Here is the picture.
You sit down at a VP machine to play for a while. You notice the machine
next to you has about $19.65 worth of abandoned credits. You play your
machine for about 1 1/2 hours or more. No one comes to the machine next to
you to claim the abandoned credits.
Is the abandoned machine a set up by the department of gaming to see if
anyone tries to claim the coins besides the owner? What would you do?
Curious me.
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It's not likely a scam. It is probably a legitimate mistake. The department of gaming wouldn't care about abandoned credits unless there was a dispute over them.
What I would do is cash out the ticket and put it aside. If someone came looking for it I would hand it over to them. If no one showed up after a few hours I'd just keep the ticket. If it was a large amount of money like over $100 I would flag a floor-person and tell them.
The logic here is that a small amount of money turned over to the house would probably go unclaimed and the house would get the money, but a larger amount of money is more likely to be claimed by someone.
Regards
A.P.
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From: "VP Hearts heartsvp@gmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:27 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Is it a scam?
Here is the picture.
You sit down at a VP machine to play for a while. You notice the machine
next to you has about $19.65 worth of abandoned credits. You play your
machine for about 1 1/2 hours or more. No one comes to the machine next to
you to claim the abandoned credits.
Is the abandoned machine a set up by the department of gaming to see if
anyone tries to claim the coins besides the owner? What would you do?
Curious me.
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I wouldn't keep it if it was 5 cents. Seriously, there have been some bad consequences for keeping small amounts found on the floor or in a machine. My memory fails me at the moment but I seem to remember a little old lady getting treated very badly in some casino in Detroit or in that area. It's just not worth the hassle. And there are dozens of times when I see these vultures walking around "silver-mining/ticket-mining", they are just losers and probably get thrown out occasionally by Security. I just wouldn't mess with it. In fact, I saw a $5 on the floor once and I put my foot on it and stood there until I could flag Security or a tech. I always assume a camera is watching me in a casino at all times, I just purposely assume that. And I'm not going to give anyone any grounds to bar me if I can help it.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <ehpee@...> wrote :
It's not likely a scam. It is probably a legitimate mistake. The department of gaming wouldn't care about abandoned credits unless there was a dispute over them.
What I would do is cash out the ticket and put it aside. If someone came looking for it I would hand it over to them. If no one showed up after a few hours I'd just keep the ticket. If it was a large amount of money like over $100 I would flag a floor-person and tell them.
The logic here is that a small amount of money turned over to the house would probably go unclaimed and the house would get the money, but a larger amount of money is more likely to be claimed by someone.
Regards
A.P.
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You guys are reminding me of the good old days. Its a venerable old Las Vegas occupation. Credit hustling. It has lots of slang names, seagulling, silver mining, buffalo hunting, slot cruising, slot walking.
My choice was I could go to the day labor office or I could go slot cruising.
I had built a condo out of pallets and carpet remnants behind the Carpet Barn on Industrial. Into the Salvation Army Store next to the overpass on Main St. for a change of clothes, $5. Then a walk around the corner to the Bonanza St. Pool for a shower and a shave. Deposit the old clothes in the garbage can. And voila! I was looking just like the tourai. Time for some slot cruising.
Yessiree, Bob! Those were the good old days....Not!
Someone probably did not play thru their free play enough. They hit the cashout button and just walk out not noticing what the left. So you would likely have had to play thru to collect.
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I watch the ground where I walk. I've found countless change which I pocket(love those "lucky pennies). This includes a couple of red chips & I kept after I determined owner was not to be identified.Coupla years ago I found 3 black chips @ entrance to John by water fountain in plain site. Only 1 guy inside so it had to be his. For about 2 seconds I thought about pocketing it...I figured I was "probably" out of camera, but it would have close. I gave it to him. He offered me 1 as reward. I refused(I was ahead for the day & on my was out.
Last week as I walked to cashier there was folded $100 bill on floor. Cashier couldn't see it. I gave it to her & she knew who dropped it & gave it back to him when he came back. BTW, been back about 3 times since...winner each time. I'm a huge believer in karma, & would like to think I'ma Christian & most times try to do "the rite thing" Works for me at least.
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What I didn't include in my previous comments are that I had my worst trip in about 55 to Vegas by about 3 times. First time I've ever ran otta money & had to cash check. I'm coming back early May so sure hope the positive karma continues.
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Well,I have to say,I’d feign ignorance and put in $20 of my own money in the machine so I won’t arouse suspicion!
On Friday, April 29, 2016 9:47 AM, "denniseudaley@yahoo.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I watch the ground where I walk\. I've found countless change which I pocket\(love those "lucky pennies\)\. This includes a couple of red chips & I kept after I determined owner was not to be identified\.Coupla years ago I found 3 black chips @ entrance to John by water fountain in plain site\. Only 1 guy inside so it had to be his\. For about 2 seconds I thought about pocketing it\.\.\.I figured I was "probably" out of camera, but it would have close\. I gave it to him\. He offered me 1 as reward\. I refused\(I was ahead for the day & on my was out\.
Last week as I walked to cashier there was folded $100 bill on floor. Cashier couldn't see it. I gave it to her & she knew who dropped it & gave it back to him when he came back. BTW, been back about 3 times since...winner each time. I'm a huge believer in karma, & would like to think I'ma Christian & most times try to do "the rite thing" Works for me at least.
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BBT wrote: " My memory fails me at the moment but I seem to remember a little old lady getting treated very badly in some casino in Detroit or in that area."
Things can get pretty dicey with casino security - USATODAY.com http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2006-09-07-casino-security_x.htm
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Just to be clear, the PARKING LOT is fair game. I can spot a $10 bill in the street from a hundred yards, and I'm nearsighted as a bat. And don't get in my way.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <beaverjoe277@...> wrote :
Well,I have to say,I’d feign ignorance and put in $20 of my own money in the machine so I won’t arouse suspicion!
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A friend and I once spotted a $10 bill on the sidewalk at roughly the same time. He bent over to grab it as I simultaneously went to stomp on it lest a sudden gust of wind cause it to blow away. His fingers got there first, but he said it was worth it 
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, bobbartop@yahoo.com [vpFREE] wrote:
Just to be clear, the PARKING LOT is fair game. I can spot a $10 bill in the street from a hundred yards, and I'm nearsighted as a bat. And don't get in my way.
Thank you, Iguana. YES, that was it! Estella Romanski at Motor City Casino in Detroit. I couldn't pull it out of my memory. But that was it. Yes indeed.
Got to keep a reign on those little old ladies.
-BB
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote :
BBT wrote: " My memory fails me at the moment but I seem to remember a little old lady getting treated very badly in some casino in Detroit or in that area."
Things can get pretty dicey with casino security - USATODAY.com http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2006-09-07-casino-security_x.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2006-09-07-casino-security_x.htm
Things can get pretty dicey with casino security - USAT... http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2006-09-07-casino-security_x.htm Las Vegas isn't all fun and games for gamblers. So says Bob Nersesian, a veteran attorney who has made a career representing high rollers in S...
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I remember on one trip to Vegas, I think I was getting out of my car in the Mandalay parking garage, and I immediately saw several $100 bills folded in half on the ground. You can probably guess the end of this story, they were just a gimmick advertisement to something, probably a strip club or something. But for a moment my heart stopped beating. What a dirty trick.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <zorak@...> wrote :
A friend and I once spotted a $10 bill on the sidewalk at roughly the same
time. He bent over to grab it as I simultaneously went to stomp on it
lest a sudden gust of wind cause it to blow away. His fingers got there
first, but he said it was worth it
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Estella found a nickel token in a slot machine tray for which they rousted her. She had the last laugh though. She cashed the lawsuit in the hundreds of thousands.
Albert Pearson wrote:
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The logic here is that a small amount of money turned over to the house would probably go unclaimed and the house would get the money.
Regards
A.P.
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I believe that any money found in a casino "technically" does not belong to anyone, including the casino. It is considered abandoned property and therefore must be escheated (a fancy word for given) to the State.
Would be interesting to find out how much money the casinos in Nevada escheat to the state each year.
Don the Dentist
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I understand what you are saying and that should probably happen with found cash.
In a scenario where money is left as credits on a machine someone would have to print out the ticket.
If the casino printed out the ticket, they could put it on file to be claimed and then what happens after the ticket expires. For that matter what happens with the money that does not get redeemed when tourists go home and realize they have a leftover ticket for a few bucks and just toss the ticket. If you extrapolate the number of tourists coming into town I would expect that there is a reasonable amount of money that is unclaimed. I for one would love to know if that all gets turned over to the state or how much is just left to become expired tickets ?
Regards
A.P.
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From: "dds2124@centurylink.net [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Is it a scam?
Albert Pearson wrote:
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The logic here is that a small amount of money turned over to the house would probably go unclaimed and the house would get the money.
Regards
A.P.
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I believe that any money found in a casino "technically" does not belong to anyone, including the casino. It is considered abandoned property and therefore must be escheated (a fancy word for given) to the State.
Would be interesting to find out how much money the casinos in Nevada escheat to the state each year.
Don the Dentist
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