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Indian Casinos

#1

My question is......If this reservation is on sovereign territory

(Seminole

Reservation) why can't they have any kind of gambling they want, without

the

governmental hassles? Why is only Class 2 gaming allowed? But not Class

3?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Thank You
CF

In simplified terms, the Indian Gaming Control Act allows tribes to conduct
games that are permitted already within a given state. In order to branch
out to include other games, elections are held in most states. It's the
individual state's responsibility to enforce agreements with tribes, and
states do have the right to send authorities onto a reservation if
illegalities are suspected. But usually the order has to come directly from
a high authority, like the attorney general of a state.

lb

#2

And the Indian casinos near me find its cheaper to take the fines from the state than to have their machines set at the appropriate and agreed to minimum payback percentage which here is a dismal 85%. They have done this several times that they took a fine and thought nothing off it than having their slots pay right. and I am sure their VP is just as bad. I have also talked to slots techs that work in them and have quit cause they wanted chips installed that had as low as 30% payback rates YIKES!!!! Run don't walk from these places.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Lawrence Boxer
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:57 AM
  Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Indian Casinos

  >
  > My question is......If this reservation is on sovereign territory
  (Seminole
  > Reservation) why can't they have any kind of gambling they want, without
  the
  > governmental hassles? Why is only Class 2 gaming allowed? But not Class
  3?
  > Inquiring minds want to know.
  > Thank You
  > CF

  In simplified terms, the Indian Gaming Control Act allows tribes to conduct
  games that are permitted already within a given state. In order to branch
  out to include other games, elections are held in most states. It's the
  individual state's responsibility to enforce agreements with tribes, and
  states do have the right to send authorities onto a reservation if
  illegalities are suspected. But usually the order has to come directly from
  a high authority, like the attorney general of a state.

  lb

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#3

Would you care to reveal which state you live in.

Rick

And the Indian casinos near me find its cheaper to take the fines

from the state than to have their machines set at the appropriate and
agreed to minimum payback percentage which here is a dismal 85%. They
have done this several times that they took a fine and thought nothing
off it than having their slots pay right. and I am sure their VP is
just as bad. I have also talked to slots techs that work in them and
have quit cause they wanted chips installed that had as low as 30%
payback rates YIKES!!!! Run don't walk from these places.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "DJ GOOF" <lraney@g...> wrote:

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#4

Lawrence Boxer wrote:
"states do have the right to send authorities onto a reservation if
illegalities are suspected. But usually the order has to come directly from
a high authority, like the attorney general of a state.
Would anyone know if this has ever been done?

#5

Lawrence Boxer wrote:
"states do have the right to send authorities onto a reservation if
illegalities are suspected. But usually the order has to come directly
from
a high authority, like the attorney general of a state.

Would anyone know if this has ever been done?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "MHS" <mspevack@m...> wrote:

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Major controversy going on in Kansas City, Kansas, right now. Seems
the Winedot (sp?) tribe from Oklahoma owned a small plot of land that
was an ancient burial ground. They bought some property next door
which included a building on the National Historical Register and got
the Feds to declare it an Indian reservation (even though no Indians
from that tribe have lived in Kansas for a hundred years). Then in
spite of everything the state of Kansas could do, they opened a casino
on the property. Phil Kline, the state atty general, looking for any
excuse to shut them down came to KCK to inspect the building. He was
looking for any changes that would violate the Nat Hist Reg mandates.
The tribe refused to let him on to the property.

It ain't over yet.

Rick

#6

Oh Sorry forgot to put that. I am in Wisconsin.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Rick & Lucky Lucy
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:10 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Indian Casinos

  Would you care to reveal which state you live in.

  Rick

  --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "DJ GOOF" <lraney@g...> wrote:
  > And the Indian casinos near me find its cheaper to take the fines
  from the state than to have their machines set at the appropriate and
  agreed to minimum payback percentage which here is a dismal 85%. They
  have done this several times that they took a fine and thought nothing
  off it than having their slots pay right. and I am sure their VP is
  just as bad. I have also talked to slots techs that work in them and
  have quit cause they wanted chips installed that had as low as 30%
  payback rates YIKES!!!! Run don't walk from these places.
  > ----- Original Message -----

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