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interesting progressive Deuces Wild

Trying to analyze a DW progressive but having trouble searching the web for something thatwould work...

10 play deuces wild.
only difference from a FPDW paytable is SF goes up 1 and 4 of a kind goes down 1.
4 of the progressives are sitting at 5000 coin
2 of the progressives are sitting at 4500 coin
the other 4 are between 4000 and 4500 coin.

there is also a progressive for a dealt royal, but I am not factoring that in because the chance of hitting that is so minute.

Trying to calculate the base pay without the progressives, also trying to calculate at what point the progressives become worht it, and how it being a 10 play effectsit.

Thanks in advance.

Ed M

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The base game is terrible at 94.91%. If you have any of the standard vp
software you should use the average of the progressives to adjust the RF
value for a return.

That would work at vpgenius.com for example.

Without the dealt royal, you would need over 13,000 coin average for this to
be break-even.

YUCK!

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Ed
Mehnert
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:17 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

Trying to analyze a DW progressive but having trouble searching the web for
something thatwould work...

10 play deuces wild.
only difference from a FPDW paytable is SF goes up 1 and 4 of a kind goes
down 1.
4 of the progressives are sitting at 5000 coin
2 of the progressives are sitting at 4500 coin
the other 4 are between 4000 and 4500 coin.

there is also a progressive for a dealt royal, but I am not factoring that
in because the chance of hitting that is so minute.

Trying to calculate the base pay without the progressives, also trying to
calculate at what point the progressives become worht it, and how it being a
10 play effectsit.

Thanks in advance.

Ed M

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I think you transposed numbers if the dw game is 16/9/4/4 vpfree says 99.4% and from memory a royal around 5000 should make this game just about 100%. Have to plug the numbers in to be precise.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: pyiddy@att.net
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:55:10 -0500
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

      The base game is terrible at 94.91%. If you have any of the standard vp

software you should use the average of the progressives to adjust the RF

value for a return.

That would work at vpgenius.com for example.

Without the dealt royal, you would need over 13,000 coin average for this to

be break-even.

YUCK!

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Ed

Mehnert

Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:17 PM

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

Trying to analyze a DW progressive but having trouble searching the web for

something thatwould work...

10 play deuces wild.

only difference from a FPDW paytable is SF goes up 1 and 4 of a kind goes

down 1.

4 of the progressives are sitting at 5000 coin

2 of the progressives are sitting at 4500 coin

the other 4 are between 4000 and 4500 coin.

there is also a progressive for a dealt royal, but I am not factoring that

in because the chance of hitting that is so minute.

Trying to calculate the base pay without the progressives, also trying to

calculate at what point the progressives become worht it, and how it being a

10 play effectsit.

Thanks in advance.

Ed M

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Whoops meant 15/10/4/4 typo

To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
From: smellypuppy@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:36:18 -0700
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

I think you transposed numbers if the dw game is 16/9/4/4 vpfree says 99.4% and from memory a royal around 5000 should make this game just about 100%. Have to plug the numbers in to be precise.

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: pyiddy@att.net
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:55:10 -0500
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

      The base game is terrible at 94.91%. If you have any of the standard vp

software you should use the average of the progressives to adjust the RF

value for a return.

That would work at vpgenius.com for example.

Without the dealt royal, you would need over 13,000 coin average for this to

be break-even.

YUCK!

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Ed

Mehnert

Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:17 PM

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

Trying to analyze a DW progressive but having trouble searching the web for

something thatwould work...

10 play deuces wild.

only difference from a FPDW paytable is SF goes up 1 and 4 of a kind goes

down 1.

4 of the progressives are sitting at 5000 coin

2 of the progressives are sitting at 4500 coin

the other 4 are between 4000 and 4500 coin.

there is also a progressive for a dealt royal, but I am not factoring that

in because the chance of hitting that is so minute.

Trying to calculate the base pay without the progressives, also trying to

calculate at what point the progressives become worht it, and how it being a

10 play effectsit.

Thanks in advance.

Ed M

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A rough estimate is that your average perfect play would be about 99.8%, but the big thing is strategy. You used fpdw as the benchmark and a 4/4 dw game has some strategy differences that would crush your return if you don't alter the strategy.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: pyiddy@att.net
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:55:10 -0500
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

      The base game is terrible at 94.91%. If you have any of the standard vp

software you should use the average of the progressives to adjust the RF

value for a return.

That would work at vpgenius.com for example.

Without the dealt royal, you would need over 13,000 coin average for this to

be break-even.

YUCK!

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Ed

Mehnert

Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:17 PM

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

Trying to analyze a DW progressive but having trouble searching the web for

something thatwould work...

10 play deuces wild.

only difference from a FPDW paytable is SF goes up 1 and 4 of a kind goes

down 1.

4 of the progressives are sitting at 5000 coin

2 of the progressives are sitting at 4500 coin

the other 4 are between 4000 and 4500 coin.

there is also a progressive for a dealt royal, but I am not factoring that

in because the chance of hitting that is so minute.

Trying to calculate the base pay without the progressives, also trying to

calculate at what point the progressives become worht it, and how it being a

10 play effectsit.

Thanks in advance.

Ed M

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No. He said FPDW schedule otherwise, so it would be 15/10/4/3/2/2/1.

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Tim Tucker <smellypuppy@hotmail.com> wrote:

I think you transposed numbers if the dw game is 16/9/4/4

Whoops, my bad. Sorry.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: vpkingfish@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:57:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: interesting progressive Deuces Wild

      On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Tim Tucker <smellypuppy@hotmail.com> wrote:

I think you transposed numbers if the dw game is 16/9/4/4

No. He said FPDW schedule otherwise, so it would be 15/10/4/3/2/2/1.

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