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Holding the 8,9s playing NSUD in Win Poker?

One significant omission in VPSMs NSUD strategy is that it does not show a
one deuce 3RF with an ace as playable with 2 penalty cards (Must be one
flush and one straight penalty). It is better than keeping stiff 2 (This
error can cost as much as 0.12 coins per 5 coin bet). (One exception here
is that with AT8s + 2 + K it is better to hold 108s + 2.) Awhile back,
Randi (a friend of Ednar's) saw me misplay this hand. I pulled out the VPSM
chart showing it was not there. I later checked it on Winpoker and of
course Randi was right. As bjaygold correctly indicates, there are a number
of other small exceptions not really worth worrying about.

[Original Message]
From: <bjaygold@aol.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 1/10/2004 9:50:41 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Holding the 8,9s playing NSUD in Win Poker?

In NSUDs SF2s, 67s - 9Ts, are always slightly better than a redraw when

there

are no flush or straight penalties. They are also sometimes playable with

the

most distant straight penalty, and occasionally are playable with a
second-most-distant straight penalty.

Ignoring these minor plays will not cost you much. Probably less than

.001%.

When there is a "disagreement" between WinPoker and a generated strategy,
WinPoker is always correct. Generated strategies are almost never

"perfect." A

perfect strategy for NSUDs would have well over a hundred lines, as there

are

several types of extremely close hands. Covering all the penalty card

situations

···

is very complex, yet adds very little to the overall return.

Brian

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In a message dated 1/10/2004 7:38:02 AM Pacific Standard Time,
tismurph@hotmail.com writes:
   I still don't get it? Win Poker still tells me to hold the 8,9s
while playing NSUD. I ran the strategy in VPSM (basic and advanced)&
Frugal Video Poker. There is no mention of doing this in either one.
   I personally never hold these cards when I play the game here in
Detroit. So who's right?

   TM & VP

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