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Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure you will
agree.

Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq: US expert

Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP

BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence on North
Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of weapons
of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US foreign policy
expert said in an article.

"Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented a worst-
case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted its
intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq), seriously
exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making uranium-
based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign Affairs
magazine.

Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for International Policy,
chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of former senior
US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.

The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of staff head
and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on the US
immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea come
clean on its alleged uranium program.

Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of Pyongyang's
plutonium facilities, it said.

Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and Japanese
intelligence sources who participated with the Central Intelligence
Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.

He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the stalling of
six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing an atomic
bomb with its plutonium program.

The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes," he said
in the magazine's December 17 issue.

This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese efforts at
reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open the option
of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison claimed.

In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's alleged
uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That deal had
frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange for energy
aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-proliferation-
proof light water nuclear reactors.

No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been presented
publicly.

In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its Yongbyon
facility.

It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for four to
six nuclear bombs, experts say.

"The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program has
grown since the United States announced it was no longer bound by
the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the hypothetical
threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program about which
little is known," said Harrison.

Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely based on
several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment technology,
including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum tubing to
make centrifuges.

The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between US
Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean Vice
Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington maintains Paek
admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.

Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring to the
processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.

This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.

"Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire uranium
issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on the more
immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium reprocessing
capiabilties," said Harrison.

"By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain data that
it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush administration has
blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea is known
to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about a week
unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back

Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your awake, I
know if you been bad or good so be good....................

Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.

Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure you will
agree.

Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq: US expert

Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP

BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence on North
Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of weapons
of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US foreign policy
expert said in an article.

"Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented a worst-
case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted its
intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq), seriously
exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making uranium-
based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign Affairs
magazine.

Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for International

Policy,

chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of former senior
US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.

The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of staff head
and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on the US
immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea come
clean on its alleged uranium program.

Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of Pyongyang's
plutonium facilities, it said.

Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and Japanese
intelligence sources who participated with the Central Intelligence
Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.

He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the stalling

of

six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing an atomic
bomb with its plutonium program.

The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes," he said
in the magazine's December 17 issue.

This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese efforts at
reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open the

option

of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison claimed.

In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's alleged
uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That deal had
frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange for

energy

aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-proliferation-
proof light water nuclear reactors.

No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been presented
publicly.

In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its Yongbyon
facility.

It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for four to
six nuclear bombs, experts say.

"The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program has
grown since the United States announced it was no longer bound by
the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the hypothetical
threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program about which
little is known," said Harrison.

Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely based

on

several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment technology,
including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum tubing to
make centrifuges.

The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between US
Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean Vice
Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington maintains Paek
admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.

Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring to the
processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.

This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.

"Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire uranium
issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on the more
immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium reprocessing
capiabilties," said Harrison.

"By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain data

that

it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush administration

has

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea is known
to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war, another
election, we probably could have been friends.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about a

week

unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back

Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your awake, I
know if you been bad or good so be good....................

Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
>
> Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure you

will

> agree.
>
> Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq: US

expert

>
> Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
>
> BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence on

North

> Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of

weapons

> of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US foreign

policy

> expert said in an article.
>
> "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented a

worst-

> case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted its
> intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq), seriously
> exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making

uranium-

> based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign Affairs
> magazine.
>
> Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for International
Policy,
> chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of former

senior

> US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
>
> The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of staff

head

> and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on the

US

> immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea come
> clean on its alleged uranium program.
>
> Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of

Pyongyang's

> plutonium facilities, it said.
>
> Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and Japanese
> intelligence sources who participated with the Central

Intelligence

> Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
>
> He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the

stalling

of
> six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing an

atomic

> bomb with its plutonium program.
>
> The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes," he

said

> in the magazine's December 17 issue.
>
> This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese efforts at
> reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open the
option
> of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison claimed.
>
> In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's alleged
> uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That deal

had

> frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange for
energy
> aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-

proliferation-

> proof light water nuclear reactors.
>
> No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been presented
> publicly.
>
> In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
> inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its Yongbyon
> facility.
>
> It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for four

to

> six nuclear bombs, experts say.
>
> "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program has
> grown since the United States announced it was no longer bound

by

> the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the

hypothetical

> threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program about

which

> little is known," said Harrison.
>
> Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely

based

on
> several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment

technology,

> including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum tubing to
> make centrifuges.
>
> The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between US
> Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean Vice
> Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington maintains

Paek

> admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
>
> Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring to the
> processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
>
> This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
> Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
>
> "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire

uranium

> issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on the

more

> immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium reprocessing
> capiabilties," said Harrison.
>
> "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain data
that
> it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush administration
has
> blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea is

known

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

> to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war, another
election, we probably could have been friends.

You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who has common
sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily be created
out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into following Kerry
the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's), another place
(the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-tweaked mind)
and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you woke up out of
that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might have a chance

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about a
week
> unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
>
> Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your awake, I
> know if you been bad or good so be good....................
>
> Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> >
> > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure you
will
> > agree.
> >
> > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq: US
expert
> >
> > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> >
> > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence on
North
> > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of
weapons
> > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US foreign
policy
> > expert said in an article.
> >
> > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented a
worst-
> > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted its
> > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq), seriously
> > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making
uranium-
> > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign Affairs
> > magazine.
> >
> > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for International
> Policy,
> > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of former
senior
> > US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
> >
> > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of staff
head
> > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on the
US
> > immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea

come

> > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> >
> > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
Pyongyang's
> > plutonium facilities, it said.
> >
> > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and

Japanese

> > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
Intelligence
> > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> >
> > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the
stalling
> of
> > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing an
atomic
> > bomb with its plutonium program.
> >
> > The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes," he
said
> > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> >
> > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese efforts at
> > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open the
> option
> > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison claimed.
> >
> > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's

alleged

> > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That deal
had
> > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange for
> energy
> > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
proliferation-
> > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> >
> > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been presented
> > publicly.
> >
> > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
> > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its Yongbyon
> > facility.
> >
> > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for

four

to
> > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> >
> > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program has
> > grown since the United States announced it was no longer bound
by
> > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
hypothetical
> > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program about
which
> > little is known," said Harrison.
> >
> > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely
based
> on
> > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
technology,
> > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum tubing

to

> > make centrifuges.
> >
> > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between US
> > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean Vice
> > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington maintains
Paek
> > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> >
> > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring to

the

> > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> >
> > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
> > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
> >
> > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire
uranium
> > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on the
more
> > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium reprocessing
> > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> >
> > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain data
> that
> > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush

administration

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:
at redemption. > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

> has
> > blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea is
known
> > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping peoples legs.
If this had anything to do with you, your name would have been
mentioned. Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is like
truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo, shooo, get
off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

>
> Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war, another
> election, we probably could have been friends.
>
You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who has

common

sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily be

created

out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into following

Kerry

the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's), another

place

(the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-tweaked mind)
and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you woke up out

of

that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might have a

chance

> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"

<three2theroyal@y...>

> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about a
> week
> > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> >
> > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your

awake, I

> > know if you been bad or good so be good....................
> >
> > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > >
> > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure

you

> will
> > > agree.
> > >
> > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq: US
> expert
> > >
> > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > >
> > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence

on

> North
> > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of
> weapons
> > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US foreign
> policy
> > > expert said in an article.
> > >
> > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented

a

> worst-
> > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted its
> > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq),

seriously

> > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making
> uranium-
> > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign

Affairs

> > > magazine.
> > >
> > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for International
> > Policy,
> > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of former
> senior
> > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
> > >
> > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of

staff

> head
> > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on

the

> US
> > > immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea
come
> > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > >
> > > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
> Pyongyang's
> > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > >
> > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and
Japanese
> > > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
> Intelligence
> > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > >
> > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the
> stalling
> > of
> > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing an
> atomic
> > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > >
> > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes,"

he

> said
> > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > >
> > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese efforts

at

> > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open

the

> > option
> > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison claimed.
> > >
> > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's
alleged
> > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That

deal

> had
> > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange

for

> > energy
> > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> proliferation-
> > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > >
> > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been presented
> > > publicly.
> > >
> > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
> > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its

Yongbyon

> > > facility.
> > >
> > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for
four
> to
> > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > >
> > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program

has

> > > grown since the United States announced it was no longer

bound

> by
> > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
> hypothetical
> > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program about
> which
> > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > >
> > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely
> based
> > on
> > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
> technology,
> > > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum

tubing

to
> > > make centrifuges.
> > >
> > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between

US

> > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean

Vice

> > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington maintains
> Paek
> > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> > >
> > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring to
the
> > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> > >
> > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-

Proliferation

> > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
> > >
> > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire
> uranium
> > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on

the

> more
> > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium reprocessing
> > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > >
> > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain

data

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

at redemption. > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:
> > that
> > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
administration
> > has
> > > blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea is
> known
> > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

John,

I came up with another name for the monkey boy. His enormous, over
inflated ego, which never allows him to admit he's wrong, tied back
into his constant desire to call everyone fat. So, from now on he
shall be know as Robese (long o, long e) Singer.

You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping peoples

legs.

If this had anything to do with you, your name would have been
mentioned. Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is like
truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo, shooo, get
off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war, another
> > election, we probably could have been friends.
> >
> You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who has
common
> sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily be
created
> out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into following
Kerry
> the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's), another
place
> (the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-tweaked

mind)

> and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you woke up

out

of
> that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might have a
chance
> > >
> > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<three2theroyal@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about

a

> > week
> > > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> > >
> > > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your
awake, I
> > > know if you been bad or good so be good....................
> > >
> > > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > > >
> > > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure
you
> > will
> > > > agree.
> > > >
> > > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq:

US

> > expert
> > > >
> > > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > > >
> > > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence
on
> > North
> > > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of
> > weapons
> > > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US

foreign

> > policy
> > > > expert said in an article.
> > > >
> > > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented
a
> > worst-
> > > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted

its

> > > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq),
seriously
> > > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making
> > uranium-
> > > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign
Affairs
> > > > magazine.
> > > >
> > > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for

International

> > > Policy,
> > > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of

former

> > senior
> > > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
> > > >
> > > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of
staff
> > head
> > > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on
the
> > US
> > > > immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea
> come
> > > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > > >
> > > > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
> > Pyongyang's
> > > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > > >
> > > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and
> Japanese
> > > > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
> > Intelligence
> > > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > > >
> > > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the
> > stalling
> > > of
> > > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing

an

> > atomic
> > > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > > >
> > > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes,"
he
> > said
> > > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > > >
> > > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese

efforts

at
> > > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open
the
> > > option
> > > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison

claimed.

> > > >
> > > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's
> alleged
> > > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That
deal
> > had
> > > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange
for
> > > energy
> > > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> > proliferation-
> > > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > > >
> > > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been

presented

> > > > publicly.
> > > >
> > > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
> > > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its
Yongbyon
> > > > facility.
> > > >
> > > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for
> four
> > to
> > > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > > >
> > > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program
has
> > > > grown since the United States announced it was no longer
bound
> > by
> > > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
> > hypothetical
> > > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program

about

> > which
> > > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > > >
> > > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely
> > based
> > > on
> > > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
> > technology,
> > > > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum
tubing
> to
> > > > make centrifuges.
> > > >
> > > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between
US
> > > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean
Vice
> > > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington

maintains

> > Paek
> > > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> > > >
> > > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring

to

> the
> > > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> > > >
> > > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-
Proliferation
> > > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
> > > >
> > > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire
> > uranium
> > > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on
the
> > more
> > > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium

reprocessing

> > > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > > >
> > > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain
data
> > > that
> > > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
> administration
> > > has
> > > > blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea

is

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:
> at redemption. > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> > wrote:
> > known
> > > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

Cmon Johnny boy don't go soft on me, who would I debate in here?
Dick doesn't really debate politics and I sure wouldn't go toe to toe
with him on math or computers, he'd ruin me. Rob has the same views
as I do so I can't debate him.

I love to debate but I don't take this stuff personally. Political
views are something that come from our surroundings, family, and life
experiences. They are not changed easily if ever but I don't think
you can intelligently debate your views without knowing what the
other side believes.

I take this for what it is. A faceless forum where you can debate
different views. Actually I've found that people are much more
willing to argue in this setting than they would face to face. There
seems to be a security knowing they don't need an immediate response
or the worry of being proven wrong. Look at how many times I've
proven you wrong and you keep coming back for more.. LOL....

I don't like to get into personal attacks doing this but with you it
was fun. I couldn't wait to see what your comebacks would be.
Nazi cum stain was the best. I was laughing so hard at that one my
wife asked me what was going on. High fives for that one, I never
heard it before.

Don't think this changes anything. You're still wrong on everything
you think and I'll be back to prove it. Go google your looney left
web sites and I'll show you how they are wrong. You really should owe
me a dinner after the time I've spent showing you the errors of your
ways but I won't hols my breath. You lefties are cheapskates.
Knowledge isn't cheap John Boy

One other thing John boy. I mentioned Ann Coulter and you said she
was dumb. If I had an hour with her I guarantee you her political
position would not be on my mind. If they would with you I think you
have more problems than I thought. Cmon Johnny Boy admit she's a
right wing babe.

Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war, another
election, we probably could have been friends.

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about a
week
> unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
>
> Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your awake, I
> know if you been bad or good so be good....................
>
> Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> >
> > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure you
will
> > agree.
> >
> > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq: US
expert
> >
> > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> >
> > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence on
North
> > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of
weapons
> > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US foreign
policy
> > expert said in an article.
> >
> > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented a
worst-
> > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted its
> > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq), seriously
> > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making
uranium-
> > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign Affairs
> > magazine.
> >
> > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for International
> Policy,
> > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of former
senior
> > US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
> >
> > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of staff
head
> > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on the
US
> > immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea

come

> > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> >
> > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
Pyongyang's
> > plutonium facilities, it said.
> >
> > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and

Japanese

> > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
Intelligence
> > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> >
> > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the
stalling
> of
> > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing an
atomic
> > bomb with its plutonium program.
> >
> > The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes," he
said
> > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> >
> > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese efforts at
> > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open the
> option
> > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison claimed.
> >
> > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's

alleged

> > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That deal
had
> > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange for
> energy
> > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
proliferation-
> > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> >
> > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been presented
> > publicly.
> >
> > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
> > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its Yongbyon
> > facility.
> >
> > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for

four

to
> > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> >
> > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program has
> > grown since the United States announced it was no longer bound
by
> > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
hypothetical
> > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program about
which
> > little is known," said Harrison.
> >
> > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely
based
> on
> > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
technology,
> > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum tubing

to

> > make centrifuges.
> >
> > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between US
> > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean Vice
> > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington maintains
Paek
> > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> >
> > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring to

the

> > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> >
> > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
> > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
> >
> > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire
uranium
> > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on the
more
> > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium reprocessing
> > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> >
> > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain data
> that
> > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush

administration

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:
> has
> > blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea is
known
> > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

Cmon Johnny boy don't go soft on me,

Not a chance. As I said another time, another war.

who would I debate in here?
Dick doesn't really debate politics and I sure wouldn't go toe to

toe

with him on math or computers, he'd ruin me. Rob has the same

views

as I do so I can't debate him.

I used to enjoy debating him but he is just too....abrasive.

I love to debate but I don't take this stuff personally. Political
views are something that come from our surroundings, family, and

life

experiences. They are not changed easily if ever but I don't think
you can intelligently debate your views without knowing what the
other side believes.

I take this for what it is. A faceless forum where you can debate
different views. Actually I've found that people are much more
willing to argue in this setting than they would face to face.

There

seems to be a security knowing they don't need an immediate

response

or the worry of being proven wrong. Look at how many times I've
proven you wrong and you keep coming back for more.. LOL....

I can't get rid of you no matter how badly I show you up.

I don't like to get into personal attacks doing this but with you

it

was fun. I couldn't wait to see what your comebacks would be.
Nazi cum stain was the best. I was laughing so hard at that one my
wife asked me what was going on. High fives for that one, I never
heard it before.

I used to do a little stand-up, strictly amateur night stuff. But
I've been told that I'm quite clever.

Don't think this changes anything. You're still wrong on

everything

you think and I'll be back to prove it.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Go google your looney left
web sites and I'll show you how they are wrong. You really should

owe

me a dinner after the time I've spent showing you the errors of

your

ways but I won't hols my breath. You lefties are cheapskates.
Knowledge isn't cheap John Boy

If we ever face to face, you can wash my car.

One other thing John boy. I mentioned Ann Coulter and you said she
was dumb. If I had an hour with her I guarantee you her political
position would not be on my mind. If they would with you I think

you

have more problems than I thought. Cmon Johnny Boy admit she's a
right wing babe.

She sure can run from a pie in the face. Too political, not feminine.
Since I've been alone, I find women with limited verbal skills to be
the most entertaining.

Come back when you are rested, I've got a shitload of republican
shenanigans for you to pick through.

>
> Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war, another
> election, we probably could have been friends.
>
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...>

wrote:

> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"

<three2theroyal@y...>

> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about a
> week
> > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> >
> > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your

awake, I

> > know if you been bad or good so be good....................
> >
> > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > >
> > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure

you

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

> will
> > > agree.
> > >

That's OK, Dick, but it doesn't have the satisfying ring of "dance,
monkey-boy, dance". Sounds kind of like a villian from a Frank
Herbert novel, like Raban the beast or Fayd. If he has that
obsession we could combine Rob and fat to get Rat. Rat-boy has a bit
of a ring. Let me know what you think.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:

John,

I came up with another name for the monkey boy. His enormous, over
inflated ego, which never allows him to admit he's wrong, tied

back

into his constant desire to call everyone fat. So, from now on he
shall be know as Robese (long o, long e) Singer.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

>
> You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping peoples
legs.
> If this had anything to do with you, your name would have been
> mentioned. Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is

like

> truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo, shooo,

get

···

> off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!
>

You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping peoples legs.

I have 3 dogs--2 of them Yorkies. And they don't annoy me. Bow wow.

> If this had anything to do with you, your name would have been

mentioned.

I put in my $45.00 worth because you're like a whipping post. It's
there, it looks stupid, and it begs to be whipped.

Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is like

truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo, shooo, get
off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!

It's good you say you have respect for someone after tossing
vulgarity his way, yup, makes a lot of sense. Your credibility factor
has got to be going thru the roof by now!

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war, another
> > election, we probably could have been friends.
> >
> You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who has
common
> sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily be
created
> out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into following
Kerry
> the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's), another
place
> (the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-tweaked

mind)

> and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you woke up

out

of
> that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might have a
chance
> > >
> > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<three2theroyal@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in about

a

> > week
> > > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> > >
> > > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your
awake, I
> > > know if you been bad or good so be good....................
> > >
> > > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > > >
> > > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm sure
you
> > will
> > > > agree.
> > > >
> > > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq:

US

> > expert
> > > >
> > > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > > >
> > > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated intelligence
on
> > North
> > > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use of
> > weapons
> > > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US

foreign

> > policy
> > > > expert said in an article.
> > > >
> > > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration presented
a
> > worst-
> > > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted

its

> > > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq),
seriously
> > > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making
> > uranium-
> > > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign
Affairs
> > > > magazine.
> > > >
> > > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for

International

> > > Policy,
> > > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of

former

> > senior
> > > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
> > > >
> > > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of
staff
> > head
> > > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling on
the
> > US
> > > > immediately to back down on its insistence that North Korea
> come
> > > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > > >
> > > > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
> > Pyongyang's
> > > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > > >
> > > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and
> Japanese
> > > > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
> > Intelligence
> > > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > > >
> > > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the
> > stalling
> > > of
> > > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing

an

> > atomic
> > > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > > >
> > > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political purposes,"
he
> > said
> > > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > > >
> > > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese

efforts

at
> > > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open
the
> > > option
> > > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison

claimed.

> > > >
> > > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's
> alleged
> > > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That
deal
> > had
> > > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange
for
> > > energy
> > > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> > proliferation-
> > > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > > >
> > > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been

presented

> > > > publicly.
> > > >
> > > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international nuclear
> > > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its
Yongbyon
> > > > facility.
> > > >
> > > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium for
> four
> > to
> > > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > > >
> > > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium program
has
> > > > grown since the United States announced it was no longer
bound
> > by
> > > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
> > hypothetical
> > > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program

about

> > which
> > > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > > >
> > > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was largely
> > based
> > > on
> > > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
> > technology,
> > > > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum
tubing
> to
> > > > make centrifuges.
> > > >
> > > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang between
US
> > > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean
Vice
> > > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington

maintains

> > Paek
> > > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> > > >
> > > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring

to

> the
> > > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> > > >
> > > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-
Proliferation
> > > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
> > > >
> > > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the entire
> > uranium
> > > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on
the
> > more
> > > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium

reprocessing

> > > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > > >
> > > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of uncertain
data
> > > that
> > > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
> administration
> > > has
> > > > blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea

is

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:
> at redemption. > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> > wrote:
> > known
> > > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

John,

I came up with another name for the monkey boy. His enormous, over
inflated ego, which never allows him to admit he's wrong, tied back
into his constant desire to call everyone fat. So, from now on he
shall be know as Robese (long o, long e) Singer.

Have I said this before? Just like with his video poker-playing
addict friends and wife, Dicky looks to others for comfort when being
humiliated on a regular basis by Rob Singer. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

>
> You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping peoples
legs.
> If this had anything to do with you, your name would have been
> mentioned. Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is

like

> truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo, shooo,

get

> off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!
>
> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war,

another

> > > election, we probably could have been friends.
> > >
> > You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who has
> common
> > sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily be
> created
> > out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into following
> Kerry
> > the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's), another
> place
> > (the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-tweaked
mind)
> > and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you woke up
out
> of
> > that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might have a
> chance
> > > >
> > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> <three2theroyal@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in

about

a
> > > week
> > > > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> > > >
> > > > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your
> awake, I
> > > > know if you been bad or good so be good....................
> > > >
> > > > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm

sure

> you
> > > will
> > > > > agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in Iraq:
US
> > > expert
> > > > >
> > > > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > > > >
> > > > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated

intelligence

> on
> > > North
> > > > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use

of

> > > weapons
> > > > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US
foreign
> > > policy
> > > > > expert said in an article.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration

presented

> a
> > > worst-
> > > > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted
its
> > > > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq),
> seriously
> > > > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly making
> > > uranium-
> > > > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign
> Affairs
> > > > > magazine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for
International
> > > > Policy,
> > > > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of
former
> > > senior
> > > > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of
> staff
> > > head
> > > > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling

on

> the
> > > US
> > > > > immediately to back down on its insistence that North

Korea

> > come
> > > > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
> > > Pyongyang's
> > > > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and
> > Japanese
> > > > > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
> > > Intelligence
> > > > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the
> > > stalling
> > > > of
> > > > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to producing
an
> > > atomic
> > > > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > > > >
> > > > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political

purposes,"

> he
> > > said
> > > > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese
efforts
> at
> > > > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep open
> the
> > > > option
> > > > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison
claimed.
> > > > >
> > > > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's
> > alleged
> > > > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework. That
> deal
> > > had
> > > > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in exchange
> for
> > > > energy
> > > > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> > > proliferation-
> > > > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > > > >
> > > > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been
presented
> > > > > publicly.
> > > > >
> > > > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international

nuclear

> > > > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its
> Yongbyon
> > > > > facility.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium

for

> > four
> > > to
> > > > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > > > >
> > > > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium

program

> has
> > > > > grown since the United States announced it was no longer
> bound
> > > by
> > > > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
> > > hypothetical
> > > > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program
about
> > > which
> > > > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was

largely

> > > based
> > > > on
> > > > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
> > > technology,
> > > > > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum
> tubing
> > to
> > > > > make centrifuges.
> > > > >
> > > > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang

between

> US
> > > > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean
> Vice
> > > > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington
maintains
> > > Paek
> > > > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > > > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly referring
to
> > the
> > > > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-
> Proliferation
> > > > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the

entire

> > > uranium
> > > > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus on
> the
> > > more
> > > > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium
reprocessing
> > > > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > > > >
> > > > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of

uncertain

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:
> > at redemption. > > > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> > > wrote:
> data
> > > > that
> > > > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
> > administration
> > > > has
> > > > > blocked action on the one present threat that North Korea
is
> > > known
> > > > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed plutonium."

Gee, rat-boy, what's worse; talking like Cheney or insulting dead
family members??? Tom has more class than you do, at least from
what I can tell. So, you got a couple of kick-dogs? If it doesn't
bother when they hump your leg then I'm not exactly sure what kind
of psychiatric help you need. Beastiality boy. Now that's funny!!

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

>
> You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping peoples

legs.

I have 3 dogs--2 of them Yorkies. And they don't annoy me. Bow wow.

> If this had anything to do with you, your name would have been
> mentioned.

I put in my $45.00 worth because you're like a whipping post. It's
there, it looks stupid, and it begs to be whipped.

Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is like
> truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo, shooo,

get

> off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!

It's good you say you have respect for someone after tossing
vulgarity his way, yup, makes a lot of sense. Your credibility

factor

has got to be going thru the roof by now!
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...>

wrote:

> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"

<three2theroyal@y...>

> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war,

another

> > > election, we probably could have been friends.
> > >
> > You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who has
> common
> > sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily be
> created
> > out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into following
> Kerry
> > the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's),

another

> place
> > (the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-tweaked
mind)
> > and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you woke up
out
> of
> > that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might have a
> chance
> > > >
> > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> <three2theroyal@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in

about

a
> > > week
> > > > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> > > >
> > > > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your
> awake, I
> > > > know if you been bad or good so be good....................
> > > >
> > > > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm

sure

> you
> > > will
> > > > > agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in

Iraq:

US
> > > expert
> > > > >
> > > > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > > > >
> > > > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated

intelligence

> on
> > > North
> > > > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use

of

> > > weapons
> > > > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US
foreign
> > > policy
> > > > > expert said in an article.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration

presented

> a
> > > worst-
> > > > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and distorted
its
> > > > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq),
> seriously
> > > > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly

making

> > > uranium-
> > > > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign
> Affairs
> > > > > magazine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for
International
> > > > Policy,
> > > > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of
former
> > > senior
> > > > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean specialists.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of
> staff
> > > head
> > > > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report calling

on

> the
> > > US
> > > > > immediately to back down on its insistence that North

Korea

> > come
> > > > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
> > > Pyongyang's
> > > > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and
> > Japanese
> > > > > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
> > > Intelligence
> > > > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for the
> > > stalling
> > > > of
> > > > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to

producing

an
> > > atomic
> > > > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > > > >
> > > > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political

purposes,"

> he
> > > said
> > > > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese
efforts
> at
> > > > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep

open

> the
> > > > option
> > > > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison
claimed.
> > > > >
> > > > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North Korea's
> > alleged
> > > > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework.

That

> deal
> > > had
> > > > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in

exchange

> for
> > > > energy
> > > > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> > > proliferation-
> > > > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > > > >
> > > > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been
presented
> > > > > publicly.
> > > > >
> > > > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international

nuclear

> > > > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its
> Yongbyon
> > > > > facility.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium

for

> > four
> > > to
> > > > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > > > >
> > > > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium

program

> has
> > > > > grown since the United States announced it was no longer
> bound
> > > by
> > > > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
> > > hypothetical
> > > > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program
about
> > > which
> > > > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was

largely

> > > based
> > > > on
> > > > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
> > > technology,
> > > > > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum
> tubing
> > to
> > > > > make centrifuges.
> > > > >
> > > > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang

between

> US
> > > > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North

Korean

> Vice
> > > > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington
maintains
> > > Paek
> > > > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > > > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly

referring

to
> > the
> > > > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-
> Proliferation
> > > > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late 2002.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the

entire

> > > uranium
> > > > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus

on

> the
> > > more
> > > > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium
reprocessing
> > > > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > > > >
> > > > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of

uncertain

> data
> > > > that
> > > > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
> > administration
> > > > has
> > > > > blocked action on the one present threat that North

Korea

is
> > > known
> > > > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed

plutonium."

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

> > at redemption. > > > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> > > wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

>
> John,
>
> I came up with another name for the monkey boy. His enormous,

over

> inflated ego, which never allows him to admit he's wrong, tied

back

> into his constant desire to call everyone fat. So, from now on

he

> shall be know as Robese (long o, long e) Singer.

Have I said this before? Just like with his video poker-playing
addict friends and wife, Dicky looks to others for comfort when

being

humiliated on a regular basis by Rob Singer. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>

Not humiliated, annoyed. Seems the only one posting on this site
that annoys everyone is you. Down, rat-boy, down.
Smack....wimper..wimper...piddle...piddle.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

Gee, rat-boy, what's worse; talking like Cheney or insulting dead
family members???

The insults at least, for the time being, stopped your bro from
rolling over in his grave every time you made traiterous, anti-US
remarks.

Tom has more class than you do, at least from

what I can tell. So, you got a couple of kick-dogs? If it doesn't
bother when they hump your leg then I'm not exactly sure what kind
of psychiatric help you need. Beastiality boy. Now that's funny!!

I don't need class, and I don't got no class nohow anyway. I'm the
best vp player ever, and everyone knows that. Everyone also knows
video poker players are almost all low class lowlifes, and most of
them are life's leftovers. It was easy coming into such an industry
and taking over, when preparation, a good plan, and proper bankroll
are all that's required to be successful at the beginning. The rest
is history.

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping peoples
legs.
>
> I have 3 dogs--2 of them Yorkies. And they don't annoy me. Bow

wow.

>
> > If this had anything to do with you, your name would have been
> > mentioned.
>
> I put in my $45.00 worth because you're like a whipping post.

It's

> there, it looks stupid, and it begs to be whipped.
>
> Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is like
> > truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo, shooo,
get
> > off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!
>
> It's good you say you have respect for someone after tossing
> vulgarity his way, yup, makes a lot of sense. Your credibility
factor
> has got to be going thru the roof by now!
> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<three2theroyal@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war,
another
> > > > election, we probably could have been friends.
> > > >
> > > You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who has
> > common
> > > sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily be
> > created
> > > out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into following
> > Kerry
> > > the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's),
another
> > place
> > > (the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-tweaked
> mind)
> > > and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you woke

up

> out
> > of
> > > that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might have a
> > chance
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> > <three2theroyal@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in
about
> a
> > > > week
> > > > > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when your
> > awake, I
> > > > > know if you been bad or good so be

good....................

> > > > >
> > > > > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing. I'm
sure
> > you
> > > > will
> > > > > > agree.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in
Iraq:
> US
> > > > expert
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated
intelligence
> > on
> > > > North
> > > > > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its use
of
> > > > weapons
> > > > > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US
> foreign
> > > > policy
> > > > > > expert said in an article.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration
presented
> > a
> > > > worst-
> > > > > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and

distorted

> its
> > > > > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in Iraq),
> > seriously
> > > > > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly
making
> > > > uranium-
> > > > > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in Foreign
> > Affairs
> > > > > > magazine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for
> International
> > > > > Policy,
> > > > > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping of
> former
> > > > senior
> > > > > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean

specialists.

> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs of
> > staff
> > > > head
> > > > > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report

calling

on
> > the
> > > > US
> > > > > > immediately to back down on its insistence that North
Korea
> > > come
> > > > > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling of
> > > > Pyongyang's
> > > > > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean and
> > > Japanese
> > > > > > intelligence sources who participated with the Central
> > > > Intelligence
> > > > > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for

the

> > > > stalling
> > > > > of
> > > > > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to
producing
> an
> > > > atomic
> > > > > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political
purposes,"
> > he
> > > > said
> > > > > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese
> efforts
> > at
> > > > > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep
open
> > the
> > > > > option
> > > > > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison
> claimed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North

Korea's

> > > alleged
> > > > > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework.
That
> > deal
> > > > had
> > > > > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in
exchange
> > for
> > > > > energy
> > > > > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> > > > proliferation-
> > > > > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been
> presented
> > > > > > publicly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international
nuclear
> > > > > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its
> > Yongbyon
> > > > > > facility.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough plutonium
for
> > > four
> > > > to
> > > > > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium
program
> > has
> > > > > > grown since the United States announced it was no

longer

> > bound
> > > > by
> > > > > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than the
> > > > hypothetical
> > > > > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment program
> about
> > > > which
> > > > > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was
largely
> > > > based
> > > > > on
> > > > > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy enrichment
> > > > technology,
> > > > > > including electrical-frequency converters and aluminum
> > tubing
> > > to
> > > > > > make centrifuges.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang
between
> > US
> > > > > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North
Korean
> > Vice
> > > > > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington
> maintains
> > > > Paek
> > > > > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment program.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North Korea
> > > > > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly
referring
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear energy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-
> > Proliferation
> > > > > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late

2002.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:
> > > at redemption. > > > > > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the
entire
> > > > uranium
> > > > > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can focus
on
> > the
> > > > more
> > > > > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium
> reprocessing
> > > > > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of
uncertain
> > data
> > > > > that
> > > > > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
> > > administration
> > > > > has
> > > > > > blocked action on the one present threat that North
Korea
> is
> > > > known
> > > > > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed
plutonium."

A veritable legend in your own mind. Do you make more than Paymar,
Dancer, Wong or Scott?? I don't think so. You alienate people just
by breathing. From what I've heard, your "system" has no mathmatical
basis. No mathie, no workie. Sorry rat-boy. Everything in the
universe runs by the numbers. If your wife is an engineer, she can
tell you.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

>
> Gee, rat-boy, what's worse; talking like Cheney or insulting

dead

> family members???

The insults at least, for the time being, stopped your bro from
rolling over in his grave every time you made traiterous, anti-US
remarks.

Tom has more class than you do, at least from
> what I can tell. So, you got a couple of kick-dogs? If it

doesn't

> bother when they hump your leg then I'm not exactly sure what

kind

> of psychiatric help you need. Beastiality boy. Now that's funny!!

I don't need class, and I don't got no class nohow anyway. I'm the
best vp player ever, and everyone knows that. Everyone also knows
video poker players are almost all low class lowlifes, and most of
them are life's leftovers. It was easy coming into such an

industry

and taking over, when preparation, a good plan, and proper

bankroll

are all that's required to be successful at the beginning. The

rest

is history.
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...>

wrote:

> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"

<three2theroyal@y...>

> wrote:
> > >
> > > You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping

peoples

> legs.
> >
> > I have 3 dogs--2 of them Yorkies. And they don't annoy me. Bow
wow.
> >
> > > If this had anything to do with you, your name would have

been

> > > mentioned.
> >
> > I put in my $45.00 worth because you're like a whipping post.
It's
> > there, it looks stupid, and it begs to be whipped.
> >
> > Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is like
> > > truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo,

shooo,

> get
> > > off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!
> >
> > It's good you say you have respect for someone after tossing
> > vulgarity his way, yup, makes a lot of sense. Your credibility
> factor
> > has got to be going thru the roof by now!
> > >
> > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> <three2theroyal@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war,
> another
> > > > > election, we probably could have been friends.
> > > > >
> > > > You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who

has

> > > common
> > > > sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily

be

> > > created
> > > > out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into

following

> > > Kerry
> > > > the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's),
> another
> > > place
> > > > (the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-

tweaked

> > mind)
> > > > and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you

woke

up
> > out
> > > of
> > > > that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might

have a

> > > chance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> > > <three2theroyal@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you in
> about
> > a
> > > > > week
> > > > > > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when

your

> > > awake, I
> > > > > > know if you been bad or good so be
good....................
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing.

I'm

> sure
> > > you
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > agree.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in
> Iraq:
> > US
> > > > > expert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated
> intelligence
> > > on
> > > > > North
> > > > > > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its

use

> of
> > > > > weapons
> > > > > > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a US
> > foreign
> > > > > policy
> > > > > > > expert said in an article.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration
> presented
> > > a
> > > > > worst-
> > > > > > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and
distorted
> > its
> > > > > > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in

Iraq),

> > > seriously
> > > > > > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly
> making
> > > > > uranium-
> > > > > > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in

Foreign

> > > Affairs
> > > > > > > magazine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for
> > International
> > > > > > Policy,
> > > > > > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping

of

> > former
> > > > > senior
> > > > > > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean
specialists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint chiefs

of

> > > staff
> > > > > head
> > > > > > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report
calling
> on
> > > the
> > > > > US
> > > > > > > immediately to back down on its insistence that

North

> Korea
> > > > come
> > > > > > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Instead, they should first negotiate the dismantling

of

> > > > > Pyongyang's
> > > > > > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean

and

> > > > Japanese
> > > > > > > intelligence sources who participated with the

Central

> > > > > Intelligence
> > > > > > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program for
the
> > > > > stalling
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to
> producing
> > an
> > > > > atomic
> > > > > > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political
> purposes,"
> > > he
> > > > > said
> > > > > > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and Japanese
> > efforts
> > > at
> > > > > > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to keep
> open
> > > the
> > > > > > option
> > > > > > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison
> > claimed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North
Korea's
> > > > alleged
> > > > > > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed Framework.
> That
> > > deal
> > > > > had
> > > > > > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in
> exchange
> > > for
> > > > > > energy
> > > > > > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> > > > > proliferation-
> > > > > > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been
> > presented
> > > > > > > publicly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international
> nuclear
> > > > > > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at its
> > > Yongbyon
> > > > > > > facility.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough

plutonium

> for
> > > > four
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium
> program
> > > has
> > > > > > > grown since the United States announced it was no
longer
> > > bound
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than

the

> > > > > hypothetical
> > > > > > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment

program

> > about
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was
> largely
> > > > > based
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy

enrichment

> > > > > technology,
> > > > > > > including electrical-frequency converters and

aluminum

> > > tubing
> > > > to
> > > > > > > make centrifuges.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang
> between
> > > US
> > > > > > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North
> Korean
> > > Vice
> > > > > > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington
> > maintains
> > > > > Paek
> > > > > > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment

program.

> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North

Korea

> > > > > > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly
> referring
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear

energy.

> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-
> > > Proliferation
> > > > > > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late
2002.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the
> entire
> > > > > uranium
> > > > > > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can

focus

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

> > > > at redemption. > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> > > > > wrote:
> on
> > > the
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium
> > reprocessing
> > > > > > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of
> uncertain
> > > data
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
> > > > administration
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > blocked action on the one present threat that North
> Korea
> > is
> > > > > known
> > > > > > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed
> plutonium."

A veritable legend in your own mind. Do you make more than Paymar,
Dancer, Wong or Scott?? I don't think so. You alienate people just
by breathing. From what I've heard, your "system" has no

mathmatical basis. No mathie, no workie. Sorry rat-boy. Everything in
the universe runs by the numbers. If your wife is an engineer, she
can tell you.

You actually BELIEVE Paymar, The Queen, WONG? and Dancer WIN???
Here's a clue--Dan P. was a quarter player until he went broke and
had to move away from LV; Jean Queen is as phony as a 3-dollar bill,
and if you never caught on you fell right into her marketing trap;
Stanford Wong--Get real! A has-been if there ever was one; and Bob
D....who's still living in his 6-month world and apparently has most
of you residing in his basement. And what do these heroes of yours
all have in common? RIGHT. They make their livings by SELLING a bunch
of video poker paraphernalia and 3 play video poker with those
profits!! In short, they do what you do. They slave away at work, get
paid, then pass most of that money onto casino machines during sucker
rope 'em in advantage player promotions.

From what you heard about my winning Play Strategies right here, I'm
211-31 with a >$600k net profit since '97. I know I know. Your brute
buddy Dicky has a claim in saying he's won $7k in 2 months with 11
RF's (yet he also claims he hardly plays). I don't think I hit 5 RF's
all year, yet my 'non-mathematical system' as you call it produced a
profit of $105k in '04. The stuff of legends? If you say so!

>
> — In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y…>
wrote:
> >
> > Gee, rat-boy, what's worse; talking like Cheney or insulting
dead
> > family members???
>
> The insults at least, for the time being, stopped your bro from
> rolling over in his grave every time you made traiterous, anti-US
> remarks.
>
> Tom has more class than you do, at least from
> > what I can tell. So, you got a couple of kick-dogs? If it
doesn't
> > bother when they hump your leg then I'm not exactly sure what
kind
> > of psychiatric help you need. Beastiality boy. Now that's

funny!!

>
> I don't need class, and I don't got no class nohow anyway. I'm

the

> best vp player ever, and everyone knows that. Everyone also knows
> video poker players are almost all low class lowlifes, and most

of

> them are life's leftovers. It was easy coming into such an
industry
> and taking over, when preparation, a good plan, and proper
bankroll
> are all that's required to be successful at the beginning. The
rest
> is history.
> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<three2theroyal@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are like an annoying little dog that keeps humping
peoples
> > legs.
> > >
> > > I have 3 dogs--2 of them Yorkies. And they don't annoy me.

Bow

> wow.
> > >
> > > > If this had anything to do with you, your name would have
been
> > > > mentioned.
> > >
> > > I put in my $45.00 worth because you're like a whipping post.
> It's
> > > there, it looks stupid, and it begs to be whipped.
> > >
> > > Tom has shown himself worthy of respect. Respect is like
> > > > truth, something you will never understand. Now, shooo,
shooo,
> > get
> > > > off my leg before I smack you with the newspaper!
> > >
> > > It's good you say you have respect for someone after tossing
> > > vulgarity his way, yup, makes a lot of sense. Your

credibility

> > factor
> > > has got to be going thru the roof by now!
> > > >
> > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> > <three2theroyal@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ya know, Tom. Another time, another place, another war,
> > another
> > > > > > election, we probably could have been friends.
> > > > > >
> > > > > You're too bitter a person to be friends with anyone who
has
> > > > common
> > > > > sense on their side. Such a sour grapes loser can easily
be
> > > > created
> > > > > out of the weak and feeble who were lamblasted into
following
> > > > Kerry
> > > > > the coward. But you are right....Another time (1800's),
> > another
> > > > place
> > > > > (the moon) another war (make-believe in your liberal-
tweaked
> > > mind)
> > > > > and another election (When Bush whacked Gore)---if you
woke
> up
> > > out
> > > > of
> > > > > that fantasy-laced misery you're trapped in, you might
have a
> > > > chance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> > > > <three2theroyal@y...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Too late to answer this tonight Johnny boy. See you

in

> > about
> > > a
> > > > > > week
> > > > > > > unless I get bored. I'll answer it when I get back
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Remember. I see you when your sleeping. I know when
your
> > > > awake, I
> > > > > > > know if you been bad or good so be
> good....................
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Think up some more and we'll go at it again next time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here's republican validation for w's next outing.
I'm
> > sure
> > > > you
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > agree.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bush manipulated NKorea intelligence like he did in
> > Iraq:
> > > US
> > > > > > expert
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thu Dec 9, 8:38 PM ET World - AFP
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BEIJING (AFP) - The United States manipulated
> > intelligence
> > > > on
> > > > > > North
> > > > > > > > Korea's nuclear program in a similar fashion to its
use
> > of
> > > > > > weapons
> > > > > > > > of mass destruction to justify the war on Iraq, a

US

> > > foreign
> > > > > > policy
> > > > > > > > expert said in an article.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Relying on sketchy data, the Bush administration
> > presented
> > > > a
> > > > > > worst-
> > > > > > > > case scenario as an incontrovertible truth and
> distorted
> > > its
> > > > > > > > intelligence on North Korea (much as it did in
Iraq),
> > > > seriously
> > > > > > > > exaggerating the danger that Pyongyang is secretly
> > making
> > > > > > uranium-
> > > > > > > > based nuclear weapons," Selig Harrison said in
Foreign
> > > > Affairs
> > > > > > > > magazine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Harrison, from the Washington-based Center for
> > > International
> > > > > > > Policy,
> > > > > > > > chairs the Task Force on Korean Policy, a grouping
of
> > > former
> > > > > > senior
> > > > > > > > US military officials, diplomats and Korean
> specialists.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Task Force, which includes a former joint

chiefs

of
> > > > staff
> > > > > > head
> > > > > > > > and ex-US ambassadors, on Friday issued a report
> calling
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > US
> > > > > > > > immediately to back down on its insistence that
North
> > Korea
> > > > > come
> > > > > > > > clean on its alleged uranium program.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Instead, they should first negotiate the

dismantling

of
> > > > > > Pyongyang's
> > > > > > > > plutonium facilities, it said.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Harrison said his claims were based on South Korean
and
> > > > > Japanese
> > > > > > > > intelligence sources who participated with the
Central
> > > > > > Intelligence
> > > > > > > > Agency (news - web sites) on the issue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He blames the US insistence on a uranium program

for

> the
> > > > > > stalling
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > six-party talks while Pyongyang moves closer to
> > producing
> > > an
> > > > > > atomic
> > > > > > > > bomb with its plutonium program.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The intelligence was manipulated for "political
> > purposes,"
> > > > he
> > > > > > said
> > > > > > > > in the magazine's December 17 issue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This was largely to waylay South Korean and

Japanese

> > > efforts
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > reconciliation with the North and ostensibly to

keep

> > open
> > > > the
> > > > > > > option
> > > > > > > > of "regime change" as in the case of Iraq, Harrison
> > > claimed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In late 2002 the Bush administration cited North
> Korea's
> > > > > alleged
> > > > > > > > uranium program to pull out of the Agreed

Framework.

> > That
> > > > deal
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > frozen Pyongyang's nuclear program since 1994 in
> > exchange
> > > > for
> > > > > > > energy
> > > > > > > > aid and the construction of two billion dollar semi-
> > > > > > proliferation-
> > > > > > > > proof light water nuclear reactors.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No concrete evidence of a uranium program has been
> > > presented
> > > > > > > > publicly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In retaliation, Pyongyang kicked out international
> > nuclear
> > > > > > > > inspectors and resumed plutonium reprocessing at

its

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:
> > > > > at redemption. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" > <tghysel@y...> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > Yongbyon
> > > > > > > > facility.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is now believed to have reprocessed enough
plutonium
> > for
> > > > > four
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > six nuclear bombs, experts say.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The danger posed by North Korea's extant plutonium
> > program
> > > > has
> > > > > > > > grown since the United States announced it was no
> longer
> > > > bound
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > the Agreed Framework, and it is much greater than
the
> > > > > > hypothetical
> > > > > > > > threat posed by a suspected uranium enrichment
program
> > > about
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > little is known," said Harrison.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Harrison said the claim of a uranium capability was
> > largely
> > > > > > based
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > several failed attempts by Pyongyang to buy
enrichment
> > > > > > technology,
> > > > > > > > including electrical-frequency converters and
aluminum
> > > > tubing
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make centrifuges.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The US also cites a 2002 conversation in Pyongyang
> > between
> > > > US
> > > > > > > > Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North
> > Korean
> > > > Vice
> > > > > > > > Foreign Minister Paek Nam Sun, in which Washington
> > > maintains
> > > > > > Paek
> > > > > > > > admitted his country had a uranium enrichment
program.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pyongyang, however, insists Paek only said North
Korea
> > > > > > > > was "entitled" to have such a program, possibly
> > referring
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > processing of low-enriched uranium for nuclear
energy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is allowed by the rules of the Nuclear Non-
> > > > Proliferation
> > > > > > > > Treaty, which Pyongyang also pulled out of in late
> 2002.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Unless conclusive new evidence comes to light, the
> > entire
> > > > > > uranium
> > > > > > > > issue should be deferred so that the parties can
focus
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > immediate threat: North Korea's known plutonium
> > > reprocessing
> > > > > > > > capiabilties," said Harrison.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "By scuttling the 1994 agreement on the basis of
> > uncertain
> > > > data
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > it presented with absolute certitude ... the Bush
> > > > > administration
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > blocked action on the one present threat that North
> > Korea
> > > is
> > > > > > known
> > > > > > > > to pose: the threat represented by reprocessed
> > plutonium."

That's OK, Dick, but it doesn't have the satisfying ring of "dance,
monkey-boy, dance". Sounds kind of like a villian from a Frank
Herbert novel, like Raban the beast or Fayd. If he has that
obsession we could combine Rob and fat to get Rat. Rat-boy has a

bit

of a ring. Let me know what you think.

I think we are having too much fun. He's so defenseless on any
intellectual level. Maybe we should cut him some slack ... Nah, just
kidding. Rat-boy is good.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

>
> A veritable legend in your own mind. Do you make more than

Paymar,

> Dancer, Wong or Scott?? I don't think so. You alienate people

just

> by breathing. From what I've heard, your "system" has no
mathmatical basis. No mathie, no workie. Sorry rat-boy. Everything

in

the universe runs by the numbers. If your wife is an engineer, she
can tell you.

You actually BELIEVE Paymar, The Queen, WONG? and Dancer WIN???
Here's a clue--Dan P. was a quarter player until he went broke and
had to move away from LV; Jean Queen is as phony as a 3-dollar

bill,

and if you never caught on you fell right into her marketing trap;
Stanford Wong--Get real! A has-been if there ever was one; and Bob
D....who's still living in his 6-month world and apparently has

most

of you residing in his basement. And what do these heroes of yours
all have in common? RIGHT. They make their livings by SELLING a

bunch

of video poker paraphernalia and 3 play video poker with those
profits!! In short, they do what you do. They slave away at work,

get

paid, then pass most of that money onto casino machines during

sucker

rope 'em in advantage player promotions.

From what you heard about my winning Play Strategies right here,

I'm

211-31 with a >$600k net profit since '97. I know I know. Your

brute

buddy Dicky has a claim in saying he's won $7k in 2 months with 11
RF's (yet he also claims he hardly plays). I don't think I hit 5

RF's

all year, yet my 'non-mathematical system' as you call it produced

a

profit of $105k in '04. The stuff of legends? If you say so!
>

You sell how-to books, right. So what you do is different how?
Because you say something is true doesn't make it trus as I have
learned over this past month or so. Your credibility is around zero.
If you were losing your ass, I somehow your arrogance would let you
admit it. Dick has been trying to close a deal on a bet that you
seem very hesitant to do. Why? Could it be that your progressive
system is progressivly putting you in the poor house? As I said,
your cred is at zero.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

> > A veritable legend in your own mind. Do you make more than
Paymar,
> > Dancer, Wong or Scott?? I don't think so.

> You actually BELIEVE Paymar, The Queen, WONG? and Dancer WIN???
> Here's a clue--Dan P. was a quarter player until he went broke

and had to move away from LV; Jean Queen is as phony as a 3-dollar

bill, and if you never caught on you fell right into her marketing

trap; Stanford Wong--Get real! A has-been if there ever was one; and
Bob D....who's still living in his 6-month world and apparently has

most of you residing in his basement. And what do these heroes of

yours all have in common? RIGHT. They make their livings by SELLING a

bunch of video poker paraphernalia and 3 play video poker with

those profits!! In short, they do what you do. They slave away at
work, get paid, then pass most of that money onto casino machines
during sucker rope 'em in advantage player promotions.

>
> From what you heard about my winning Play Strategies right here,
I'm 211-31 with a >$600k net profit since '97. I know I know. Your
brute buddy Dicky has a claim in saying he's won $7k in 2 months

with 11 RF's (yet he also claims he hardly plays). I don't think I
hit 5 RF's all year, yet my 'non-mathematical system' as you call it
produced a profit of $105k in '04. The stuff of legends? If you say
so!

> >

You sell how-to books, right. So what you do is different how?

Wrong. My first book is an expose' on long-term strategy and why not
to follow it ever. My second is a month-long trip i took around the
entire state of Nevada, talking about video poker experiences and all
other experiences. The difference is I make a living from the game, I
don't sell vp junk and then go around saying I win win win, get comps
and free stuff at every casino, and all the casino hosts just love me
to death and want me to keep on coming back. If you can't see these
people are full of crap then I'm the one to ask.

> Because you say something is true doesn't make it trus as I have

learned over this past month or so. Your credibility is around zero.

That's the way the world works. And that's another reason why you
should thank your lucky stars you live here and not criticize our
system with no viable alternative.

If you were losing your ass, I somehow your arrogance would let you
admit it.

The fact is I wrote publicly in the paper that I lost $250k from 1990-
1996, and I've always explained how and why. But now that I win
because of several winning strategies I've developed that Dick or
Dean Zamzow or Bob Dancer or Dan Paymar don't fully understand and
can't reproduce on paper--and ALWAYS because of the flaw that states
a negative game will only yield negative results and a positive game
will only yield positive results--these few folks say I'm a liar and
a fraud....when in fact that's not true, they know my publishers know
it or they wouldn't have been in the business for so many years
around so many successful and failed gamblers, and i wouldn't have so
many people asking for help all the time becausse they lose so often
playing expert-play only. I do have arrogance, but it has been earned.

Dick has been trying to close a deal on a bet that you

seem very hesitant to do. Why?

I'm ready on every part of every bet. the Bet is to show the cash and
not the paper--something he does in the same format with my video
poker strategies. He can't accept anything--CASH or even historical
data--unless he can for some odd reason prove it on paper. That's
anal, it neurotic, and it makes no sense.

Could it be that your progressive

system is progressivly putting you in the poor house? As I said,
your cred is at zero.

People believe what they choose. I think you know better but have so
many sour grapes built up inside you that you don't WANT to believe
anything about me.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

People believe what they choose. I think you know better but have

so

many sour grapes built up inside you that you don't WANT to

believe

anything about me.

I only need to believe what you have shown. To believe that you are
an honorable man when all you have done here is act the fool is very
hard to do, if not impossible. You are a tired, sad old man with no
friends. I'm sure the neighborhood kids call you "mean old man
singer" or whatever your name is. You get up in the morning and
things just naturally go down hill from there. Rat-boy, you are just
a sorry old man.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote: