Last night on the local news in Chicago, the newscasters revealed an alleged plot to hijack foreign planes headed for Los Angeles and crash them into Las Vegas. What's strange is the next commercial was for Harrahs casinos. Has anyone else heard this tidbit or is this a ploy by Harrahs, Horseshoe and Empress to keep us folks living in the cornfields to play our VP games locally? the mermaid
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Well not exactly.. there was some speculation, based on chatter that planes
headed for Las Angeles would be targeted and Air France was mentioned.
Because of the pre-planned route of the planes, inability to deviate off
planned routes without arousing suspicion etc it was SUGGESTED that Las
Vegas would be a potential target. There was and is no evidence that Las
Vegas is a hard target at this time. It is speculation by some members of
the media but is being picked up by some media sources as true.
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From: mermaid [mailto:mjbat…@…com]
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 8:53 AM
To: vpfree
Subject: [vpFREE] hijacked planes to Las Vegas?
Last night on the local news in Chicago, the newscasters revealed an alleged
plot to hijack foreign planes headed for Los Angeles and crash them into Las
Vegas. What's strange is the next commercial was for Harrahs casinos. Has
anyone else heard this tidbit or is this a ploy by Harrahs, Horseshoe and
Empress to keep us folks living in the cornfields to play our VP games
locally? the mermaid
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Its probably the goverment spreading these rumors to keep us all afraid. Then we won't complain when they want to spend more money in Iraq and on other war's.
There have been about 10 "orange alert's" since September 11, 2001, and no more attack's.
Ned C.
The Wild Joker
mermaid <mjbatham@yahoo.com> wrote:
Last night on the local news in Chicago, the newscasters revealed an alleged plot to hijack foreign planes headed for Los Angeles and crash them into Las Vegas. What's strange is the next commercial was for Harrahs casinos. Has anyone else heard this tidbit or is this a ploy by Harrahs, Horseshoe and Empress to keep us folks living in the cornfields to play our VP games locally? the mermaid
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I see that the conspiracy theorists have emerged.
PeteC
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Its probably the goverment spreading these rumors to keep us all afraid. Then we won't complain when they want to spend more money in Iraq and on other war's.
There have been about 10 "orange alert's" since September 11, 2001, and no more attack's.
Ned C.
The Wild Joker
mermaid <mjbatham@yahoo.com> wrote:
Last night on the local news in Chicago, the newscasters revealed an alleged plot to hijack foreign planes headed for Los Angeles and crash them into Las Vegas. What's strange is the next commercial was for Harrahs casinos. Has anyone else heard this tidbit or is this a ploy by Harrahs, Horseshoe and Empress to keep us folks living in the cornfields to play our VP games locally? the mermaid
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hmmmmmm!
But, then, again, maybe the very fact that we are becoming more
alert and cautious, as a result of the "orange alerts", is why there
have been no (OK, maybe fewer) attacks.
.....BL
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, The Wild Joker <jokerswild1203@y...>
wrote:
Its probably the goverment spreading these rumors to keep us
all afraid. Then we won't complain when they want to spend more
money in Iraq and on other war's.
There have been about 10 "orange alert's" since September 11,
2001, and no more attack's.
Ned C.
The Wild Joker
mermaid <mjbatham@y...> wrote:
Last night on the local news in Chicago, the newscasters revealed
an alleged plot to hijack foreign planes headed for Los Angeles and
crash them into Las Vegas. What's strange is the next commercial was
for Harrahs casinos. Has anyone else heard this tidbit or is this a
ploy by Harrahs, Horseshoe and Empress to keep us folks living in
the cornfields to play our VP games locally? the mermaid
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Here's how paranoid I am. I'll be checking into the NYNY casino on Dec 30th
and I'm going to ask for a low floor - just in case. In my mind the 3 top
targets would most likely be:
#1 NYNY - they hate NY and the freedom it stands for
#2 MGM Grand - its big , green, and close to the airport
#3 Luxor - long considered an abomination to the Arab world.
regards...Tom
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From: "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 3:40 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: hijacked planes to Las Vegas?
hmmmmmm!
But, then, again, maybe the very fact that we are becoming more
alert and cautious, as a result of the "orange alerts", is why there
have been no (OK, maybe fewer) attacks......BL
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, The Wild Joker <jokerswild1203@y...>
wrote:
> Its probably the goverment spreading these rumors to keep us
all afraid. Then we won't complain when they want to spend more
money in Iraq and on other war's.
> There have been about 10 "orange alert's" since September 11,
2001, and no more attack's.
>
> Ned C.
>
> The Wild Joker
>
> mermaid <mjbatham@y...> wrote:
> Last night on the local news in Chicago, the newscasters revealed
an alleged plot to hijack foreign planes headed for Los Angeles and
crash them into Las Vegas. What's strange is the next commercial was
for Harrahs casinos. Has anyone else heard this tidbit or is this a
ploy by Harrahs, Horseshoe and Empress to keep us folks living in
the cornfields to play our VP games locally? the mermaid
>
>
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Hmmm... Wasn't Harrah's East Chicago voted casino least likely to be impaled by commercial jet in Casino Player Magazine?
At 07:52 AM 12/27/2003, you wrote:
Last night on the local news in Chicago, the newscasters revealed an alleged plot to hijack foreign planes headed for Los Angeles and crash them into Las Vegas. What's strange is the next commercial was for Harrahs casinos. Has anyone else heard this tidbit or is this a ploy by Harrahs, Horseshoe and Empress to keep us folks living in the cornfields to play our VP games locally? the mermaid
For what's its worth, I'll throw in my two cents. If you are concerned
about a plane "landing" at a Las Vegas venue, other than McCarran, you would
be wise to avoid any STRIP or other high profile hotel. IMHO, some of the
LEAST likely candidates for attack would be:
Sams Town, Boulder Station, Green Valley Ranch, Sunset, both Fiesta
locations, Texas Station, Suncoast, Terribles, Key Largo, Tuscany and Monte
Lago. Gold Coast and Orleans are probably safe bets but I would avoid the
Palms, Rio and Las Vegas Hilton if you are really concerned about an
attack. Downtown is safer than any strip location and the only hotels on the
strip that I would consider are Casino Royale, Barbary Coast and the
Boardwalk. Unfortunately, the safest place in town is probably the Wild Wild
West (but they do have FPDW and a nice $1.99 burger)! IMHO based on
everything that I know , LAS VEGAS is a very real target for terrorist
groups at this time. Las Vegas & Los Angeles are in the same category as New
York,Washington D.C. and other strategic sites such as nuclear power plants
at this point in time. On the other hand, I am not trying to alarm anyone
unduly. I will be in Las Vegas next month (January 2004). I am taking the
extra precaution of not staying at any of the venues which I consider the
most likely targets. I want to emphasize that this is solely my personal
opinion based on non-classified information and is not meant to be the
official position of my present employer or any government agency. It is my
understanding (from published reports) that the ORANGE threat level will
remain in effect throughout January and that New Years will definitely
arrive with an elevated threat level in place. I urge anyone who is to be in
Las Vegas to carry a cell phone with them at all times (friends and
relatives at home may receive information from TV which they can pass on to
you at any time & in case of a power outage or other emergency a cell phone
can be a life saver). I also think Tom is very wise to request a floor as
close to the ground as possible, ESPECIALLY if you are staying at a high
rise strip hotel. Keep in mind that more people will die of heart attacks
unrelated to a terrorist attack on the same day the next attack takes place
in this country. Over 50,000 will die in unrelated auto accidents in the
U.S. next year. Both are a much more realistic and serious threat to your
health and welfare while visiting Las Vegas.
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From: "tomflush" <tomflush@nyc.rr.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: hijacked planes to Las Vegas?
Here's how paranoid I am. I'll be checking into the NYNY casino on Dec
30th
and I'm going to ask for a low floor - just in case. In my mind the 3 top
targets would most likely be:
#1 NYNY - they hate NY and the freedom it stands for
#2 MGM Grand - its big , green, and close to the airport
#3 Luxor - long considered an abomination to the Arab world.regards...Tom
Oh, I forgot. It might not be such a bad idea, to put off visiting the
Hoover Dam for a while.
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From: "Video Poker Vegas" <vpvegas@charter.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: hijacked planes to Las Vegas?
For what's its worth, I'll throw in my two cents. If you are concerned
about a plane "landing" at a Las Vegas venue, other than McCarran, you
would
The Las Vegas Reveiw Journal reported on Friday that real target of
the Air France flights was not Las Vegas but LA. A senior U.S
counter terrorism official told the LA Times that LA was the real
target not Las Vegas.
The Washington Post reported that Las Vegas might have been a target
but that is pure speculation according to Nevada State Government
officials. The State of Nevada was not informed of any possible
attack on Las Vegas by the Homeland Security office. It is standard
procedure for the Governor of Nevada to be notified by the Feds if
there is a possible attack on the state. The governor was never
notified of a possible attack.
You can read more about it at this website:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Dec-26-Fri-
2003/news/22877585.html
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Video Poker Vegas" <vpvegas@c...>
wrote:
Oh, I forgot. It might not be such a bad idea, to put off visiting
the
Hoover Dam for a while.
From: "Video Poker Vegas" <vpvegas@c...>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: hijacked planes to Las Vegas?> For what's its worth, I'll throw in my two cents. If you are
concerned
> about a plane "landing" at a Las Vegas venue, other than
McCarran, you
----- Original Message -----
would
The link doesn't work.
Here is the full story:
TERROR THREAT: Officials: LV not a target
Sheriff says plot report false; Guinn aide says air sensors not
linked to orange alert
By LISA KIM BACH
REVIEW-JOURNAL
A Washington Post report that put Las Vegas in the cross hairs of
terrorists who might have planned to hijack recently canceled Air
France flights was flatly contradicted by state and local homeland
security leaders Thursday.
"It's absolutely false," Clark County Sheriff Bill Young said
Thursday. Young said he spoke with FBI sources Wednesday. "We were
not being targeted. I was told they were targeting Los Angeles."
Jerry Bussell, Gov. Kenny Guinn's adviser on homeland security,
concurred.
"I can substantiate that," Bussell said of Young's comment. "The
Washington Post is getting information that I can't substantiate."
Federal Homeland Security workers nonetheless are installing outdoor
air sensors around Las Vegas that can detect biological pathogens.
Bussell said Thursday that he requested the sensors months ago, and
that the Post incorrectly reported that their installation is a
response to the current orange-alert status in effect across the
nation.
In today's edition of the Post, unnamed U.S. officials speculated
that terrorists might have intended to hijack an Air France flight
from Paris to Los Angeles and crash it in Las Vegas.
The Air France flights in question cross the Hudson Bay and eastern
Canada before entering airspace over Minnesota, then take a sharp
turn southwest toward Southern California.
"The only big city near this route is Las Vegas, which they would
consider a nice attractive target," a government official told the
Post.
The officials told the Post that the al-Qaida network has long
considered Las Vegas one of its top targets for a terrorist strike
because it sees the city as a bastion of Western lewdness and excess.
However, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday that Los Angeles was
the intended target of the Air France flight.
"There was little doubt in anybody's mind that L.A. was the target of
this one," a senior U.S. counterterrorism official told the
Times. "We believed they were going to take the aircraft over and
that they were going to fly it into something in L.A."
Several national media outlets, including the Post, the Times and
MSNBC, have reported in recent days that the intelligence that led to
the government's Dec. 21 imposition of the high terror alert across
the nation included references to Las Vegas as a possible target.
If that were the case, Bussell said Thursday, Nevada officials would
have been alerted immediately. Bussell said Guinn spoke with federal
Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge on Wednesday afternoon and received
assurances that he would be informed without delay of any threats
against the state.
"Ridge told the governor he would call immediately if there was
anything for him to be concerned about," Bussell said. "We're telling
everyone that if the safety of citizens is concerned, we're going to
tell you."
Other local and state officials have said they have no knowledge of
imminent threats against Las Vegas. Ridge specifically told Guinn on
Wednesday that Las Vegas was not a target, Guinn spokesman Greg
Bortolin said Thursday.
Homeland security in Las Vegas will be bolstered by outdoor sensors,
Bussell said. Bussell said he began lobbying for them when other
cities received them and Las Vegas did not.
"These are monitoring devices, not warning devices," said Bussell,
who did not have information on how many sensors were being installed
in Las Vegas or where they would be placed. "It's a precautionary
measure."
Bussell said he was informed Wednesday that Las Vegas would receive
the equipment.
Thirty-one cities across the nation, including several in California,
have had several hundred sensors placed since March, when the U.S.
invasion of Iraq prompted an earlier orange alert, the Post reported.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "hansjurgent" <hansjurgent16@h...>
wrote:
The Las Vegas Reveiw Journal reported on Friday that real target of
the Air France flights was not Las Vegas but LA. A senior U.S
counter terrorism official told the LA Times that LA was the real
target not Las Vegas.The Washington Post reported that Las Vegas might have been a
target
but that is pure speculation according to Nevada State Government
officials. The State of Nevada was not informed of any possible
attack on Las Vegas by the Homeland Security office. It is
standard
procedure for the Governor of Nevada to be notified by the Feds if
there is a possible attack on the state. The governor was never
notified of a possible attack.You can read more about it at this website:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Dec-26-Fri-
2003/news/22877585.html
If I were a terrorist, I'd look for a day when my "target audience"
was relaxed, distracted and pre-occupied. Super Bowl Sunday comes to
mind LONG Before New Year's(Eve) or any other holiday.
But maybe that's just me?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@n...> wrote:
Here's how paranoid I am. I'll be checking into the NYNY casino on
Dec 30th and I'm going to ask for a low floor - just in case. In my
mind the 3 top targets would most likely be:
#1 NYNY - they hate NY and the freedom it stands for
#2 MGM Grand - its big , green, and close to the airport
#3 Luxor - long considered an abomination to the Arab world.
Keep in mind that the economy of the state of Nevada is PRIMARILY dependant
on VISITORS and GAMING in the Las Vegas area. Gaming interests have more
influence on Nevada politicians than the United States government. It is
not in the best interest of the State to give any credence to reports that
Las Vegas is considered a primary target for terrorists. I can't conceive
of a reason why the federal government would want to falsely identify Las
Vegas as a target. There are very good reasons for the state of Nevada and
the gaming interests within the state to discredit and or downplay the
intelligence as it relates to Las Vegas.
----- Original Message -----
From: "hansjurgent" <hansjurgent16@hotmail.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:00 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: hijacked planes to Las Vegas?
The Las Vegas Reveiw Journal reported on Friday that real target of
the Air France flights was not Las Vegas but LA. A senior U.S
counter terrorism official told the LA Times that LA was the real
target not Las Vegas.The Washington Post reported that Las Vegas might have been a target
but that is pure speculation according to Nevada State Government
officials. The State of Nevada was not informed of any possible
attack on Las Vegas by the Homeland Security office. It is standard
procedure for the Governor of Nevada to be notified by the Feds if
there is a possible attack on the state. The governor was never
notified of a possible attack.You can read more about it at this website:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Dec-26-Fri-
2003/news/22877585.html--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Video Poker Vegas" <vpvegas@c...>
wrote:
> Oh, I forgot. It might not be such a bad idea, to put off visiting
the
> Hoover Dam for a while.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Video Poker Vegas" <vpvegas@c...>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: hijacked planes to Las Vegas?
>
>
> > For what's its worth, I'll throw in my two cents. If you are
concerned
> > about a plane "landing" at a Las Vegas venue, other than
McCarran, you
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