Does anyone notice this:
While holding three cards to the royal the redraw delivers one of the
cards needed but not the other. This seems to happen quite often.
Seems similar to slots almost giving you the symbol you need. Machines
aren't fixed in vegas....right!
TBFlorida
p.s. also, stay away fron the victorian room at barbary coast...the
worst food in vegas...serving box mashed potatoes...can you believe
it? I've had better mashed at KFC!
Playing 10-plays really shows you that this situation occurs about 1
time in 20, actually a little less.
At 10:10 AM 5/27/2006, you wrote:
Does anyone notice this:
While holding three cards to the royal the redraw delivers one of the
cards needed but not the other. This seems to happen quite often.
Seems similar to slots almost giving you the symbol you need. Machines
aren't fixed in vegas....right!TBFlorida
p.s. also, stay away fron the victorian room at barbary coast...the
worst food in vegas...serving box mashed potatoes...can you believe
it? I've had better mashed at KFC!
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Let's see if we can figure out how likely this is. If I'm wrong I hope
one of the other recreational probability theorists will correct me.
You can draw one more to the royal by flopping one of the cards you
need first AND drawing a blank on the second, OR flopping a blank
first AND getting one of the needed cards second. The probability of
the first event is
(2/47)*(45/46) = (90/2162)
The probability of the second is
(45/47)*(2/46) = (90/2162)
and adding them together the probability of getting exactly one more
is (180/2162)=8.33%, or odds of 11:1 against. That doesn't seem too
unlikely to me.
By the same reasoning the probability of getting two blanks is
(45/47)*(44/46)=91.58% and the probability of making your royal is
(2/47)*(1/46)=0.09%. As a sanity check add all those together and they
add up to 100%.
I may not be counting this right, but I get about a 1 in 30 chance of
being dealt 3 to a royal. If you're seeing three to a royal dealt
about 20 times an hour you'd expect to get one more once or twice an
hour on the draw.
Mike
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lizurdlips" <lizurdlips@...> wrote:
Does anyone notice this:
While holding three cards to the royal the redraw delivers one of the
cards needed but not the other. This seems to happen quite often.
Maybe I was imagining things, but I seem to get one card - and not the
other - a lot more than you have mathematically figured. Just a heads
up...maybe we should start keeping track of this situation. Seems
fishy to me.
Thanks,
TB
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Peck" <mpeck1@...> wrote:
I may not be counting this right, but I get about a 1 in 30 chance of
being dealt 3 to a royal. If you're seeing three to a royal dealt
about 20 times an hour you'd expect to get one more once or twice an
hour on the draw.Mike
Does anyone notice this:
While holding three cards to the royal the redraw delivers one of the
cards needed but not the other. This seems to happen quite often.
Seems similar to slots almost giving you the symbol you need.
Machines
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lizurdlips" <lizurdlips@...> wrote:
aren't fixed in vegas....right!
TBFlorida
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And you guys ridiculed me about my alien theory. Ha! This proves
it. It's a clear case of alien possession. Damn you Woody, Pee Wee,
and Dennis!
VP and Me
"In the great casino of life, DNA is the slot machine."
--VP Pappy
And you guys ridiculed me about my alien theory. Ha! This proves
it. It's a clear case of alien possession. Damn you Woody, Pee Wee,
and Dennis!VP and Me
"In the great casino of life, DNA is the slot machine."
--VP Pappy
Couple of years ago(BVP) (B4 VP, that is), I was playing a lot of
slots in Iowa Quad cities. One 25c machine (Titanic) has 3 "parts" of
ship. The bonus was if they lined up. I was playing 2 on a 3 coin
machine. My philosophy was that I hit more that way. I've another
story to back that up, but won't go into at this time. I got the
first 2 pieces of the ship in line with the 3rd one line above. I
thought, yep, here's another teaser to keep me going...happens all the
time. Be darned if next pull, they all 3 lined up...5000 coin
payoff. I've always wondered if i was "supposed" to hit the round
before, but the last reel didn't click where it was supposed to. I
realize this isn't VP, but if anyone has an opinion, I'd like to hear
it. It sure goes against the grain of the ole "random deal or spin"
theory.
I have noticed that happening but not just in vegas. I honestly don't
think its fixed. Just bad luck.
Does anyone notice this:
While holding three cards to the royal the redraw delivers one of the
cards needed but not the other. This seems to happen quite often.
Seems similar to slots almost giving you the symbol you need.
Machines
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lizurdlips" <lizurdlips@...> wrote:
aren't fixed in vegas....right!
TBFlorida
p.s. also, stay away fron the victorian room at barbary coast...the
worst food in vegas...serving box mashed potatoes...can you believe
it? I've had better mashed at KFC!
You may be right in your calcs - not sure - but I can tell you - I
was DEALT FOUR to a royal 22 times in one hour and never got a
royal. It was happening so frequently I decided to keep count. I
normally get four to a royal and lot of times get nothing - but this
particular time was real strange. Enought that players on either
side of me were commenting on it. BTW - it happen at LVH
>
> Does anyone notice this:
>
> While holding three cards to the royal the redraw delivers one
of the
> cards needed but not the other. This seems to happen quite often.
Let's see if we can figure out how likely this is. If I'm wrong I
hope
one of the other recreational probability theorists will correct
me.
You can draw one more to the royal by flopping one of the cards you
need first AND drawing a blank on the second, OR flopping a blank
first AND getting one of the needed cards second. The probability
of
the first event is
(2/47)*(45/46) = (90/2162)
The probability of the second is
(45/47)*(2/46) = (90/2162)
and adding them together the probability of getting exactly one
more
is (180/2162)=8.33%, or odds of 11:1 against. That doesn't seem too
unlikely to me.By the same reasoning the probability of getting two blanks is
(45/47)*(44/46)=91.58% and the probability of making your royal is
(2/47)*(1/46)=0.09%. As a sanity check add all those together and
they
add up to 100%.
I may not be counting this right, but I get about a 1 in 30 chance
of
being dealt 3 to a royal. If you're seeing three to a royal dealt
about 20 times an hour you'd expect to get one more once or twice
an
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Peck" <mpeck1@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lizurdlips" <lizurdlips@> wrote:
hour on the draw.Mike
Whiffing on 22 consecutive one card draws to try and complete a royal
is not particularly unusual. The liklihood of that happening is in the
vicinity of 62%. I know people who have been in the 200-300
consecutive whiff range (I'm one of them).
On the other hand, being dealt four to a royal 22 times in one hour,
is, indeed, extremely unusual.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "missdeuces" <missdeuces@...> wrote:
You may be right in your calcs - not sure - but I can tell you - I
was DEALT FOUR to a royal 22 times in one hour and never got a
royal. It was happening so frequently I decided to keep count. I
normally get four to a royal and lot of times get nothing - but this
particular time was real strange.
> was DEALT FOUR to a royal 22 times in one hour and never got a
> royal. It was happening so frequently I decided to keep count.
I
> normally get four to a royal and lot of times get nothing - but
this
> particular time was real strange.
Whiffing on 22 consecutive one card draws to try and complete a
royal
is not particularly unusual. The liklihood of that happening is
in the
vicinity of 62%. I know people who have been in the 200-300
consecutive whiff range (I'm one of them).On the other hand, being dealt four to a royal 22 times in one
hour,
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "neilemb" <nembree@...> wrote:
is, indeed, extremely unusual.
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That's nothing. I've probably played millions of hands of Pick'Em
Poker over the years and have never had "four to a royal" dealt to
me. What are the odds of that?
Terrence "VP Pappy" Murphy
'A dishonest gambler can aquire almost anything except character."
--VP Pappy