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INDIAN CASINOS

Nothing more than plan your goals carefully, don't play there in too long a sessions, and don't be surprised when very few big winners are hit. One thing they do that I know of out here is restrict certain winners for X amount of hands.

Good luck--Rob

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From: "belcula" <belcula@yahoo.com>
Date: 2003/09/12 Fri PM 12:13:54 EDT
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] INDIAN CASINOS

Rob Singer wrote:

One thing they do that I know of out here is restrict

certain winners
for X amount of hands.<

I play only IGT machines that state :" the game is
based on a 52 card deck". Are you saying it is
possible or likely that a CA Indian Casino can (or do)
set the machines to limit winning hands?

Thanks,
GB

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Yes. My information is from a 100% reliable source for here in Arizona, and
that means they can do it anywhere if they choose to. I would if I were in
charge of a self-regulated tribal casino.
  
Rob Singer wrote:

  >One thing they do that I know of out here is restrict certain winners
  for X amount of hands.<

  I play only IGT machines that state :" the game is
  based on a 52 card deck". Are you saying it is
  possible or likely that a CA Indian Casino can (or do)
  set the machines to limit winning hands?

  Thanks,
  GB

It would seem to me that modifying a game manufactured by IGT, etc.
would be illegal independent of the use of the game (i.e. gambling).
I'm sure IGT holds numerous patents and copywrites that would be
violated. I suspect some of these are even international. The reason
I bring up copywrites is because the "modified" game would look just
like the original IGT game.

I'm not a lawyer so maybe someone else could clarify.

Dick

Yes. My information is from a 100% reliable source for here in

Arizona, and

that means they can do it anywhere if they choose to. I would if I

were in

charge of a self-regulated tribal casino.
  
Rob Singer wrote:

  >One thing they do that I know of out here is restrict certain

winners

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Singer" <rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

  for X amount of hands.<

  I play only IGT machines that state :" the game is
  based on a 52 card deck". Are you saying it is
  possible or likely that a CA Indian Casino can (or do)
  set the machines to limit winning hands?

  Thanks,
  GB

--- In addition to the possible copyright violation, don't you need
someone from IGT to actually modify the RNG chip?
JW

It would seem to me that modifying a game manufactured by IGT, etc.
would be illegal independent of the use of the game (i.e.

gambling).

I'm sure IGT holds numerous patents and copywrites that would be
violated. I suspect some of these are even international. The

reason

I bring up copywrites is because the "modified" game would look

just

like the original IGT game.

I'm not a lawyer so maybe someone else could clarify.

Dick

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Singer" <rsinger1111@c...>

wrote:

>
> Yes. My information is from a 100% reliable source for here in
Arizona, and
> that means they can do it anywhere if they choose to. I would if

I

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In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

were in
> charge of a self-regulated tribal casino.
>
>
> Rob Singer wrote:
>
> >One thing they do that I know of out here is restrict certain
winners
> for X amount of hands.<
>
>
>
> I play only IGT machines that state :" the game is
> based on a 52 card deck". Are you saying it is
> possible or likely that a CA Indian Casino can (or do)
> set the machines to limit winning hands?
>
> Thanks,
> GB

I am sure there are unscrupulous casinos and game
manufacturers, however I cannot imagine IGT to be one.
They are a huge public company with too much at stake
to be modifiying VP machine to limit winners, even if
the casino requested it. On the other hand I don't
see how a Casino could modify the machine easily
either.However, maybe we all all "dupes".

Frank Scoblete in his book: "Victory at Video Poker"
questions if VP in Atlantic City is based on aa true
52 card random draw.

GB
  
Dick wrote:

It would seem to me that modifying a game

manufactured by IGT, etc.
would be illegal independent of the use of the game
(i.e. gambling).
I'm sure IGT holds numerous patents and copywrites
that would be
violated. I suspect some of these are even
international. The reason
I bring up copywrites is because the "modified" game
would look just
like the original IGT game.

I'm not a lawyer so maybe someone else could clarify.<

Dick<

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Singer"
<rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

Yes. My information is from a 100% reliable source

for here in
Arizona, and

that means they can do it anywhere if they choose

to. I would if I
were in

charge of a self-regulated tribal casino.
  
Rob Singer wrote:

  >One thing they do that I know of out here is

restrict certain
winners

  for X amount of hands.<

  I play only IGT machines that state :" the game is
  based on a 52 card deck". Are you saying it is
  possible or likely that a CA Indian Casino can (or

do)

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  set the machines to limit winning hands?

  Thanks,
  GB

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imo this book gives incorrect information so i question anything in
it. for example, look at the strategy for fpdw. the book says to
hold two pairs, hold a flush or straight containing two ducks, and
hold a straight flush containing three ducks. there are better vp
publications than this one.

Frank

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However, maybe we all all "dupes".

Frank Scoblete in his book: "Victory at Video Poker"
questions if VP in Atlantic City is based on aa true
52 card random draw.

glen bob wrote:

On the other hand I don't
see how a Casino could modify the machine easily
either.However, maybe we all all "dupes".

Very simple to do. Just replace the program chip. Takes less than a minute after machine is open. It's been done before.

Bob

glen bob wrote:
"Frank Scoblete in his book: "Victory at Video Poker"
questions if VP in Atlantic City is based on aa true
52 card random draw."
Based on what suspicions? The New Jersey Casino Control Commission is a lot
more thorough in checking RNG's than any conceivable reservation casino.
And as for manipulating chips, anyone realizes that they can swapped ever so
easily in machines like cable tuner boxes.

--- In addition to the possible copyright violation, don't you

need

someone from IGT to actually modify the RNG chip?

Some one, possiblly Tomflush , was going to check on this, I
thought.

DWK

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jaywilly240" <wha724@a...> wrote:

jaywilly240 asked:

In addition to the possible copyright violation, don't you need
someone from IGT to actually modify the RNG chip?

The cable TV companies can easily tell us just how many thousands of pirate
tuner boxes take their signals. The manufacturers surely have copyrights on
those sets, and look how easily they seem to be manipulated.

Has anyone in this group ever hit a jackpot at Harrah's- Cherokee?

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  From: MHS
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:33 PM
  Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: INDIAN CASINOS

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