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Huck Seed's $600K royal

#1

I dind't know bankroll was important when you're making a minimum hourly wage of $1500/hour. The guy who won it dind't have $5million to throw at it either.

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From: "Sai Sai" <gofastnismo@yahoo.com>
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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Huck Seed&apos;s $600K royal
Date: Sun, Aug 7, 2011 5:59 pm
Actually its much simpler than that. Anyone that has a bankroll that large wouldn't be wasting their time on this small forum. Even the best Vp players dont have 5 million dollar bankrolls they can piss away. Bob Dancer admitted not having the bankroll for his wife's $100 Vp hit. They took a potshot at it.

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> So if the play was worth about $3/hand, then why were't people talking about

Because if someone knew about it and had the bankroll to play it, they would have been busy trying to hit it. And I don't know anyone with the knowledge and bankroll to try it that would decide to tell everyone in a public forum to get the word out so that they have more competiton.

>If the bankroll issue comes up, we've already seen where the bankroll even for quarter players at the M was way too high for most but they still played them.

While a lot of people play above their bankroll, a lot don't realize that they are. Most people are readily aware that they don't have the bankroll for a $100 machine, but think they have the bankroll for a quarter machine even if they don't.

>I'm not sure why the high-rollers here just let some high-stakes poker player scoop up this .65%+++ jackpot right before their eyes.

I'm guessing they didn't all have a meeting and decide to "just let some high-stakes poker player scoop" it up. Odds are better that most weren't aware of it. Aria had backed off quite a few high-rollers and took away the player's club account of some others after a promo that gave .77% back in freeplay (and about another .073% in holiday gift point freeplay) with the added equity of a pretty substantial drawing city-wide. Not bad considering you could play 9/6 jacks for up to $1250 a hand if you wanted.

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#2

I haven't read any of the links, so maybe this is already answered elsewhere, but do we know that a bunch of the high stakes poker guys didn't maybe pool money together to take a shot at it?

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#3

If that is true, then possibly the reason you are incredulous of those who claim to make a living grinding out advantage video poker is your lack of understanding of the fundamental concepts necessary to accomplish that.

I would think a large percentage of people who have never even played video poker would have an intuitive grasp that bet size would affect bankroll requirements (even if they have no familiarity of concepts such as variance and advantage).

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:

I dind't know bankroll was important when you're making a minimum hourly wage of $1500/hour.

#4

I'm sure his fellow grinders who also played this lucrative play but did not see the RF, are today enjoying every one of those fifteen hundred bucks per hour earned directly from the Aria.

We've seen it right here a hundred times: the vast majority of AP's who go after these things are either seriously under-bankrolled, they have to pool together their funds just to sweat out the play, or they have to endure some tourist catching the big one after just 5 minutes at a machine.

Reality: It's not what you think.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "seedub49" <seedub49@...> wrote:

If that is true, then possibly the reason you are incredulous of those who claim to make a living grinding out advantage video poker is your lack of understanding of the fundamental concepts necessary to accomplish that.

I would think a large percentage of people who have never even played video poker would have an intuitive grasp that bet size would affect bankroll requirements (even if they have no familiarity of concepts such as variance and advantage).

#5

I'm not sure that I'd classify Huck Seed as a vp grinder. Huck is a well known professional poker player, who has won the WSOP title (before it became a the large event today), and a million dollars total on 2 recent televised events. I'm sure he also makes substantial amounts playing in cash games. He may have just played the vp progressive at the Aria on a short time lark. The Aria reportedly hosts the highest stakes poker game in Las Vegas.

Poker players are known to make high stakes bets, sometime when the odds are not favorable. Many are known to make high stake wagers on craps, of all things.

Recently 2 well known poker pros, Tom Dwan and Phil Ivey, made a million dollar wager on whether Ivey could go a year without eating meat. Apparently Ivey didn't go long and Dwan let him out of the bet for $300,000. Incidentally Huck Seed is known for making all kinds of weird bets where the opponent doesn't realize that Huck has a big edge.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:

I'm sure his fellow grinders who also played this lucrative play but did not see the RF, are today enjoying every one of those fifteen hundred bucks per hour earned directly from the Aria.

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#6

Huckleberry (He hates to be called Huck) is a free spirit type of person. In other words he is slightly on the weird side. Look at the way he dresses in those televised events. I was watching the ESPN coverage of this years WSOP main event. It was either Hellmuth or Esfandiari who commented that they ran into Huck at the airport in Monaco. Huck was carrying his clothes in two garbage bags.

#7

Poker players are known to make high stakes bets, sometime when the odds are not favorable. Many are known to make high stake wagers on craps, of all things.

haha a diplomatic way of saying "compulsive gambler". But they are high class addicts, and most are "functional" unlike Stu Unger. I never understood the thrill of these bets for a high stakes pro, look what they play tourneys and cash games for. That doesn't give them enough buzz?! I never had much respect for those guys, and they are too numerous to mention. Sign of our sick society that the media glamourizes their "fun".I'd rather idolize someone like Jen Harmon, who had the courage to fight a deadly disease and helps defenseless animals
with her charity tourneys.

#8

Well I know there has been all talk about about the M's machines and the above topic, but the big question is still unanswered (and unasked, I believe, until now):

Were Frank and/or Bob in on Huck's action, or were they playing it themselves (presuming there was more than one machine available) and just got unlucky???

Inquiring minds want to know, since the progressive was apparently positive (Frank's specialty), and therefore theoretically a good play (Bob's specialty, considering the stakes)...

#9

No I did not play it. And none of my partners played it either. Well outside our BR requirement for normal fair.

~FK

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, lasvegaspilgrim@... wrote:

Well I know there has been all talk about about the M's machines and the above topic, but the big question is still unanswered (and unasked, I believe, until now):

Were Frank and/or Bob in on Huck's action, or were they playing it themselves (presuming there was more than one machine available) and just got unlucky???

Inquiring minds want to know, since the progressive was apparently positive (Frank's specialty), and therefore theoretically a good play (Bob's specialty, considering the stakes)...