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I GOT THE ROYAL TREATMENT AT MGM...TWICE!

#1

My next goal is to get dealt a royal playing Pick'Em. I know it's going
to be a tough task, but I'm not giving up.

You don't *want* to get dealt a royal playing Pick'Em, do you? You only
get to pick one of the two piles? I distinctly recall the experience of
being "dealt" Pick'Em quads and having to throw one away.

Isn't any Royal on Pick 'Em, in effect, a "dealt Royal"...the two "fixed"
cards are "two to a Royal", the card on the top on one of the piles is
"three to a Royal" and the other two you need (that you can't change either)
have to be the ones dealt "below" it.

I guess the biggest difference is you can screw up a Royal like this on
Pick 'Em by picking the wrong pile.

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#2

My first and only Royal in my life so far was on Pick'Em!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, RWHANNU@... wrote:

>>
>> My next goal is to get dealt a royal playing Pick'Em. I know it's going
>> to be a tough task, but I'm not giving up.
>
>You don't *want* to get dealt a royal playing Pick'Em, do you? You only
>get to pick one of the two piles? I distinctly recall the experience of
>being "dealt" Pick'Em quads and having to throw one away.

Isn't any Royal on Pick 'Em, in effect, a "dealt Royal"...the two "fixed"
cards are "two to a Royal", the card on the top on one of the piles is
"three to a Royal" and the other two you need (that you can't change either)
have to be the ones dealt "below" it.

I guess the biggest difference is you can screw up a Royal like this on
Pick 'Em by picking the wrong pile.

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#3

I would say no, it's MUCH more like drawing 3 to a royal. You are picking the third card, in effect holding the first two which are given, and the third which you hold. The 4th and 5th are now drawn, just like in draw poker, and with same odds from that point. Whether the final two cards are "below" your card (as in pickem) or drawn when you hit the deal button, the odds of hitting the royal are still the same.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, RWHANNU@... wrote:

>>
>> My next goal is to get dealt a royal playing Pick'Em. I know it's going
>> to be a tough task, but I'm not giving up.
>
>You don't *want* to get dealt a royal playing Pick'Em, do you? You only
>get to pick one of the two piles? I distinctly recall the experience of
>being "dealt" Pick'Em quads and having to throw one away.

Isn't any Royal on Pick 'Em, in effect, a "dealt Royal"...the two "fixed"
cards are "two to a Royal", the card on the top on one of the piles is
"three to a Royal" and the other two you need (that you can't change either)
have to be the ones dealt "below" it.

I guess the biggest difference is you can screw up a Royal like this on
Pick 'Em by picking the wrong pile.

#4

When dealt "3-to-a-royal" in pick 'em, I'm not sure that the odds of hitting
a royal are the same as with regular video poker.

In regular video poker, you get to see five of the 52 cards before
discarding two of them. So, the two new cards are drawn from the remaining
47 cards.

In pick 'em, you only see four of the 52 cards before choosing your
final cards. So, the two new cards are coming from the remaining 48 cards.

In one case, you need two cards out of 47. And, in the other case, you need
two cards out of 48. But, I really don't know if it changes the odds any.

Curtis

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On 10/28/09, caribou321 <caribou321@yahoo.com> wrote:

I would say no, it's MUCH more like drawing 3 to a royal. You are picking
the third card, in effect holding the first two which are given, and the
third which you hold. The 4th and 5th are now drawn, just like in draw
poker, and with same odds from that point. Whether the final two cards are
"below" your card (as in pickem) or drawn when you hit the deal button, the
odds of hitting the royal are still the same.

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#5

In one case, you need two cards out of 47. And, in the other case, you
need
two cards out of 48. But, I really don't know if it changes the odds
any.

Math is hard.

Cogno

#6

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Terrence "VP Pappy" Murphy wrote:

"Two royals in one day is very/lucky good, but the way I got them is the story. My next goal is to get dealt a royal

playing Pick'Em. I know it's going to be a tough task, but I'm not
giving up."

This was a joke, Pappy knows a PE royals he just got one.

Isn't any Royal on Pick 'Em, in effect, a "dealt Royal"...the two "fixed"
cards are "two to a Royal", the card on the top on one of the piles is
"three to a Royal" and the other two you need (that you can't change either)
have to be the ones dealt "below" it.

I guess the biggest difference is you can screw up a Royal like this on
Pick 'Em by picking the wrong pile.

The odds of getting a royal at PE would be 1 out of 324,870 or half that of a dealt royal, except with 3 to a royal and a pay pair, you choose the pair, if the 3 to a royal has an A (because no SF chances). Do you want to count this as "screwing up". Thus the chance of a royal reduced to 1 out of 351,182.

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In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@...> wrote:

When dealt "3-to-a-royal" in pick 'em, I'm not sure that the odds of hitting
a royal are the same as with regular video poker.

In regular video poker, you get to see five of the 52 cards before
discarding two of them. So, the two new cards are drawn from the remaining
47 cards.

In pick 'em, you only see four of the 52 cards before choosing your
final cards. So, the two new cards are coming from the remaining 48 cards.

In one case, you need two cards out of 47. And, in the other case, you need
two cards out of 48. But, I really don't know if it changes the odds any.

PE 2/48x47 is one out of 1,128; 5 draw game 2/47x46 is 1 out of 1,081.

David

#7

No it's not!!!

All you have to remember is that there are 3 types of people

Those who can count

&

Those who cannot

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--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] I GOT THE ROYAL TREATMENT AT MGM...TWICE!
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 10:02 AM
> In one case, you need two cards
out of 47. And, in the other case, you
> need
> two cards out of 48. But, I really don't know if
it changes the odds
> any.

Math is hard.

Cogno

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