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I attended a Bob Dancer/ Fleas

#1

I couldn't agree more. Today's fleas are yesterday's shills. With FPVP,
management no longer has to hire people at $7/hour to take up seats so that
ploppies sit and lose their money. FPVP does the same trick without payroll
headaches.

In a message dated 11/4/2005 6:59:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
irdd@netzero.net writes:

being called a flea isn't so bad as long as he is encouraging full
pay video poker remain in the casinos he is advising...management
types are usually an arrogant bunch and he was probably just trying
to talk their language...

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#2

I can't tell you how many times my husband and I have sat down at an empty bank of machines to play FPVP at the quarter level, and just the fact that the machines were being played attracted others -- most of whom sat down to then play either video keno or three coin triple double bonus!

The casinos need the fleas a lot more than the fleas need $7/hour.

ezfromnwon@aol.com wrote:

I couldn't agree more. Today's fleas are yesterday's shills. With FPVP, management no longer has to hire people at $7/hour to take up seats so that ploppies sit and lose their money. FPVP does the same trick without payroll
headaches.

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#3

Just curious....

Is it ethical for arms dealers to sell weapons to both sides of armed conflicts?

I guess you could argue that both individual countries win because they both get something they want. Of course I imagine that this assuems that both countires are realtively equal in size etc. Of course I would guess the arms dealer is the real winner since he is able to profit from sales etc from either side.

Knowledge is power.

I would guess that individual VP players are benefitting from knowledge shared with them by an experienced player/opportunist.

I would also guess that casinos also benefit from knowledge shared with them from someone who had or was using that knowledge. From what I understand many previous "cheaters" now provide consulting services to the casino they once used to cheat.

Are players better off with the new knowledge they gain? yes

Are casinos better off with the knowledge they gain? yes

However, are players better off with the knowledge that casinos now possess?
Is the relative worth of the knowledge sufficiently equal on both sides?
Is the ability to utilize the knowledge the same?

Do casinos really want anyone to really have a chance to "beat them" in the long term?

#4

The US allows arms sales to Syria and Israel, Pakistan
and India, Iran one decade, Iraq the next, and of
course our arms deals with the Chilean Navy, (always
wondered who the Chileans were afraid of? maybe
Argentina, whose US naval vessels did battle with the
Brits over the Falklands, etc)

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--- ednar <ednar@kconline.com> wrote:

Just curious....

Is it ethical for arms dealers to sell weapons to
both sides of armed
conflicts?

I guess you could argue that both individual
countries win because they both
get something they want. Of course I imagine that
this assuems that both
countires are realtively equal in size etc. Of
course I would guess the arms
dealer is the real winner since he is able to profit
from sales etc from
either side.

Knowledge is power.

I would guess that individual VP players are
benefitting from knowledge
shared with them by an experienced
player/opportunist.

I would also guess that casinos also benefit from
knowledge shared with them
from someone who had or was using that knowledge.
From what I understand
many previous "cheaters" now provide consulting
services to the casino they
once used to cheat.

Are players better off with the new knowledge they
gain? yes

Are casinos better off with the knowledge they gain?
yes

However, are players better off with the knowledge
that casinos now possess?
Is the relative worth of the knowledge sufficiently
equal on both sides?
Is the ability to utilize the knowledge the same?

Do casinos really want anyone to really have a
chance to "beat them" in the
long term?

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#5

THIS IS XVP - lets keep to gaming please!

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Marsh" <butnpushr@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Fleas and Arms dealers.. Some thoughts

The US allows arms sales to Syria and Israel, Pakistan
and India, Iran one decade, Iraq the next, and of
course our arms deals with the Chilean Navy, (always
wondered who the Chileans were afraid of? maybe
Argentina, whose US naval vessels did battle with the
Brits over the Falklands, etc)

#6

Hey tom

Here's how far of Jeep is. I thought the first post was refering to
Dancer selling to both sides of fence. And, that's vp. I feel bad for
myself.

Cheers..Jeep
.

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.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@n...> wrote:

THIS IS XVP - lets keep to gaming please!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Marsh" <butnpushr@y...>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Fleas and Arms dealers.. Some thoughts

> The US allows arms sales to Syria and Israel, Pakistan
> and India, Iran one decade, Iraq the next, and of
> course our arms deals with the Chilean Navy, (always
> wondered who the Chileans were afraid of? maybe
> Argentina, whose US naval vessels did battle with the
> Brits over the Falklands, etc)
>
>