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hit the wrong button? ask for an attendant

#1

hi there,

saw a weird thing the other day that i wanted to pass along ... at a downtown casino (and no, i won't say which one), a woman failed to hit "hold" for a the second card of a pair on a DDB machine ... she quit playing, asked for an attendant and, much to my surprise, got paid off after making the mistake ... i talked to a pro that lurks this list and he said that although he's never done it, he has seen one other person do it in a casino.

what's funny is i've never heard, seen or read about this before, so i thought i'd pass it along. (among other things, i'm the las vegas poker examiner ... i wrote up the situation, along with a blurry screen shot of the VP machine diagnostic here http://is.gd/v0Yj ... feel free to leave a comment on the site or here on the group list -- i'm VERY curious about all this.)

thanks,
m.

p.s. i've said it before, i'll say it again -- the admins for vpFREE do a spectacular job. thanks.

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#2

This happened to me playing at Harrah's Ak-Chin on a $5 DB. It just so happened that a supervisor was still in the area from a previous hand pay, and saw my trip Aces turn into trip Aces after the deal. She actually witnessed the fifth button not holding. She immediately called for a tech to open the machine and ran a test. Ten minutes later she paid me $4k. Didn't work out that way at Gila River when Four threes dealt turned into trip threes on the draw. Wouldn't pay up even after replacing a bad button.

CK

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@...> wrote:

hi there,

saw a weird thing the other day that i wanted to pass along ... at a downtown casino (and no, i won't say which one), a woman failed to hit "hold" for a the second card of a pair on a DDB machine ... she quit playing, asked for an attendant and, much to my surprise, got paid off after making the mistake ...

#3

I had it happen to me at South Point, November 2007. I play pretty fast and this particular machine had a sticky button. It didn't hold the second card of a pair and the other two popped up. I was playing $1 Bonus Deluxe, I wasn't about to let $400 go. I stopped playing and hit the service button. When they came, I told them what happened -- they checked the cards and paid me. That's the only time in five years of playing that it's happened to me, thank goodness. It was fairly time consuming.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@...> wrote:

hi there,

saw a weird thing the other day that i wanted to pass along ... at a downtown casino (and no, i won't say which one), a woman failed to hit "hold" for a the second card of a pair on a DDB machine ... she quit playing, asked for an attendant and, much to my surprise, got paid off after making the mistake ... i talked to a pro that lurks this list and he said that although he's never done it, he has seen one other person do it in a casino.

what's funny is i've never heard, seen or read about this before, so i thought i'd pass it along. (among other things, i'm the las vegas poker examiner ... i wrote up the situation, along with a blurry screen shot of the VP machine diagnostic here http://is.gd/v0Yj ... feel free to leave a comment on the site or here on the group list -- i'm VERY curious about all this.)

thanks,
m.

p.s. i've said it before, i'll say it again -- the admins for vpFREE do a spectacular job. thanks.

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#4

I have lost hands on several occasions at mulitple casino's and wonder if someone can tell me if it is common? Fortunately they were never large payoffs like this. It seems to happen when I hit two card hold buttons at the same time. It immediately shoots me back to the menm screen where you choose the game and denomination. When hit return to game, that hand is over so I loose the $5 or $25 I had bet on that hand.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@...> wrote:

I had it happen to me at South Point, November 2007. I play pretty fast and this particular machine had a sticky button. It didn't hold the second card of a pair and the other two popped up. I was playing $1 Bonus Deluxe, I wasn't about to let $400 go. I stopped playing and hit the service button. When they came, I told them what happened -- they checked the cards and paid me. That's the only time in five years of playing that it's happened to me, thank goodness. It was fairly time consuming.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@> wrote:
>
> hi there,
>
> saw a weird thing the other day that i wanted to pass along ... at a downtown casino (and no, i won't say which one), a woman failed to hit "hold" for a the second card of a pair on a DDB machine ... she quit playing, asked for an attendant and, much to my surprise, got paid off after making the mistake ... i talked to a pro that lurks this list and he said that although he's never done it, he has seen one other person do it in a casino.
>
> what's funny is i've never heard, seen or read about this before, so i thought i'd pass it along. (among other things, i'm the las vegas poker examiner ... i wrote up the situation, along with a blurry screen shot of the VP machine diagnostic here http://is.gd/v0Yj ... feel free to leave a comment on the site or here on the group list -- i'm VERY curious about all this.)
>
> thanks,
> m.
>
> p.s. i've said it before, i'll say it again -- the admins for vpFREE do a spectacular job. thanks.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#5

As the machines get older, you see more and more essentially defective machines. For some reason the casinos are very slow to fix the problems. Maybe waiting for an infrastructure bailout from the feds.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "SluToo" <slutoo@...> wrote:

I have lost hands on several occasions at mulitple casino's and wonder if someone can tell me if it is common?

#6

I've also noticed what NOTI stated to be true.

I would caution, however, that commenting too often about an
old and sometimes defective machine (i.e, "sticky" buttons) can
hasten it's permanent demise. Especially if the game is FPDW or
FPKBJW! Proceed with complaints at your own peril.

~Babe~

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In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" wrote:

As the machines get older, you see more and more essentially
defective machines. For some reason the casinos are very slow to
fix the problems. Maybe waiting for an infrastructure bailout
from the feds.

#7

Excellent point. The casinos have the players over a barrel. If they get too many complaints about a machine, instead of fixing the machine that try to figure out why people keeping trying to play a defective machine. If a player requests too many hand rollbacks, instead of fixing the machine, they take action against the player (no pay, reduced offers, no offers, no mail, 86 ...). I get a kick out of when people complain about machines being set at slow speed, they are generally set at slow speed because they are lose, if you complain they note in your file that you like to play lose machines, and complain about slow play speeds.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...> wrote:

I've also noticed what NOTI stated to be true.

I would caution, however, that commenting too often about an
old and sometimes defective machine (i.e, "sticky" buttons) can
hasten it's permanent demise. Especially if the game is FPDW or
FPKBJW! Proceed with complaints at your own peril.

~Babe~

In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" wrote:

As the machines get older, you see more and more essentially
defective machines. For some reason the casinos are very slow to
fix the problems. Maybe waiting for an infrastructure bailout
from the feds.