.com> wrote:

If so, it equals a total edge of .375. So playing
600 hands per hour times $5 = 3000;
3000 x .0375 = $11.25 per hour.

Sounds right?

You'll get 6 x $15 BBC for six months for a total of $540,
if you do the $24,000 coin-in in one calendar month.
The BBC program may be restricted to LV locals, and you
would need to be a local to take full advantage.

vpFREE Administrator

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On 26 Jun 2005 at 19:35, lama1999 wrote:

Now over the 6 month period i play, say, $24,000 coin-in.
This then means i get 6 X 15 in bounce back cash, $90?