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IS IT ALIVE?

Guys, Here's something interesting to ponder about video poker
that I found while reading Miron Stabinsky's & Jeremy Silman's "Zen
and the Art of Casino Gaming." ( Summit Publishing, 1995 )

   "Randomness is an indifferent, uncaring bitch." --VP Pappy
                                                                      
                    IS IT ALIVE?

   "Although these electronic machines are supposed to give purely
random results, some of the people in the know insist that video
poker machines have crossed the border and entered into a sort of
twilight zone. They say certain computer chips often begin to act
differently than others and this "personality" creates certain trends
that the player might be able to take advantage of.
   I must admit that I don't completely buy this point of view, but
out of curiosity I sat down with a well-known casino's top slot man
(Harold) and asked some questions.

QUESTION?: What's all this rubbish about these video poker machines
being alive?

   "Of course they're not alive, but some of these machines do show a
personality that sets them apart from the norm. Instead of giving you
a truly random deal, which is what they are supposed to do, these odd
machines will religiously hand you certain combinations of cards. A
sharp player can take advantage of this.
   "For example, let's supposed that your machine keeps giving you
lots of sevens. You take note of this and, after playing for awhile,
find yourself facing a horrible hand with a single seven and lots of
other unrelated cards. The best thing to do is to keep this seven,
even if this is not the right thing to do as far as the basic odds
are concerned. Your demented machine may very likely throw another
couple of sevens your way and leave you with trips or even a boat."

QUESTION: This is insane! Does anybody really believe this stuff? How
is it possible?

   "Originally, these poker machines had only one chip and only one
standard deck of fifty-two cards. The house got blasted, though, when
the players noticed these personality trends and made use of them. It
became so obvious that the casino laid out a tremendous amount of
extra money and had up to seven computer chips placed in each
machine; each chip represents a new deck of cards so, personality or
no personality, the alternating chips brought back the randomness
that the house wanted. It works like this: the first time you ask for
cards to be dealt, you get action from one deck/chip. The next time
you are dealt cards, the second deck/chip is used. And on and on.
   "As for how a computer personality is possible, I think it all
hinges around the effects of magnetic fields. In electromagnetism,
which is essentially the system that makes a random probability
character generator work, you're dealing with electronic fields of
magnetism that form recurring patterns. Theoretically, these fields
have a physical influence on the chip that might create small periods
of time which numbers repeat then selves."

QUESTION: It sounds like the same wishful thinking that I've seen in
all the table games. You notice field numbers in craps repeating over
and over again, or you feel that the dealer is hitting twenty-one way
too often in blackjack. These things happen all the time, but it
really doesn't mean anything at all. If you began to count on these
mystical factors to come to your aid, you will be setting yourself up
for a big fall.
   "Miron, I agree with you as far as the law of probabilities or
superstition goes, but here we are talking about an actual physical
influence. You have to understand that the computer aspects of a
poker machine operate at a very low energy output; something like two
volts. The sad thing is that these chips are stuck inside a steel-
lined case which has a video monitor on top of it running on 40,000
active volts. This creates a tremendous field --energy that might be
doing all sorts of strange things to you and to the microchip.
   "Just imagine two-volt character generators hovering around all
that energy. I've seen dozens of strange things come out on the
display panel. We've had royal flushes come up and go away without
the customer even touching the panel buttons. I had a guy walk up to
the screen, put his finger on it, and it sparked. Nine-hundred
credits magically appeared on the monitor! He ask to cash out and I
had to pay him those nine-hundred coins."

I have yet to have one talk back to me no matter how
much I talk to it!

     Guys, Here's something interesting to ponder
about video poker
that I found while reading Miron Stabinsky's &
Jeremy Silman's "Zen
and the Art of Casino Gaming." ( Summit Publishing,
1995 )

   "Randomness is an indifferent, uncaring bitch."
--VP Pappy
                                                    
                    IS IT ALIVE?

   "Although these electronic machines are supposed
to give purely
random results, some of the people in the know
insist that video
poker machines have crossed the border and entered
into a sort of
twilight zone. They say certain computer chips often
begin to act
differently than others and this "personality"
creates certain trends
that the player might be able to take advantage of.
   I must admit that I don't completely buy this
point of view, but
out of curiosity I sat down with a well-known
casino's top slot man
(Harold) and asked some questions.

QUESTION?: What's all this rubbish about these video
poker machines
being alive?

   "Of course they're not alive, but some of these
machines do show a
personality that sets them apart from the norm.
Instead of giving you
a truly random deal, which is what they are supposed
to do, these odd
machines will religiously hand you certain
combinations of cards. A
sharp player can take advantage of this.
   "For example, let's supposed that your machine
keeps giving you
lots of sevens. You take note of this and, after
playing for awhile,
find yourself facing a horrible hand with a single
seven and lots of
other unrelated cards. The best thing to do is to
keep this seven,
even if this is not the right thing to do as far as
the basic odds
are concerned. Your demented machine may very likely
throw another
couple of sevens your way and leave you with trips
or even a boat."

QUESTION: This is insane! Does anybody really
believe this stuff? How
is it possible?

   "Originally, these poker machines had only one
chip and only one
standard deck of fifty-two cards. The house got
blasted, though, when
the players noticed these personality trends and
made use of them. It
became so obvious that the casino laid out a
tremendous amount of
extra money and had up to seven computer chips
placed in each
machine; each chip represents a new deck of cards
so, personality or
no personality, the alternating chips brought back
the randomness
that the house wanted. It works like this: the first
time you ask for
cards to be dealt, you get action from one
deck/chip. The next time
you are dealt cards, the second deck/chip is used.
And on and on.
   "As for how a computer personality is possible, I
think it all
hinges around the effects of magnetic fields. In
electromagnetism,
which is essentially the system that makes a random
probability
character generator work, you're dealing with
electronic fields of
magnetism that form recurring patterns.
Theoretically, these fields
have a physical influence on the chip that might
create small periods
of time which numbers repeat then selves."

QUESTION: It sounds like the same wishful thinking
that I've seen in
all the table games. You notice field numbers in
craps repeating over
and over again, or you feel that the dealer is
hitting twenty-one way
too often in blackjack. These things happen all the
time, but it
really doesn't mean anything at all. If you began to
count on these
mystical factors to come to your aid, you will be
setting yourself up
for a big fall.
   "Miron, I agree with you as far as the law of
probabilities or
superstition goes, but here we are talking about an
actual physical
influence. You have to understand that the computer
aspects of a
poker machine operate at a very low energy output;
something like two
volts. The sad thing is that these chips are stuck
inside a steel-
lined case which has a video monitor on top of it
running on 40,000
active volts. This creates a tremendous field
--energy that might be
doing all sorts of strange things to you and to the
microchip.
   "Just imagine two-volt character generators
hovering around all
that energy. I've seen dozens of strange things come
out on the
display panel. We've had royal flushes come up and
go away without
the customer even touching the panel buttons. I had
a guy walk up to
the screen, put his finger on it, and it sparked.
Nine-hundred
credits magically appeared on the monitor! He ask to
cash out and I
had to pay him those nine-hundred coins."

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   Weird. But I will admit that I have sometimes thought I detected a
personality in some of the VP machines I've played over the years.
Not a warm fuzzy personality either, more like a nasty smart ass
taunting arrogance. For instance: you get dealt 777xx. You draw and
get 5,2 or 4,3 or 6,A. Then three hands later you draw to 999xx and
get 6,3 or 7,2 or 4,5. And so on. Every time (or so it seems) you
draw to trips, you get two cards that add up to the one you wanted.
It's as if that RNG under the glass is sticking its little electronic
tongue out at you.

JW

     Guys, Here's something interesting to ponder about video poker
that I found while reading Miron Stabinsky's & Jeremy

Silman's "Zen

and the Art of Casino Gaming." ( Summit Publishing, 1995 )

   "Randomness is an indifferent, uncaring bitch." --VP Pappy
                                                                    
                    IS IT ALIVE?

   "Although these electronic machines are supposed to give purely
random results, some of the people in the know insist that video
poker machines have crossed the border and entered into a sort of
twilight zone. They say certain computer chips often begin to act
differently than others and this "personality" creates certain

trends

that the player might be able to take advantage of.
   I must admit that I don't completely buy this point of view, but
out of curiosity I sat down with a well-known casino's top slot man
(Harold) and asked some questions.

QUESTION?: What's all this rubbish about these video poker machines
being alive?

   "Of course they're not alive, but some of these machines do show

a

personality that sets them apart from the norm. Instead of giving

you

a truly random deal, which is what they are supposed to do, these

odd

machines will religiously hand you certain combinations of cards. A
sharp player can take advantage of this.
   "For example, let's supposed that your machine keeps giving you
lots of sevens. You take note of this and, after playing for

awhile,

find yourself facing a horrible hand with a single seven and lots

of

other unrelated cards. The best thing to do is to keep this seven,
even if this is not the right thing to do as far as the basic odds
are concerned. Your demented machine may very likely throw another
couple of sevens your way and leave you with trips or even a boat."

QUESTION: This is insane! Does anybody really believe this stuff?

How

is it possible?

   "Originally, these poker machines had only one chip and only one
standard deck of fifty-two cards. The house got blasted, though,

when

the players noticed these personality trends and made use of them.

It

became so obvious that the casino laid out a tremendous amount of
extra money and had up to seven computer chips placed in each
machine; each chip represents a new deck of cards so, personality

or

no personality, the alternating chips brought back the randomness
that the house wanted. It works like this: the first time you ask

for

cards to be dealt, you get action from one deck/chip. The next time
you are dealt cards, the second deck/chip is used. And on and on.
   "As for how a computer personality is possible, I think it all
hinges around the effects of magnetic fields. In electromagnetism,
which is essentially the system that makes a random probability
character generator work, you're dealing with electronic fields of
magnetism that form recurring patterns. Theoretically, these fields
have a physical influence on the chip that might create small

periods

of time which numbers repeat then selves."

QUESTION: It sounds like the same wishful thinking that I've seen

in

all the table games. You notice field numbers in craps repeating

over

and over again, or you feel that the dealer is hitting twenty-one

way

too often in blackjack. These things happen all the time, but it
really doesn't mean anything at all. If you began to count on these
mystical factors to come to your aid, you will be setting yourself

up

for a big fall.
   "Miron, I agree with you as far as the law of probabilities or
superstition goes, but here we are talking about an actual physical
influence. You have to understand that the computer aspects of a
poker machine operate at a very low energy output; something like

two

volts. The sad thing is that these chips are stuck inside a steel-
lined case which has a video monitor on top of it running on 40,000
active volts. This creates a tremendous field --energy that might

be

doing all sorts of strange things to you and to the microchip.
   "Just imagine two-volt character generators hovering around all
that energy. I've seen dozens of strange things come out on the
display panel. We've had royal flushes come up and go away without
the customer even touching the panel buttons. I had a guy walk up

to

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the screen, put his finger on it, and it sparked. Nine-hundred
credits magically appeared on the monitor! He ask to cash out and I
had to pay him those nine-hundred coins."

And I hate to get in here but...........

How about the Action Gaming 3 play that will deal 3 spades straight
up when you are drawing to a 4 flush, clubs. I noticed pods sitting
on the top of a whole line of vp. That was strange.

Cheers....Jeep
.
.

>
   Weird. But I will admit that I have sometimes thought I detected

a

personality in some of the VP machines I've played over the years.
Not a warm fuzzy personality either, more like a nasty smart ass
taunting arrogance. For instance: you get dealt 777xx. You draw and
get 5,2 or 4,3 or 6,A. Then three hands later you draw to 999xx and
get 6,3 or 7,2 or 4,5. And so on. Every time (or so it seems) you
draw to trips, you get two cards that add up to the one you wanted.
It's as if that RNG under the glass is sticking its little

electronic

tongue out at you.

JW

> Guys, Here's something interesting to ponder about video

poker

> that I found while reading Miron Stabinsky's & Jeremy
Silman's "Zen
> and the Art of Casino Gaming." ( Summit Publishing, 1995 )
>
> "Randomness is an indifferent, uncaring bitch." --VP Pappy

>
>
>

> IS IT ALIVE?
>
> "Although these electronic machines are supposed to give

purely

> random results, some of the people in the know insist that video
> poker machines have crossed the border and entered into a sort of
> twilight zone. They say certain computer chips often begin to act
> differently than others and this "personality" creates certain
trends
> that the player might be able to take advantage of.
> I must admit that I don't completely buy this point of view,

but

> out of curiosity I sat down with a well-known casino's top slot

man

> (Harold) and asked some questions.
>
> QUESTION?: What's all this rubbish about these video poker

machines

> being alive?
>
> "Of course they're not alive, but some of these machines do

show

a
> personality that sets them apart from the norm. Instead of giving
you
> a truly random deal, which is what they are supposed to do, these
odd
> machines will religiously hand you certain combinations of cards.

A

> sharp player can take advantage of this.
> "For example, let's supposed that your machine keeps giving

you

> lots of sevens. You take note of this and, after playing for
awhile,
> find yourself facing a horrible hand with a single seven and lots
of
> other unrelated cards. The best thing to do is to keep this

seven,

> even if this is not the right thing to do as far as the basic

odds

> are concerned. Your demented machine may very likely throw

another

> couple of sevens your way and leave you with trips or even a

boat."

>
> QUESTION: This is insane! Does anybody really believe this stuff?
How
> is it possible?
>
> "Originally, these poker machines had only one chip and only

one

> standard deck of fifty-two cards. The house got blasted, though,
when
> the players noticed these personality trends and made use of

them.

It
> became so obvious that the casino laid out a tremendous amount of
> extra money and had up to seven computer chips placed in each
> machine; each chip represents a new deck of cards so, personality
or
> no personality, the alternating chips brought back the randomness
> that the house wanted. It works like this: the first time you ask
for
> cards to be dealt, you get action from one deck/chip. The next

time

> you are dealt cards, the second deck/chip is used. And on and on.
> "As for how a computer personality is possible, I think it all
> hinges around the effects of magnetic fields. In

electromagnetism,

> which is essentially the system that makes a random probability
> character generator work, you're dealing with electronic fields

of

> magnetism that form recurring patterns. Theoretically, these

fields

> have a physical influence on the chip that might create small
periods
> of time which numbers repeat then selves."
>
> QUESTION: It sounds like the same wishful thinking that I've seen
in
> all the table games. You notice field numbers in craps repeating
over
> and over again, or you feel that the dealer is hitting twenty-one
way
> too often in blackjack. These things happen all the time, but it
> really doesn't mean anything at all. If you began to count on

these

> mystical factors to come to your aid, you will be setting

yourself

up
> for a big fall.
> "Miron, I agree with you as far as the law of probabilities or
> superstition goes, but here we are talking about an actual

physical

> influence. You have to understand that the computer aspects of a
> poker machine operate at a very low energy output; something like
two
> volts. The sad thing is that these chips are stuck inside a steel-
> lined case which has a video monitor on top of it running on

40,000

> active volts. This creates a tremendous field --energy that might
be
> doing all sorts of strange things to you and to the microchip.
> "Just imagine two-volt character generators hovering around

all

> that energy. I've seen dozens of strange things come out on the
> display panel. We've had royal flushes come up and go away

without

> the customer even touching the panel buttons. I had a guy walk up
to
> the screen, put his finger on it, and it sparked. Nine-hundred
> credits magically appeared on the monitor! He ask to cash out and

I

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> had to pay him those nine-hundred coins."