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I got scammed on Ultimate X

#1

Thanks for the reply. I feel it's unlikely that security would ban a player for this In their eyes someone simply said eh play over here. I do understand why the duped player would be upset. But he should e upset with himself as much as anything else

On another note I did hit three royals on a five play dollar machine once which was not the
Highest payout in my life but a fun day and attracted a small crowd. At mohegan sun about 6 years ago

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#2

Some "hustlers" call these con-artists "creators". I reported a pair at the Flamingo to security in late 2009 before I realized that people did this for a living. It was the third time I had seen this scam.

When I was last in Vegas in 2010, there ~10 main "creators" who worked the Ultimate X circuit. If you fill up a 25c/50c/$1 machine with high multipliers on every screen (say 4X average), that's 72 hands/denomination ($270 for 25c, $540 for 50c, $1,080 for $1...$1,890 for 1 machine). Very +ev con. Even if you can fill the machine with 2X avg, it's $630/full-machine.

I heard from friends in 2011 & 2012, that the heat on "wonging" Ultimate X had become very bad because the "creator" situation had gotten much worse due to the availability of good advantage Slots severely dropping over the past decade.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Rich Montgomery <richmontgomery138@...> wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I feel it&#x27;s unlikely that security would ban a player for this In their eyes someone simply said eh play over here. I do understand why the duped player would be upset. But he should e upset with himself as much as anything else

#3

The new Ultimate X hustlers may be a more sophisticated breed than the creators I was familiar with. The Ultimate X scam is just a variation of scams that have been run on unsuspecting tourist/ploppies ever since advantage slots first appeared. The perpetrators were generally low-life crackheads with a slash and burn mentality. Their desire to get high was so strong they didn't care about the future. Anything went. So their shelf life in any one casino was very short.

In Nevada Nick the Sick was the most legendary creator. But the last I heard, about 8 years ago, a judge had barred Nick from every casino in Nevada. Which tells me that he probably went to New Jersey or Mississippi after that.